Holly Maddison

Reporters And The Media.

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They really pee me off.

Over the years I've had several run ins with the press both as a working girl and in my normal life and they really do my nut in. Yesterday I had a female reporter PM me on the other forum I go on asking if I'd be prepared to give her my story from start to finish, she maintains that I will be paid well and it would be a totally unbiased story 'how many times have I heard that one before?' She said she first became interested in me here and I got the impression she is working freelance.

On top of that someone mentioned something else to me today about the press that I'm not going to go into detail, but it can and will affect some of our lovely ladies in the worst possible way. To say I am fuming is an understatement, so as this woman found me here and obviously is very interested in what we do, I'm going to answer her here in public and see if she responds openly, which she will do if she is genuine.

Sweetheart I am not going to sell myself to you or anyone else in that way, no matter how much money you offer me, I don't believe you when you say it will be unbiased, as they never are, and feel that if you really want to know how a working girl feels, there is only one way you can find out and thats to get your off your lazy butt, use your own money box and find out for yourself. Why the hell should you or anyone else make money out of me and indirectly my clients in this way. Its just not going to happen.

Do you silly people even comprehend what your doing, how you can be at best upsetting the ladies and at worst putting them in extreme danger with your stupidity? If just once one of you genuinely put our side of things as it should be said, then maybe I and others would feel differently but you DON'T.

If I'm wrong here and you are genuine then you won't mind coming on here and asking right out, if you don't then I know I'm right about you.

Holly.. One very peed off ex hooker.....

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*Cheers for Holly*

I loathe the press and their relentless efforts to either out people, sensationalise and continue to perpetuate the stereotypes of sex workers and their clients.

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well done Holly and also Lydia

the media is there to sell copies and info NOT to report the facts!!!!

i hate people who lower themselves

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I get tons of emails from people claiming to be from the press and these silly womens weekly mags.I even had one ring up claiming they were seeking info about the crossbow killer and street girls.I've never worked on the street but great that you assume we are all the same and live our lives the same...not.

What most of us want is to go about our lives and jobs as quietly and as unobtrusively as possible.I have never seen a sympatheically wrote piece about this industry or even an honest one unless written by an actual wg.

Yes I'll be very interested to see whoever it is post on here!

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Good for you Holly!

So many reporters twist words and seem to portray all us WG in a bad way, they are for the most part very bias in their opinions.

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I so want this reported to come and stick up for themselves and maybe actually write something useful and positive.

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I meant reporter not reported!

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I so want this reported to come and stick up for themselves and maybe actually write something useful and positive.

She probably wont, but I will. To be fair to her, she has approached the OP honestly, asking if she would be interested in doing an interview. She's no doubt approached many other WGs on the same forum she found the OP on. She doesnt appear to be pressurising her or trying to blackmail her in some way, and she hasnt done anything sneaky like booking her and then either bringing it up at the meeting and trying to talk her into it.

Not all journalists are scum suckers you know, I've dealt with a few in my working life and they can be very fair and reasonable. I've also (unlike someone else wrote in this thread) seen articles in magazines that are sympathetic/honest about the industry (a notable one in Loaded I recall).

As for expecting her to go on the game herself to write the article, that's just plain daft. Reporters report. They tell other people's stories. Unless she's unduly hassling you with dozens of PMs, I dont see what the gripe is.

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its the hypocrisy that annoys me, papers such as the daily mirror will sensationalise a story about prostitution yet there are adverts in the manchester evening news (part of trinity mirror group) for brothels & escort agencies, so the newspaper group that condemns prostitution also makes money from it!

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Not to mention the number of hacks who probably visits WGs themselves.

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She probably wont, but I will. To be fair to her, she has approached the OP honestly, asking if she would be interested in doing an interview. She's no doubt approached many other WGs on the same forum she found the OP on. She doesnt appear to be pressurising her or trying to blackmail her in some way, and she hasnt done anything sneaky like booking her and then either bringing it up at the meeting and trying to talk her into it.

Not all journalists are scum suckers you know, I've dealt with a few in my working life and they can be very fair and reasonable. I've also (unlike someone else wrote in this thread) seen articles in magazines that are sympathetic/honest about the industry (a notable one in Loaded I recall).

As for expecting her to go on the game herself to write the article, that's just plain daft. Reporters report. They tell other people's stories. Unless she's unduly hassling you with dozens of PMs, I dont see what the gripe is.

I'm not sure why you think I was expecting her to go on the game?! I do understand the concept of reporting.

And obviously I'm not stupid enough to detest all journalists, but when you've been and know of plenty of others who have been done over by journalists it makes you a bit cynical.

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Keep an eye open for the provincial papers tomorrow There could be a shitty story about our hobby.Obviously I hope it will not happen, but I am worried.

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I'm sure many of us here remember "Cath", a reporter who came on this forum in December 2009 as part of her research for an article that eventually appeared in Glamour magazine. The thread was entitled "Anyone willing to chat to me" (or similar), and Cath claimed that she'd come here in the interest of making the article "even-handed". Needless to say, the article, when it appeared, was anything but.

(In fact long before publication, Cath's posts on the thread were making it clear that she'd very quickly made up her mind that coercion was rife among WGs, and that most punters were in wilful denial of this.)

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Not all journalists are scum suckers you know, I've dealt with a few in my working life and they can be very fair and reasonable. I've also (unlike someone else wrote in this thread) seen articles in magazines that are sympathetic/honest about the industry (a notable one in Loaded I recall).

Maybe not all, but the vast majority of journalists - especially those working for the tabloids - are lying scum suckers. Most journalists will write up their story on the basis of sensationalism, misrepresentation, connection to celebs (however vague), and lurid details because they know that's what their editors and proprietors expect of them. The facts hardly come into it. Even those journalists who express an understanding of their subject matter and a commitment to journalistic ethics will find that their copy will be drastically altered and censored by their editor in the interest of "what sells".

Far too many people have been unfairly done over by journalists and newspapers with no right of reply or chance to put forward the truth of the matter. Anyone who feels that journalists, as a profession, are fair and reasonable will have a chance to think again after reading extracts from the Leverson report coming out today

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Unless she's unduly hassling you with dozens of PMs, I dont see what the gripe is.

Holly didnt say she had heard from David Cameron, George Brown, Tony Blair, John Major, Maggie Thatcher etc...so why do you think loads of PM's have been hastling her!..... :D

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She probably wont, but I will. To be fair to her, she has approached the OP honestly, asking if she would be interested in doing an interview. She's no doubt approached many other WGs on the same forum she found the OP on. She doesnt appear to be pressurising her or trying to blackmail her in some way, and she hasnt done anything sneaky like booking her and then either bringing it up at the meeting and trying to talk her into it.

Not all journalists are scum suckers you know, I've dealt with a few in my working life and they can be very fair and reasonable. I've also (unlike someone else wrote in this thread) seen articles in magazines that are sympathetic/honest about the industry (a notable one in Loaded I recall).

As for expecting her to go on the game herself to write the article, that's just plain daft. Reporters report. They tell other people's stories. Unless she's unduly hassling you with dozens of PMs, I dont see what the gripe is.

The gripe my darling is that I have witnessed first hand girls who's lives have been totally destroyed by these leeches and their untruthful sensationalist reporting. As I said to someone yesterday, the media need to sell their crap and will always consider their wider audience first, as we in the industry are in the minority and considered by society in the main as the lowest part of society that is how the media will always portray us, they are in the business of making money aren't they? A few years back (and I'm not going to mention names because G and others went to great lengths to do damage limitation) one of the loveliest, sweetest and most innofensive women I have ever met had her life ripped apart by the nationals, its just not on.

Honey you have no idea how badly we do get harrassed, Kerang used to be dreadful for it at one time. What riled me in this case was the fact that she went onto another forum and PM'ed me there, why not just PM me here, why follow me around like that? Also I have always been annoyed by people that make money out of us and give nothing back in return. You can bet if she is willing to pay me a large sum to me, she will be making more, so if I was inclined to sell my story, which I am not, I would write and sell it myself. To be honest with this reporter it may have just been bad timing in light of this other stuff thats going on that I can't go into detail at the moment, that made me mad.

As for her or any other journalist going on the game to get their story, why the hell not? A war correspondent goes to war do they not? Thats the only way a reporter is truly going to understand the realities of this job don't you think?

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They really pee me off.

Over the years I've had several run ins with the press both as a working girl and in my normal life and they really do my nut in. Yesterday I had a female reporter PM me on the other forum I go on asking if I'd be prepared to give her my story from start to finish, she maintains that I will be paid well and it would be a totally unbiased story 'how many times have I heard that one before?' She said she first became interested in me here and I got the impression she is working freelance.

On top of that someone mentioned something else to me today about the press that I'm not going to go into detail, but it can and will affect some of our lovely ladies in the worst possible way. To say I am fuming is an understatement, so as this woman found me here and obviously is very interested in what we do, I'm going to answer her here in public and see if she responds openly, which she will do if she is genuine.

Sweetheart I am not going to sell myself to you or anyone else in that way, no matter how much money you offer me, I don't believe you when you say it will be unbiased, as they never are, and feel that if you really want to know how a working girl feels, there is only one way you can find out and thats to get your off your lazy butt, use your own money box and find out for yourself. Why the hell should you or anyone else make money out of me and indirectly my clients in this way. Its just not going to happen.

Do you silly people even comprehend what your doing, how you can be at best upsetting the ladies and at worst putting them in extreme danger with your stupidity? If just once one of you genuinely put our side of things as it should be said, then maybe I and others would feel differently but you DON'T.

If I'm wrong here and you are genuine then you won't mind coming on here and asking right out, if you don't then I know I'm right about you.

Holly.. One very peed off ex hooker.....

Because of my links with the sex industry and something else I am involved with - Julie Bindel wanted to meet me along with a couple of other ladies from an organisation......... If I thought they were genuinely interested in what I had to say because I can look at this industry from all sides of the coin, I might have, but the fear of being outed again was too much. Why would I put myself at risk for people who only want personal gain/fame and nothing else?

Good for you Holly x

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A couple of very quick thoughts re the media - you never HAVE to speak to them, just hang up or if they are at your door it's

'no comment' and shut the door.

They are not allowed to take pictures of you going about your normal course of business, so at your front door for example,

or on the school run.

You are entitled to your privacy the same as anyone else and should you ever run into any difficulties, there are several things

you can do. Contact the IUSW, Scot-PEP, or ECP as all of those organisations have people who are used to dealing with the

press.

Most importantly, contact the Press Complaints Commission ====> http://www.pcc.org.uk/

They have an emergency helpline and can stop an article going to print if you can show your privacy is going to be breached.

Obviously, this is of most importance when you have children.

In my experience, most journalists are OK, but like every group of people there will always be one or two bad apples.

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A couple of very quick thoughts re the media - you never HAVE to speak to them, just hang up or if they are at your door it's

'no comment' and shut the door.

They are not allowed to take pictures of you going about your normal course of business, so at your front door for example,

or on the school run.

You are entitled to your privacy the same as anyone else and should you ever run into any difficulties, there are several things

you can do. Contact the IUSW, Scot-PEP, or ECP as all of those organisations have people who are used to dealing with the

press.

Most importantly, contact the Press Complaints Commission ====> http://www.pcc.org.uk/

They have an emergency helpline and can stop an article going to print if you can show your privacy is going to be breached.

Obviously, this is of most importance when you have children.

In my experience, most journalists are OK, but like every group of people there will always be one or two bad apples.

Good advice Laura, but all thats assuming you know in advance its going to print and you know as well as I do that once a National runs with it (which they often do after finding stuff in the locals) they don't really care about breaching your privacy.

Our local paper did show pictures of the premises girls worked from and photos of the girls leaving those premises on two seperate occasions last year, then went after another well known girl printing pictures of her working premises and a facial shot taken from her website, then shortly after that myself and two others found ourselves on the front page too (luckily for me the info they were working from was years out of date, I'd been retired for some time) but the other two did not get off so lightly.

I'm glad you've had some good experience with reporters, mine have not been so good, particularly with the nationals.

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They are not allowed to take pictures of you going about your normal course of business, so at your front door for example,

or on the school run.

They are allowed actually. In the UK, anyone is entitled to take a photograph of an adult who is standing in a public place, without needing that person's permission or even knowledge. In the school run for example, as long as any children in the photo have their face blurred out when it's published, it's perfectly legal.

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As for her or any other journalist going on the game to get their story, why the hell not? A war correspondent goes to war do they not?

Yeah but they dont pick up a gun and start offing the enemy do they?

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And the problem now is the Leveson Enquiry has given them carte blanch to carry on regardless, unless I got it totally wrong?

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Yeah but they dont pick up a gun and start offing the enemy do they?

No agreed but then a journalist could harldy sit in on a booking with girl taking notes could she, so the only two ways she can get the story is to leech off a girl already working or try it herself.

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And the problem now is the Leveson Enquiry has given them carte blanch to carry on regardless, unless I got it totally wrong?

Nothing will change. The same rubbish (about all sorts of topics, not just prostitution) will appear with relentless monotony.

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Well Done Holly at sniffing this one out. The fact that she has tried to operate in such an underhand way exposes the real agenda. There have been a few journalists that have put them selves up to scrutiny here and it seems the broadcast journalists have proven to be fair and honest while the print media journalists get exposed as fundamentaly dishonent every time.

The Press Complaints Commission is a choclate tea pot, lets just hope the replacement is closer to OFCOM than the PPC.

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