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it becomes clear to him during a punt that his lady is merely going thru the motions of the encounter. iow-- she is just about doing her duty in providing the service professionally but is really not "there" at all with the client ?

should he say anything to try and change things ? should he just keep banging away anyway to completion ? should he walk out-- with or without asking for money back ?

you can meet most people in a business transaction and provided they do their job professionally, we are pretty happy. but, in my view, the intimacy of the time with an escort is such that the experience requires more than a mere "professional job ". of all the professions to be in , escorting is one which really requires the lady to actually enjoy what she is doing ,as if she does not, the whole experience surely fails.

some of the WGs who post here regularly taunt male posters with reminders that WGs spend much of their time " acting " during punts. now much of the time they dont mean acting by making an effort to be in better form etc--- they mean acting by way of deceiving , i.e fake enjoyment of the intimacy/ sex , fake moaning , pretending to show an interest in the punter when really they couldn't give a toss , fake compliments etc,etc.

the problem is when the punter actually spots the acting, the deceit ---- what should he do ?

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Go to a different WG. You can't expect cash back because they've provided but you can look elsewhere for better customer service.

The worst thing to do is go back repeatedly and get frustrated.

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it becomes clear to him during a punt that his lady is merely going thru the motions of the encounter. iow-- she is just about doing her duty in providing the service professionally but is really not "there" at all with the client ?

should he say anything to try and change things ? should he just keep banging away anyway to completion ? should he walk out-- with or without asking for money back ?

you can meet most people in a business transaction and provided they do their job professionally, we are pretty happy. but, in my view, the intimacy of the time with an escort is such that the experience requires more than a mere "professional job ". of all the professions to be in , escorting is one which really requires the lady to actually enjoy what she is doing ,as if she does not, the whole experience surely fails.

some of the WGs who post here regularly taunt male posters with reminders that WGs spend much of their time " acting " during punts. now much of the time they dont mean acting by making an effort to be in better form etc--- they mean acting by way of deceiving , i.e fake enjoyment of the intimacy/ sex , fake moaning , pretending to show an interest in the punter when really they couldn't give a toss , fake compliments etc,etc.

the problem is when the punter actually spots the acting, the deceit ---- what should he do ?

How on earth is he going to be certain??

What is the difference between acting and trying to give a good impression?? A girl who is professional will try to do the latter and may enter into the meeting wholeheartedly. But that might come some way into it as she susses out her client and relaxes into the mood with him.

So at what point during a meeting would you make the decision and walk?

Maybe if she senses that a guy is suspicious of her behaviour she should boot him out before he walks???

I think that once the intros are over and you are happy with the first impressions any 'walking' should be limited to some obvious transgression not some vague idea of what constitutes play-acting. It would be a minefield and totally unworkable.

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it becomes clear to him during a punt that his lady is merely going thru the motions of the encounter. iow-- she is just about doing her duty in providing the service professionally but is really not "there" at all with the client ?

I suppose it all depends if the punter expects the lady to be "there", I don't expect the lady to be "there", I know full well that if the lady could get the same money, because after all it is just a business transaction, without being "there" (in the literal meaning of the word), then she would do so.

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I suppose it all depends if the punter expects the lady to be "there", I don't expect the lady to be "there", I know full well that if the lady could get the same money, because after all it is just a business transaction, without being "there" (in the literal meaning of the word), then she would do so.

Is "there" in the first instance referring to outcall, as maybe, "here" would be more fitting. When we provide incall we are "there" are we not, as against incall, when, we are for practical reasons actually "here" notwithstanding the personal viewpoint which would dictate wheter "here" was in fact "there" or "there" rather than actually meaning "there" meant "here" If you expect a lady to be "there" you may be juxtaposing verbs. If she was "there" then she must be somewhere other than "here" "Here" with me "there" with you. We can't be "here" and "there" at the same time, no matter how much we try.

Try another provider. You are paying to be here there or wherever. If you dont enjoy it look elsewhere - its one of the beautys or paying for sexual services.

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Is "there" in the first instance referring to outcall, as maybe, "here" would be more fitting. When we provide incall we are "there" are we not, as against incall, when, we are for practical reasons actually "here" notwithstanding the personal viewpoint which would dictate wheter "here" was in fact "there" or "there" rather than actually meaning "there" meant "here" If you expect a lady to be "there" you may be juxtaposing verbs. If she was "there" then she must be somewhere other than "here" "Here" with me "there" with you. We can't be "here" and "there" at the same time, no matter how much we try.

Try another provider. You are paying to be here there or wherever. If you dont enjoy it look elsewhere - its one of the beautys or paying for sexual services.

Ooh I don't know.

When I look in a mirror I am 'there' even though I know I am 'here'

After reading that I began to wonder if I was 'here' or 'there' or indeed 'anywhere':D

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Go to a different WG. You can't expect cash back because they've provided but you can look elsewhere for better customer service.

The worst thing to do is go back repeatedly and get frustrated.

Why cant you ask for some form of refund? I had a similar situation arise yesterday, in my opinion provided you are polite surely a compromise on the refund is not unacceptable?

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Is "there" in the first instance referring to outcall, as maybe, "here" would be more fitting. When we provide incall we are "there" are we not, as against incall, when, we are for practical reasons actually "here" notwithstanding the personal viewpoint which would dictate wheter "here" was in fact "there" or "there" rather than actually meaning "there" meant "here" If you expect a lady to be "there" you may be juxtaposing verbs. If she was "there" then she must be somewhere other than "here" "Here" with me "there" with you. We can't be "here" and "there" at the same time, no matter how much we try.

Try another provider. You are paying to be here there or wherever. If you dont enjoy it look elsewhere - its one of the beautys or paying for sexual services.

My reply was written in response to a post where the word "there" was not meant to be taken literally (which was why it was placed within quotation marks) as in physically being with the punter, but was meant to be taken as an indication that she was in some form of mental convergence with the punter. I merely contended that it all depended on whether or not the punter expected the lady to be "there", I do not expect the lady to be "there" and I have no problem with that. My reasoning for not expecting the lady not to be "there" is because it is a business transaction and not because the lady had picked me out of a line-up as the person she wanted to be "there" with, the only reason that she is there as opposed to "there" is because of payment, once again not something that I have any problem with. In short it is neither here nor there to me whether the lady is "there" or not, provided that she is happy to supply me with what I am paying for, then that is all I need to know.

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oh man !! talk about getting side tracked ------ " here"," there", "everywhere"--- sounds like a beatles song !!

MR XL --- your gut will tell you if you have detected disinterest or deception and most likely, your gut will be right. the difficulty is more the picking it up in the first place.

SAS --- thats fine and I respect your approach. provided you "get what you paid for ", you seem to be reasonably happy-- everyones a winner. my problem is that once I detect disinterest, then I dont see the point of say GFE, RO AND FK, without which I would not punt. personally, I would be out of there in a flash and did so on at least one occassion.

I see that some of the posters have the attitude -- " sure put it behind you and move on to the next punt"-- as if you are just unlucky as a one off experience. trouble is that many of the WGs posting here believe that serious " acting" is all too common an occurrence and they are probably right.

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SAS --- thats fine and I respect your approach. provided you "get what you paid for ", you seem to be reasonably happy-- everyones a winner. my problem is that once I detect disinterest, then I dont see the point of say GFE, RO AND FK, without which I would not punt. personally, I would be out of there in a flash and did so on at least one occassion.

Of course it does depend upon the way the punter defines "there"/disinterest, but let's not beat about the bush here, there are only going to be a limited number of men that a woman actually wants to be and can be "there" with, now the chances of a man who she has never seen before who is paying her money for sexual services being one of that limited number has to be fairly remote, so that, by definition, is going to water down the "there" bit, now it comes down to how much it is watered down and whether or not it descends to active disinterest (peeling an orange while you're on the vinegar stroke springs to mind). As far as I am concerned as long as she keeps her mind on the business in hand, so to speak, then I expect no more and actually consider it unreasonable to expect anything more, in fact I prefer that over an obvious feigned interest.

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We can't be "here" and "there" at the same time, no matter how much we try.

I suppose a "spit-roast" is out of the question then ? ;-)

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This is ludicrous.

How many restaurants have you had to visit to find a good one where the food was really worth the money.

It is the same with paying for sex. A price is agreed and a service provided. If it does not satisfy then you simply try elsewhere until you find what you want.

And don't forget - as far as the contract goes you are paying for time - nothing more.

As for me - I don't require the girl to "be there", so to speak - or to truly enjoy what she is doing. I just require someone who I find really sexy - to allow me to do what I want with her and follow a few simple instructions.

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mike11--- interesting that you believe most career girls " hate " their job. I dont know if you are right, I hope to jaysus that you are wrong. I can agree that I detect this with some of the girls, but some say and I'm inclined to believe them that they do this job from choice and do find it enjoyable or reasonably pleasurable a lot of the time--- strawberry and sexymay spring to mind and i am sure there are many others.

if you are right then, then to stand a better chance of avoiding a disinterested WG, should a punter steer clear of career girls and focus in on the younger girls who might be trying to earn some easy money

to get thru college or to just to fund a nice life style outside of their career path? do they carry much less " baggage " ?

SAS--- there is a bit of me that envies your approach--- you seem happy with a mechanical service , provided the lady acts out her part and does the business, then you are happy. your success rate on punting should always remain high.

I on the other hand, believe that there should be at least some level of chemistry between a man and a woman and if the guy is not unattractive, then with the right attitude and effort he should be able to produce a positive sexual response [ yes , of varying levels ] in a lady and he should want to do this. if I fail in this, then I cant continue and I cant wait to leave.

how do others feel ?

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I don't mind taking an unpopular position here. Fake it girls. I need some level of engagement because I enjoy a role-play scenario. It ruins the punt if the girl's either uninterested or unwilling to act, I don't care how badly - just some smidgen of effort would help enormously.

A big pow-wow to the fakers.

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This is ludicrous.

How many restaurants have you had to visit to find a good one where the food was really worth the money.

It is the same with paying for sex. A price is agreed and a service provided. If it does not satisfy then you simply try elsewhere until you find what you want.

And don't forget - as far as the contract goes you are paying for time - nothing more.

As for me - I don't require the girl to "be there", so to speak - or to truly enjoy what she is doing. I just require someone who I find really sexy - to allow me to do what I want with her and follow a few simple instructions.

sas-- you are not alone it seems.

first, my guess is the majority of punters enjoy the "hobby " because it affords them the opportunity to have sex with many different types and ages of girls. punting is not a search for the chosen one.

secondly, if you choose to search and then stay with one or two regular girls, then I find it hard to believe that when it comes to her, all you really care about is " to allow me to do what I want with her and follow a few simple instructions "

. I have never had a " regular " but for those who do, I suggest they have some special liking for the girl and like to think that she derives some level of enjoyment or pleasure from the regular encounters. those guys with a regular, please help me out here.

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I suppose a "spit-roast" is out of the question then ? ;-)

No I'm afraid thats "there" and "there" at the same time which not "here":D

Besides I find a Menage a whatsit a little too much like hard work. I don't know where to look for the best.

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mike11--- interesting that you believe most career girls " hate " their job. I dont know if you are right, I hope to jaysus that you are wrong. I can agree that I detect this with some of the girls, but some say and I'm inclined to believe them that they do this job from choice and do find it enjoyable or reasonably pleasurable a lot of the time--- strawberry and sexymay spring to mind and i am sure there are many others.

if you are right then, then to stand a better chance of avoiding a disinterested WG, should a punter steer clear of career girls and focus in on the younger girls who might be trying to earn some easy money

to get thru college or to just to fund a nice life style outside of their career path? do they carry much less " baggage " ?

SAS--- there is a bit of me that envies your approach--- you seem happy with a mechanical service , provided the lady acts out her part and does the business, then you are happy. your success rate on punting should always remain high.

I on the other hand, believe that there should be at least some level of chemistry between a man and a woman and if the guy is not unattractive, then with the right attitude and effort he should be able to produce a positive sexual response [ yes , of varying levels ] in a lady and he should want to do this. if I fail in this, then I cant continue and I cant wait to leave.

how do others feel ?

You can buy sex but you can't buy chemistry - it's either there or it isn't. Same way the girl is either going to find you attractive or she isn't. The only way you are going to guarantee these things is from a relationship, where someone is with you because she chooses to be, not because you are paying her.

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No I'm afraid thats "there" and "there" at the same time which not "here":D

Besides I find a Menage a whatsit a little too much like hard work. I don't know where to look for the best.

HELEN -- you look fab but you're beginning to sound like one of Mike11's career girls. maybe you like that-- hope i'm wrong.

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if you choose to search and then stay with one or two regular girls, then I find it hard to believe that when it comes to her, all you really care about is " to allow me to do what I want with her and follow a few simple instructions "

There is more to it of course. I found a regular recently and am enjoying the client/provider relationship building - I suppose that some degree of openess and good spirits is also essential, and the appearance of effort and the odd surprise - communication, open chats - yes there is more to it than I said. But still - as for my regular - I don't know whether she enjoys it or not - i don't ask - i don't want to be lied to. So I leave it a mystery. But of course total indifference would be a turn off.

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You can buy sex but you can't buy chemistry - it's either there or it isn't. Same way the girl is either going to find you attractive or she isn't. The only way you are going to guarantee these things is from a relationship, where someone is with you because she chooses to be, not because you are paying her.

agreed -- but surely,[ dont call me surely !! ;) ] thats not to say that a positive genuine and enjoyable sexual connection for both parties cannot occur just because money changes hands ? is the girl precluded from finding a punter attractive merely because he pays ? there are no guarantees but is the so-called fluffy approach a waste of time and effort. ?

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Be careful about going down the 'regular' route, it can be a minefield. That said I'm seeking a regular independent. I'm done with parlours. It's disappointing to find absolute perfection in the bedroom but a disagreeable personality. This only appears as the 'relationship' evolves. The problem is believing the fantasy. It can approximate a regular relationship including the negativity associated with a regular vanilla coupling from which you might be trying to escape. You don't want to go down the well-trodden route of developing feelings for the girl that are unlikely to be reciprocated.

Some of the best advice given to me by the stalwarts on here was to punt more widely. Generally I've also found that independents tend to give better value and IME are much less likely to fuck you about.

Thanks, fellas. You can be assured that your sage advice does not fall on deaf ears.

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I guess all you can do is make the most of it and opt not to go back to that particular girl. Either she's just like that, perhaps drained by a long time in the profession, or she just doesn't click with you and vice versa, either way if she's providing the services you paid for then you can't really expect a refund. Walking out would only leave you horny, disappointed and out of pocket anyway so you may as well finish.

I've had a couple of disappointing punts but I've always just made the most of it and always taken some good memory from it, whether it be a nice handjob finish, a certain pleasure during the blowjob, the way she looked at some point during the punt, something she said...whatever, there's always been something I've taken from it.

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I have got dressed and walked, after about 10-15 minutes on about 10 occasions, being a wg is a difficult job, but some girls are absolutely unsuited for the activity. As a punter you have to be prepared to lose a bit of money, before finding someone who does it for you. However if you go to properly run parlours, the management should move on the unsuitable girls quite quickly.

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agreed -- but surely,[ dont call me surely !! ;) ] thats not to say that a positive genuine and enjoyable sexual connection for both parties cannot occur just because money changes hands ? is the girl precluded from finding a punter attractive merely because he pays ? there are no guarantees but is the so-called fluffy approach a waste of time and effort. ?

Depends how fluffy you are.

It's difficult being a prostitute. She may be your first sexual encounter for the month, but you could be her 3rd for the day. She is likely to have more sex in a month than you have in a whole year. No matter how much 'one' likes sex it's not posssible to 'up for it' every minute of the day. I do not see any problem with a girl putting on an act some of the time, as long as it's done in a convincing way and not too OTT with silly fake moaning.

Maybe you are being too analytical about the whole thing. Or perhaps if you think the lady is going too much into auto pilot, take control of the situation. Tell her what you like, what you want and don't let her take too much of the lead. If you lay there like a sack of potatoes and do not interact in any way, it is more likely to be a more mechanical encounter.

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