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Us Police Use Public Humiliation To Fight Prostitution

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Even though the source is RT / Russia Today, it seems that the US (along with much of the west) is heading in a misandric (for lack of a better term) direction with regards to laws banning prositiuation (probably due to the falling birth rate in much of the West as well as an increasing number of men pragmatically finding it more cost effective to punt instead of pursuing marriage / relationships in this current global economy).

"Hiring a prostitute is no longer an anonymous act: men who pay for sex now face public humiliation as a form of punishment. Throughout the US, authorities are publicly revealing johns' identities by plastering their names and faces all over town.

A National Institute of Justice study involving interviews and surveys of police officers at 200 departments found that most believed this form of embarrassment to be the most effective way to reduce prostitution.

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http://rt.com/usa/ne...ents-shame-426/

A hypothetical question - After being 'humilated' and shamed, and possibly financially ruined by divorce/family courts for those punters that are married, why would we now seek to learn the error of our ways and be productive members of the same society that goes out of their way to treat us like shit?

It would be interesting to hear from others here on what is going on in the US and its potential to spread in other countries.

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But isn't there something in the (so called) US Constitution about "cruel and unnatural punishment"?

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But isn't there something in the (so called) US Constitution about "cruel and unnatural punishment"?

When you are talking about a nation that doesn't regard hanging/gassing / executing by lethal injection prisoners who have already served decades in prison and may have been convicted of crimes committed as minors, mentally ill or even intellectually disabled as a "cruel and unusual punishment" it will regard nothing as such despite what it may like to claim!

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A testament to the dangers of allowing dishonest politicians to become prosecutors.

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The country doesnt help itself by having laws applicable in one state, but not in another.

When they also operate the world's most prolific porn industry, surely they must realise that a small proportion of 138 million American males will want to pay for sex with women that look like those in the films?

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It's bizarre isn't it? They're as mad as the anti-abortionists and the god hates fags brigade. Neo-con christian fundamentalism in action. I don't much care for it.

If you're American and reading this: please not Romney.

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The country doesnt help itself by having laws applicable in one state, but not in another.

When they also operate the world's most prolific porn industry, surely they must realise that a small proportion of 138 million American males will want to pay for sex with women that look like those in the films?

While I entirely agree with your second point, your first is a wee bitty odd! England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Isle of Man, Jersey and also Guernsey all have differences in applicable law - even, maybe, Wales too! Doesnt do much harm that I can see.

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The country doesnt help itself by having laws applicable in one state, but not in another.

The clue is in the full name "The United States of America". It is no more one country than the European Union is. Each state makes, and enforces, its own laws as it feel fit (or to satisfy the current fashion).

Yes there are a lots of fundamentalist bigots there, but there are here too. We are better able to ignore therm due to the quality of our press.

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Don't forget we have name and shame here. Get caught picking up a street walker being the first to get done under the coercion rules and end up in court. You can be certain that your local newspaper will carry the story even if you were playing well away from home.

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Don't forget we have name and shame here. Get caught picking up a street walker being the first to get done under the coercion rules and end up in court. You can be certain that your local newspaper will carry the story even if you were playing well away from home.

Indeed, many magistrates courts have specific hearing days for kerb-crawlers and the CPS notify the local media with an invite to attend.

http://www.cps.gov.u...tion_crackdown/

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I am in US at the moment, and there is the case of the Zumba dance instructor who was caught providing extra services to men at her studio. The police want to name all the clients. It went to court and yes they can. They are going to name 150 clients over the next few weeks as they get charged.

She though was odd, in that she kept their names, and also video taped the sessions.

I not sure why the clients were giving their real names or using traceable phones. In a country where buying and selling is illegal I would take extra precautions. Some of this though could stem from verification procedures used by the escort. Making sure the client isn't police. One way is to ask for name and work address and then verify the client.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-zumba-prostitution-names-addresses-20121017,0,2391177.story

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Further to that, the US has named and shamed prostitutes and clients for a long time. Not consistent across the states, as different police enforce the laws differently.

There though is a trend now to humiliate the clients, and consider the sexworker a victim.

I will have a blog entry on my private site about this in a few days time, probably after I have escaped the US.

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While I entirely agree with your second point, your first is a wee bitty odd! England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Isle of Man, Jersey and also Guernsey all have differences in applicable law - even, maybe, Wales too! Doesnt do much harm that I can see.

Won't be much mainstream porn made in California soon. I expect all the studios will leave. Mandatory Condom use is being proposed.

Also have you heard of Calafornia proposition 35 which increases sentences for traffickers. More so for sex trafficking than Labour trafficking, but has serious repercussions for sex workers who could get caught up in the letter of the law and go away on a mandatory 15 year sentence.

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When you are talking about a nation that doesn't regard hanging/gassing / executing by lethal injection prisoners who have already served decades in prison and may have been convicted of crimes committed as minors, mentally ill or even intellectually disabled as a "cruel and unusual punishment" it will regard nothing as such despite what it may like to claim!

TROLL?Our system of lethal injection is very humane, no worse than going to sleep. What troubles me, is that euthanasia is still not allowed, which IMO is "Cruel and Unusual"BTW, Sorry to pee on your parade, but the few remaining people to be gassed or hanged was last century. We have a very robust and seldom changing penal system, not like here where it changes as the wind blows. Don't get me started on how your treat your armed forces...

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I am in US at the moment, and there is the case of the Zumba dance instructor who was caught providing extra services to men at her studio. The police want to name all the clients. It went to court and yes they can. They are going to name 150 clients over the next few weeks as they get charged.

She though was odd, in that she kept their names, and also video taped the sessions.

I not sure why the clients were giving their real names or using traceable phones. In a country where buying and selling is illegal I would take extra precautions. Some of this though could stem from verification procedures used by the escort. Making sure the client isn't police. One way is to ask for name and work address and then verify the client.

http://www.latimes.c...0,2391177.story

I'm with the attorney on this one.

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2012/10/17/3120147/coach-quits-in-maine-zumba-prostitution.html

The usual way for the WG, is to ask the john to show his dick, and for john's who who suspect leo, to ask the provider to show her tits / pussy, THAT is the way to avoid entrapment, that said I NEVER "punt" except maybe in TJ, NV or a protected zone.

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Don't forget we have name and shame here. Get caught picking up a street walker being the first to get done under the coercion rules and end up in court. You can be certain that your local newspaper will carry the story even if you were playing well away from home.

With the street workers yes, but with the new offence of paying a person subjected to force it seems they're a little shy...there was a question asked in parliament as to how many had been prosecuted and they replied that it was 40+ men (I forget the exact number) who had been put through the magistrates' court for the new offence at that time, but not one has been individually publicised. Not one by-line in any paper, not even a mention of the prosecution with names omitted. Very odd indeed.

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I'm with the attorney on this one.

http://www.myrtlebea...ostitution.html

The usual way for the WG, is to ask the john to show his dick, and for john's who who suspect leo, to ask the provider to show her tits / pussy, THAT is the way to avoid entrapment, that said I NEVER "punt" except maybe in TJ, NV or a protected zone.

I'm sure I remember watching a US police documentary where the police had been given permission to show their tackle to the ladies - it wasn't entirely forbidden.

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I'm sure I remember watching a US police documentary where the police had been given permission to show their tackle to the ladies - it wasn't entirely forbidden.

Maybe, probably state, not federal statute. I haven't punted in continental USA for years, as my passport is no protection at home. I make the exception for Hawaii or Nevada.

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