Galahad

If You Were Going To Design The Perfect Escort Directory Site...

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...what features would you consider essential, or just nice to have?

What about operating policies?

For starters, here is what I envision:

A basic, free listing for service providers with paid listings available in order to have features such as a photo gallery and to post announcements and tours;

A search engine like what is on the Service Provider Database at present, but with more features and searchable fields added. What should those be?

All advertisers must accept the publication of reviews. That alone will weed out a lot of the dodgy ones.

Only genuine service providers - no non-existent escorts with pay-per-view photo galleries.

Above all.. KEEP IT SIMPLE!

Ladies and gentlemen are all welcome to reply with ideas and suggestions.

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Galahad I know you are a bit dubious of girls who only advertise on Adultwork and nowhere else, but the reason I do that is because it is the only place I can see feedback about the clients wanting to book me. I am very cautious about allowing incalls. On Adultwork I can atleast see by their feedback whether they are genuine, nice clients. I don't allow incalls to people with zero or little feedback. Whilst I know this can't rule out 100% the possibility of some psycho coming through my door, it does make me feel a little less anxious. For that reason I love Adultwork, and I have friends who also advertise on that site alone solely for that reason. If there was another site I could see feedback about the clients contacting me I would advertise on it.

Also, I will never give any escort site my name and credit card details. On Adultwork you can use Ukash vouchers to pay them with if you want to be featured etc.

Those are the 2 main reasons I use Adultwork.

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Client feedback as proposed by Turandot. It would boost the credibility of normal punters and discourage dodgy ones. Feedback not with the option to hide though like aw has or used to have.

A timewasters phone numbers section where you can type in a phone number and it will let you know if its already been submitted as a bad number and how many times, the list doesnt actually have to be on public display though. It would need to show how many times the number has been submitted though as everyone has a "shit happens" day which causes them to not be able to call in time and cancel occasionally.

One username, the same for all sections of the website, forum, reviews etc. Anonymity isnt really an excuse when their username is already anonymous.

Other than that I think this site is a pretty damn good blue print

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...what features would you consider essential, or just nice to have?

What about operating policies?

For starters, here is what I envision:

A basic, free listing for service providers with paid listings available in order to have features such as a photo gallery and to post announcements and tours;

A search engine like what is on the Service Provider Database at present, but with more features and searchable fields added. What should those be?

All advertisers must accept the publication of reviews. That alone will weed out a lot of the dodgy ones.

Only genuine service providers - no non-existent escorts with pay-per-view photo galleries.

Above all.. KEEP IT SIMPLE!

Ladies and gentlemen are all welcome to reply with ideas and suggestions.

The ability to seach for three letter words, CIM and OWO are just two examples.

Why not change post your title from 'If' to 'I am'?

I think we would all be supportive of this!

I know I would.

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The list of likes and dislikes needs expanding and clarifying. There is no 'fingering' for example.

Also, I think it should be made clear that ALL services are at the ladies discretion, meaning that the double entries can be got rid of.

A way of policing it and weeding out fakes would be good.

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It may hurt us both to say it, but I would start with the purple site's features and sift out those that don't suit your criteria including simplicity which those of us without tech knowledge may find harder to know what this requires.

I doubt it can end up all that simple in the sense that punters want to narrow down their targets re location and services.

I personally would not find non-picture entries much use but everyone can come up with a similar point and simplicity will be out the window.

It would for once then be giving you some payback for the hassle it has caused you and without doubt they have over the years come to have most of the features people seem to want despite all the failings.

Best wishes for a successful project - if 20 years too late for me perhaps :(

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Basically its just look at Adultwork and then fix what they do wrong.

The two main problems with Adultwork is the amount of fake Private Gallery scams on there and the fact that they do not police them.

The other main problem is the fact that the service provider can review the punter. What point does that serve other than to intimidate the punter to not give her a negative review as he will get one back

If a competitor can fix the mistrust issues Adultwork has with regards to the amount of fakes on there then it has a very good chance of beating it in a fight for number one.

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For all it's failings adultwork does have some excellent points. The search is very customizable, a bit too much though if searching by the "enjoys". If that were simplified it would be good. As someone else said everything should be at the ladies discretion so remove double listings of activities.

Feedback is the big issue that needs resolving. Somehow the security has to be in place so that people can't make fake profiles for the purpose of misleading punters with fake FB. Don't ask me how, I sometimes struggle to turn the computer on :D

No hiding feedback and maybe don't allow the feedback to be shown until both parties have left it for each other unless it's negative. I've seen a lot of profiles with a good amount of feedback but they have never left any for the punters who have supposedly seen them.

No name changes.

No private gallery until a certain time has passed or a level of feedback has been reached.

A list that shows the locations the profile has been in. Make it so they can't just change location without there being a record. For the touring ladies maybe have a seperate tour section like adultwork does which doesn't move the main location of the profile.

There is pros and cons for most of this but just some suggestions

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for those naysaying feedback on client, this is half th reason a lot of girls even bother using aw as it allows them to sift out the rude, unhygienic, timewasting, aggressive,dodgy etc. Why should an sp not have the right to reply, the only ones who dont like this are the ones who know there could be an issue. The transaction is with two parties, both parties need the right to reply especially when not only safety but peace of mind is essential.

I would say one of the worst features of aw is that either party has the ability to delete their profile when they recieve awful feedback and start a new profile, this means scaming girls and dangerous clients can just keep on going with impunity...in fact i have seen punters bragging about this on this very site in the distant past one of which i could name but shant as i dont think he is on here anylonger

Perhaps an IP checker that goes on automatically when a new profile is set up would weed out these dodgy individuals and render them unable to continually reset up new profiles...dodgy punters and dodgy girls.

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I'm afraid I'm disagreeing with the girls about feedback. Most of my bookings are taken by phone so I have no idea if they are on AW or any other site and use my own instinct and base my decision on whether to see someone based on their attitude when communicating with me.

I also think providers don't leave honest feedback anyway for fear of repercussion. Most the AW feedback is ridiculous and pointless and only serving to ego boost the client in hope of getting another booking. Often the 'Sexy, handsome, hot' men described may be perfectly nice but really not any of the things described! This would also incite the AW thing of decent guys not getting a booking because they have no feedback, which doesn't seem dreadfully fair.

Also, would this mean that to allow a client or SP the ability to leave feedback in the same style as Adultwork not mean that you'd need a booking system in place making this project more complicated? Similarly would allowing private galleries be best avoided to keep things simple and also to reduce those who just wanted to make money. Most women have their own website which the clients can access to see pictures.

I think its a mistake to look at AW as a starting model and work from that. It over complicates the thought process because it has so many features and is obviously a big set up compared to poor old G on his own managing it! And the very reason things go wrong on AW is that it is too big to be managed properly hence the fake and dodgy profiles.

I do agree with the suggestions of IP tracking so those who had been found out to be dodgy in some way couldn't start a new profile.

Would the directory include agencies and parlours and providers who didn't offer full service or those who just do phone or web chat?

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I'm afraid I'm disagreeing with the girls about feedback. Most of my bookings are taken by phone so I have no idea if they are on AW or any other site and use my own instinct and base my decision on whether to see someone based on their attitude when communicating with me.

I also think providers don't leave honest feedback anyway for fear of repercussion. Most the AW feedback is ridiculous and pointless and only serving to ego boost the client in hope of getting another booking. Often the 'Sexy, handsome, hot' men described may be perfectly nice but really not any of the things described! This would also incite the AW thing of decent guys not getting a booking because they have no feedback, which doesn't seem dreadfully fair.

Also, would this mean that to allow a client or SP the ability to leave feedback in the same style as Adultwork not mean that you'd need a booking system in place making this project more complicated? Similarly would allowing private galleries be best avoided to keep things simple and also to reduce those who just wanted to make money. Most women have their own website which the clients can access to see pictures.

I think its a mistake to look at AW as a starting model and work from that. It over complicates the thought process because it has so many features and is obviously a big set up compared to poor old G on his own managing it! And the very reason things go wrong on AW is that it is too big to be managed properly hence the fake and dodgy profiles.

I do agree with the suggestions of IP tracking so those who had been found out to be dodgy in some way couldn't start a new profile.

Would the directory include agencies and parlours and providers who didn't offer full service or those who just do phone or web chat?

I tend to agree with the above: I have had a few bad punts and haven't reported them for fear of recrimination.

On the 6 feet 5, sporting a six pack front, I've never described myself in any FRs, perhaps I should!

When first contacting ladies I do say that I am 54, white, trimmed beard with a slight tummy, which is totally honest.

Perhaps a new database needs a serious 'report this SP or SS' button that triggers an initially small investigation?

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This is primarily a reply to Turandot and Chloe.. thank you for your thoughts regarding client feedback. I can understand the points that you are making. However, one of the great strengths of PN has always been that the ladies' contact details are available to view without needing a membership on here at all. The forum is only the tiniest tip of the iceberg, there are tens of thousands of people who read the FRs and the SPD (and who go and visit the ladies) and who never register as members here. The last thing I am going to do is to alienate all the punters who want to be able to find service providers without having to register an account. This makes the concept of client feedback of limited value.

That being said, however, I am envisioning a phone number lookup system, available only to registered service providers, which will accomplish much the same result.

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This is primarily a reply to Turandot and Chloe.. thank you for your thoughts regarding client feedback. I can understand the points that you are making. However, one of the great strengths of PN has always been that the ladies' contact details are available to view without needing a membership on here at all. The forum is only the tiniest tip of the iceberg, there are tens of thousands of people who read the FRs and the SPD (and who go and visit the ladies) and who never register as members here. The last thing I am going to do is to alienate all the punters who want to be able to find service providers without having to register an account. This makes the concept of client feedback of limited value.

That being said, however, I am envisioning a phone number lookup system, available only to registered service providers, which will accomplish much the same result.

Agreed. used the FRs for many years before joining this forum.

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Am just thinking about this (I don't have much to do this morning!) but I think unless we know Galahad's objectives it's difficult to say what should be included. I don't expect him to say publicly but is the point of this to a) make money, b. Get as many providers on board as possible c) Provide a directory with genuine providers, somewhere people can be assured that those advertising are genuine?

I think the latter is important, anyone can set up on AW, anyone with a website can get on any of the many other directories, they can not guarantee quality, if you could do that wouldn't that be a USP? It might take more work and limit those who can advertise (for example those without their own website) but gaining a reputation that this was THE place punters could come to and find girls who are genuine and professional be a huge bonus? More work verrifying those who applied to advertise but could reap benefits in the long run?

Edited by LondonLydia

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I would like to see photos used on the profiles date stamped when they are submitted.

Profiles that aren't accessed on a regular basis either deleted, suspended or stamped with a warning.

CB

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Galahad I know you are a bit dubious of girls who only advertise on Adultwork and nowhere else, but the reason I do that is because it is the only place I can see feedback about the clients wanting to book me. I am very cautious about allowing incalls. On Adultwork I can atleast see by their feedback whether they are genuine, nice clients. I don't allow incalls to people with zero or little feedback. Whilst I know this can't rule out 100% the possibility of some psycho coming through my door, it does make me feel a little less anxious. For that reason I love Adultwork, and I have friends who also advertise on that site alone solely for that reason. If there was another site I could see feedback about the clients contacting me I would advertise on it.

Also, I will never give any escort site my name and credit card details. On Adultwork you can use Ukash vouchers to pay them with if you want to be featured etc.

Those are the 2 main reasons I use Adultwork.

I have no problems with escorts seeing feedback on me from other escorts. I would be very surprised if any reasonable 'punter' would object. I certainly would not do so

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I don't expect him to say publicly but is the point of this to a) make money, ( c) Provide a directory with genuine providers, somewhere people can be assured that those advertising are genuine? And a reputation that this was THE place punters could come to and find girls who are genuine and professional.

If those are three of Galahad's objectives then I am in complete agreement. If Galahad wants to devote more time into developing and improving this site then should he not be recompensed accordingly?

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The other main problem is the fact that the service provider can review the punter. What point does that serve other than to intimidate the punter to not give her a negative review as he will get one back.

I think it is essential that the lady should be able to check on a prospective client. If access to the information was only possible by service providers and the individual client himself would this not solve the problem? The client would surely be more likely to leave an honest feedback rather than the fantasies that are left on many occasions now. Negative feedback from the SP would not be visible by the world at large. Both parties could challenge and until settled both feedbacks would be removed by the administrator. If it can't be settled amicably then then the removal is final.

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An easy way to omit profiles from future searches would be good,

Edited by sirpuntsalot

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One username, the same for all sections of the website, forum, reviews etc. Anonymity isnt really an excuse when their username is already anonymous.

I must disagree with this suggestion. I have a username for this forum and a different name that I use for my punting and field reports.

I have my own reasons for this which are nobody else's business. My contact details, held by the administrator, are identical in both cases. At the moment there is only one lady who posts in this forum who knows both names and much more. I am confident that, if asked, she would confirm that I am not dodgy or a timewaster or any other detrimental term that might be used. As time goes by it is my hope that more ladies who frequent this forum will become aware of both names.

I hope this isn't coming across as me being annoyed because I'm not. I just wanted people to be aware that some of us may have perfectly legitimate reasons for using two names. Even though it might not be obvious.

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I think it should be made clear that ALL services are at the ladies discretion.

Honesty is required. Take kissing for example because it's something that is an essential part of the process as far as I am concerned. I'm not able to jump on the tube or drive for twenty minutes to meet a lady, find out that she is not prepared to offer her "discretionary" service to me, walk away and then call another lady who lives nearby as a backup.

There are ladies that I see in real life that I wouldn't want to kiss. That is entirely different from a lady offering these services. But I don't want to see that kissing is "discretionary". Or anal (sorry too big). Or fingering (nails too sharp). Or oral (tongue too rough). Or blowjob (where is it?).

I have no objection to the ladies "discretions" being don't turn up unclean, foul breath, still wearing your smelly work clothes and other matters of basic cleanliness and good manners. Speaking of which show a little respect to the other person and you can expect some back.

The lady is offering a service. Make sure that the client knows exactly what to expect in exchange for his money.

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Both parties could challenge and until settled both feedbacks would be removed by the administrator. If it can't be settled amicably then then the removal is final.

If I left a negative feedback for someone saying "has a bad attitude". Or, "was not clean" "ran me around with daft directions to get her place" You can bet your last dollar the girl will come back with a negative saying "he refused to pay". "he was being aggressive". "timewaster" Or some other offensive statements just to get revenge.

There is a reason why ebay stopped allowing the seller to feedback review the buyer and that is as any buyer who is not happy with the product he receives negs the seller. The seller would immedately neg the buyer as revenge and then message that buyer saying "if you remove your neg about me, I will remove mine about you". I can say this has happened to me on ebay. The adultwork system is so similar to that of ebay.

There should be a means to report punters who act wrongly. But that is not via dropping them a negative feedback.

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This is primarily a reply to Turandot and Chloe.. thank you for your thoughts regarding client feedback. I can understand the points that you are making. However, one of the great strengths of PN has always been that the ladies' contact details are available to view without needing a membership on here at all. The forum is only the tiniest tip of the iceberg, there are tens of thousands of people who read the FRs and the SPD (and who go and visit the ladies) and who never register as members here. The last thing I am going to do is to alienate all the punters who want to be able to find service providers without having to register an account. This makes the concept of client feedback of limited value.

That being said, however, I am envisioning a phone number lookup system, available only to registered service providers, which will accomplish much the same result.

Hi G, I didnt mean all reports be hidden, I just meant for the ladys who prefer them not to be there. The frs already give a form of client feedback anyhow in the rebuttal system.

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I have no problems with escorts seeing feedback on me from other escorts. I would be very surprised if any reasonable 'punter' would object. I certainly would not do so

my thoughts exactly.

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I would start with simplicity which those of us without tech knowledge may find harder to know what this requires. I doubt it can end up all that simple in the sense that punters want to narrow down their targets re location and services.

As another tech dummy I would definitely agree. It would be nice to enter a post code and click on the various categories that interest you and up pops a list of service providers. I don't have a clue as to how to do it but I know a man who probably can!

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