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Leila-Deepthroatstar - Bait'nswitch

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Arranged to visit Leila-DeepthroatStar in Finchley Road: all done via text messages. Got there, called her, text message from her to say she was caught in traffic and would I like to see Alice-blowjob queen in her stead? I declined the offer. No offer of later time &c. I do not believe she had any intention of seeing me. Sixth abortive punt in a row. 1, kinky amanda in Kenton: was the girl in the pictures, but she spoke no English at all, unlike the woman who answered the 'phone. 2, Kinky-N-Dirty Sex who never answered my call when I got to Queensway. She later apologised - she had left her 'phone at a friends! 3. RubMyClit - nympho , plain old bat'nswitch. 4, Marta - from Diva ( she is with other agencies too - nothing at all like her photos. 5, Pearl of London, she would not answer her 'phone when I tried to contact her on the morning I had arranged to meet her. Lastly today with Leila.

I just hope things get better in 2013. Lots of WGs back from their holidays so there should be more of a choice.

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Is this Leila the thai girl . ? if so she has some good rec's and a following . But I would advise caution when following the TG who have taken to AW . The profiles seem to be false , I met one recently who refused to take a call and wanted only text contact [ that way they can switch you easier ]

Things can only get better for you sigispen after reading of your recent contacts . happy new year .

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In my experience Leila has a pretty hard-working and reliable ethic, so it's highly unlikely that she herself would make an appointment she didn't intend to keep, or try to palm a prospective punter off onto another WG. More likely, in my view, is that you were dealing with the agency, and that when it turned out Leila, for whatever reason, wouldn't be able to get to the appointment, they figured the best way to salvage their commission would be to offer you someone else. But I agree that they should also have offered you a later appointment with Leila.

By the way, there's been speculation for some time now that these AW profiles for known Asian agency WGs are actually created and posted by the agency/agencies rather than by the girls, generally using rather less glossy (and at times downright unflattering) pictures. In the case of the girl you were offered, for example, I think you'll find that "Alice" equates to Visky of aagirls.net and aclass asians. (Haven't seen that particular lady myself so can't comment on what she's like.)

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Is this Leila the thai girl . ? if so she has some good rec's and a following . But I would advise caution when following the TG who have taken to AW . The profiles seem to be false , I met one recently who refused to take a call and wanted only text contact [ that way they can switch you easier ]

Things can only get better for you sigispen after reading of your recent contacts . happy new year .

Yes it is. I saw her on AW and contacted her via the 'phone number there. I never talked to her, as I got a text message back. So it could have been an agency. Either way, she was not at the address when I got there and it was she, not Alice, I wanted to see.

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In my experience Leila has a pretty hard-working and reliable ethic, so it's highly unlikely that she herself would make an appointment she didn't intend to keep, or try to palm a prospective punter off onto another WG. More likely, in my view, is that you were dealing with the agency, and that when it turned out Leila, for whatever reason, wouldn't be able to get to the appointment, they figured the best way to salvage their commission would be to offer you someone else. But I agree that they should also have offered you a later appointment with Leila.

By the way, there's been speculation for some time now that these AW profiles for known Asian agency WGs are actually created and posted by the agency/agencies rather than by the girls, generally using rather less glossy (and at times downright unflattering) pictures. In the case of the girl you were offered, for example, I think you'll find that "Alice" equates to Visky of aagirls.net and aclass asians. (Haven't seen that particular lady myself so can't comment on what she's like.)

Beau, I have never met Leila, either the oriental agency version or the AW version, so I cannot tell whether they are one and the same. I know that Chris and others whose recommendations I value have only good things about the oriental agency WG Leila and I would be tempted to book her as an indie via AW if she is the same girl. I have taken to printing out photos of WGs I have booked based on their AW profile and have no qualms about saying 'no, thanks' and leaving if I am not happy with the WG who greets me in the room. On the other hand, Finchley Road is quite a bit further than W2 for one who lives in SW London and I don't know of any worthwhile Plan B in that neighborhood. There are at least six Thai WGs with oriental agency backgrounds currently posting AW profiles, but I wish I knew more about their past. Caveat emptor, I guess :( Edited by Tiggy 7

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Yes it is. I saw her on AW and contacted her via the 'phone number there. I never talked to her, as I got a text message back. So it could have been an agency. Either way, she was not at the address when I got there and it was she, not Alice, I wanted to see.

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I don't think they are run through an agency . My view is that some of these average Tg feel that if they try to go solo they can still ask the 150 for services and cut out the agency fee . I think they get a bf / admirer to write up the profiles [ as they read similar , as if share the same author ]

Not the way to go IMO , they would eventually get bad reviews and damage themselves and the agencies that they also work with together with their indie ventures . The one I saw Becky / annie , booked her from her Aw profile , the worst punt of 2012 IMO .

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I don't think they are run through an agency . My view is that some of these average Tg feel that if they try to go solo they can still ask the 150 for services and cut out the agency fee . I think they get a bf / admirer to write up the profiles [ as they read similar , as if share the same author ]

Not the way to go IMO , they would eventually get bad reviews and damage themselves and the agencies that they also work with together with their indie ventures . The one I saw Becky / annie , booked her from her Aw profile , the worst punt of 2012 IMO .

This is a fairly recent phenomenon on AW. In the past, most of the Thai (as well as 'oriental' and 'asian') profiles there have been quite different than the webpages of oriental agency Thai WGs. Different in terms of rates and spread out over a much wider range of Greater London than the standard Queensway/Paddington/Edgware Road axis. They have tended to be older (fine with me) and to have had more life experience, which can make them more interesting to be with when one is not bonking them. They also tend to have greater English fluency (often as the divorced mates of Brits) and any concern about bonding or trafficking rarely crops up - they usually give the appearance of being 'their own woman'.

At the end of the day, a punt is a punt is a punt and I will board that EVA flight to LOS 12 days from right about now! :D

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12 days and you've got me counting now :P

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12 days and you've got me counting now :P

My flight just left the gate 15 minutes ago (twelve days from now). Anticipation is such a wonderful thing. It will probably rain for 28 days and 28 nights and my Thai GF and I will spend them getting seasick in an Ark. :D

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In my experience Leila has a pretty hard-working and reliable ethic, so it's highly unlikely that she herself would make an appointment she didn't intend to keep, or try to palm a prospective punter off onto another WG. More likely, in my view, is that you were dealing with the agency, and that when it turned out Leila, for whatever reason, wouldn't be able to get to the appointment, they figured the best way to salvage their commission would be to offer you someone else. But I agree that they should also have offered you a later appointment with Leila.

By the way, there's been speculation for some time now that these AW profiles for known Asian agency WGs are actually created and posted by the agency/agencies rather than by the girls, generally using rather less glossy (and at times downright unflattering) pictures. In the case of the girl you were offered, for example, I think you'll find that "Alice" equates to Visky of aagirls.net and aclass asians. (Haven't seen that particular lady myself so can't comment on what she's like.)

I agree, it wouldn't be like Leila to play any of those games Sigispen was put through. It does now look like the AW pages are being run by some minor-league agency such as AAgirls (Leila is listed with them, with other agencies as Lucy), and without the girls' knowledge.

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I had good experiences booking one thai girl (sadly not working anymore) through her AW profile after a successful meeting with her through an agency, I confirmed with her on our first meet that it was actually her controlling the AW profile, so I saw her a few more times at 130 before she raised her prices inline with the agencies at 150. After this I started taking more of an interest in the Thai AW profiles, looking to save 20 quid on a booking.

When sexy-anne on AW (jasmine on aclass) came on the scene earlier this year, I thought I'd try the same approach, agency booking first then ask about the AW profile if it went well. Her AW profile was actually 150 too, but i thought I'd rather give the money to her than an agency. Anyway, I showed her the AW profile and the pics and asked if she controlled the profile, her eyes almost popped out of her head when she saw the photographs, I believe it was the first time she had seen the AW profile. And she said she only got punters through agencies. Although her English wasn't great. Jasmine was a good punt.

A lot of the other profiles of thai agency girls who are on AW seem to read the same as sexy-Anne's and Leila's which lends strength to my suspicion that it is some sort of agency run by someone connected to the girls, as the prices are the same I'd rather book through an agency I trust to deliver the goods.

I know of a couple dual listed AW/agency girls who were both genuine for less than the agency prices, however I'd avoid booking any girl listed at 150 an hour through AW that are also on an agency website.

If you can get a genuine booking Leila/Lucy is a good girl. good luck for 2013

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I think the hallmarks of this particular breed of AW profile are starting to emerge by now:

You'll generally be able to find the girl on 121 asians and/or aagirls.net, and possibly aclass asians too (I'm fairly sure the first 2 are essentially the same management with slight variations in the roster, aagirls tending to have a few more girls than 121; not sure about aclass, which seems to vary rather more, but there's often a significant overlap).

The pricing will be identical to the agency pricing.

The photos are usually a lot less glamorous/glossy than the girls' agency photos, and as I've already said, at times fairly unflattering. Presumably the idea is to create the impression of authenticity. (There may however be one or two who have the same photos as their agency profiles, I'm not sure.)

The names may be totally different from the agency names - e.g. sexy-annie does indeed seem to be Jasmine, and SaucyCassie is obviously Zafira - but not always: Leila and Betty are both advertised under variations of their agency names.

The text will usually be a rather cartoonish, OTT affair, often quite extended and laden with smileys and other emoticons, painting the girl in question as an insatiable nymphomaniac. My impression is that the writer is probably not a native English speaker but writes considerably better English than most of these girls would be capable of.

Personally, I'm fairly convinced that these profiles are agency-run, so on the whole I would always tend to go via the agency itself (why should I want to have an agency texting me and PRETENDING to be the girl? - plus, the girl may have FRs here on Punternet under her agency name, which would be a much more reliable guide). But I suspect that in terms of what's in it for the girl, it doesn't make a scrap of difference.

As to whether the girls are aware of these profiles at all, I couldn't say - possibly some know and some don't?

(For the record: in terms of unflattering photos, the worst of these AW profiles I've seen to date is for "oriental sofi", known at various agencies as Megan/Megan Sung. Having said which, I also think Leila's a lot better looking than her AW photos suggest, so it may be that Megan/sofi is simply a girl who doesn't photograph well.)

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Incidentally, I suspect that the OP's experience of phoning but not being able to speak to anyone, and all contact being via text, is pretty much the rule as regards these profiles. Not proof positive, certainly, but in my opinion it does tend to support my view that they're agency-run.

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I think the hallmarks of this particular breed of AW profile are starting to emerge by now:

You'll generally be able to find the girl on 121 asians and/or aagirls.net, and possibly aclass asians too (I'm fairly sure the first 2 are essentially the same management with slight variations in the roster, aagirls tending to have a few more girls than 121; not sure about aclass, which seems to vary rather more, but there's often a significant overlap).

The pricing will be identical to the agency pricing.

The photos are usually a lot less glamorous/glossy than the girls' agency photos, and as I've already said, at times fairly unflattering. Presumably the idea is to create the impression of authenticity. (There may however be one or two who have the same photos as their agency profiles, I'm not sure.)

The names may be totally different from the agency names - e.g. sexy-annie does indeed seem to be Jasmine, and SaucyCassie is obviously Zafira - but not always: Leila and Betty are both advertised under variations of their agency names.

The text will usually be a rather cartoonish, OTT affair, often quite extended and laden with smileys and other emoticons, painting the girl in question as an insatiable nymphomaniac. My impression is that the writer is probably not a native English speaker but writes considerably better English than most of these girls would be capable of.

Personally, I'm fairly convinced that these profiles are agency-run, so on the whole I would always tend to go via the agency itself (why should I want to have an agency texting me and PRETENDING to be the girl? - plus, the girl may have FRs here on Punternet under her agency name, which would be a much more reliable guide). But I suspect that in terms of what's in it for the girl, it doesn't make a scrap of difference.

As to whether the girls are aware of these profiles at all, I couldn't say - possibly some know and some don't?

(For the record: in terms of unflattering photos, the worst of these AW profiles I've seen to date is for "oriental sofi", known at various agencies as Megan/Megan Sung. Having said which, I also think Leila's a lot better looking than her AW photos suggest, so it may be that Megan/sofi is simply a girl who doesn't photograph well.)

Fascinating, especially to one who was an enthusiastic oriental agency devotee during the heydays of Oriental Gems and A1-Asian and the early days of Asian Selection, but who threw in the towel on agencies about three years ago in disgust over what appeared to be the rather dubious business practices of a number of the newer ones that opened after the demise of OG and A1. 121 and AA are about the only remaining London oriental agencies (or agency) still around from before the fall and AClass Asian came in around that time, too - and the fact that these dubious AW profiles are of girls listed with those agencies does make one wonder. I know enough about several of the newer agencies, especially Invasian and Olina, to know that there are decent agency choices out there and I may feel forced to abandon my use of AW where I find that a maiden of my desire is also listed with one of them.

Just as a matter of historical interest, this similar thread on Trustworthy London Escort Agencies started here five years ago brings back many memories:

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I think the hallmarks of this particular breed of AW profile are starting to emerge by now:

You'll generally be able to find the girl on 121 asians and/or aagirls.net, and possibly aclass asians too (I'm fairly sure the first 2 are essentially the same management with slight variations in the roster, aagirls tending to have a few more girls than 121; not sure about aclass, which seems to vary rather more, but there's often a significant overlap).

The pricing will be identical to the agency pricing.

The photos are usually a lot less glamorous/glossy than the girls' agency photos, and as I've already said, at times fairly unflattering. Presumably the idea is to create the impression of authenticity. (There may however be one or two who have the same photos as their agency profiles, I'm not sure.)

The names may be totally different from the agency names - e.g. sexy-annie does indeed seem to be Jasmine, and SaucyCassie is obviously Zafira - but not always: Leila and Betty are both advertised under variations of their agency names.

The text will usually be a rather cartoonish, OTT affair, often quite extended and laden with smileys and other emoticons, painting the girl in question as an insatiable nymphomaniac. My impression is that the writer is probably not a native English speaker but writes considerably better English than most of these girls would be capable of.

Personally, I'm fairly convinced that these profiles are agency-run, so on the whole I would always tend to go via the agency itself (why should I want to have an agency texting me and PRETENDING to be the girl? - plus, the girl may have FRs here on Punternet under her agency name, which would be a much more reliable guide). But I suspect that in terms of what's in it for the girl, it doesn't make a scrap of difference.

As to whether the girls are aware of these profiles at all, I couldn't say - possibly some know and some don't?

(For the record: in terms of unflattering photos, the worst of these AW profiles I've seen to date is for "oriental sofi", known at various agencies as Megan/Megan Sung. Having said which, I also think Leila's a lot better looking than her AW photos suggest, so it may be that Megan/sofi is simply a girl who doesn't photograph well.)

Yes, convincing analysis here. As you say, anyone wanting to book Leila/Lucy would be better advised to go through a reliable agency - I would suggest Asian Options, where she appears as Lucy. She is an honest girl who will always do her best to please.

(I've met Megan, and let's say she isn't cover-girl material)

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I booked Leila last Saturday. It was her in the photos and I had an absolutely wonderful time.

She's lovely and I intend on revisiting. She's open-minded and I went for a-level and her wonderful deepthroat. Posted a long review on the other site but it only allowed the short review for some reason. Unusually for me I came twice. Immediately afterwards when I was in the shower with her I got erect again so I am definitely into her it is fair to say.

Treat her well.

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Oh, and I think it Leila's number because she personally texted me using that number when she couldn't see me as she looked into the street.

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In fact, the title seems a little unfair since Leila has had good feedback apart from your experience, OP.

Maybe it was a one-off?

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Incidentally, I suspect that the OP's experience of phoning but not being able to speak to anyone, and all contact being via text, is pretty much the rule as regards these profiles. Not proof positive, certainly, but in my opinion it does tend to support my view that they're agency-run.

I think the opposite here , sorry Beauregard . The girl can't speak if she is working and is with a customer , but can send a short text to " a friend " I never found an agency yet who refused to speak to a client , it can lose business .

Their english is not that great so these indies go to text to avoid having to answer service questions . They are not accustomed to speak direct with the punter after being looked after by an agency reception .

murphy's experience more or less confirms the girl uses her own phone . Another thing to notice is that the girl has no need to text in to any agency to confirm that punter is on premises and she looks into her phone to check his name and his payment to said agency .

I believe these girls operate outside of agencies . In the case of Megan that was proven to me long ago .

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I think the opposite here , sorry Beauregard . The girl can't speak if she is working and is with a customer , but can send a short text to " a friend " I never found an agency yet who refused to speak to a client , it can lose business .

Their english is not that great so these indies go to text to avoid having to answer service questions . They are not accustomed to speak direct with the punter after being looked after by an agency reception .

murphy's experience more or less confirms the girl uses her own phone . Another thing to notice is that the girl has no need to text in to any agency to confirm that punter is on premises and she looks into her phone to check his name and his payment to said agency .

I believe these girls operate outside of agencies. In the case of Megan that was proven to me long ago .

I agree with worldpunter and I think that agencies do not mind girls doing this if they do not undercut agency rates. Hence Shakira has her own site, but is also on Asian Options at the same rate.

My reason for not going through an agency was that I wanted Leila to receive all the fee.

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I agree with worldpunter and I think that agencies do not mind girls doing this if they do not undercut agency rates. Hence Shakira has her own site, but is also on Asian Options at the same rate.

My reason for not going through an agency was that I wanted Leila to receive all the fee.

Exactly my reason also . Thinking if the girl receives the full 150 fee she may put more heart into her service . Found it not to be true and I should have known better from past experiences . The human being . The only animal to make the same mistake twice .

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Exactly my reason also . Thinking if the girl receives the full 150 fee she may put more heart into her service . Found it not to be true and I should have known better from past experiences . The human being . The only animal to make the same mistake twice .

Very interesting - I didn't even think of that, though it's been several years since I booked a girl through an agency. And I have frequently watched on as AW girls checked their texts while I was lying there, presumably trying to ensure that the next train didn't pull into the station until the current one had departed! :mad:

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I think the opposite here , sorry Beauregard . The girl can't speak if she is working and is with a customer , but can send a short text to " a friend " I never found an agency yet who refused to speak to a client , it can lose business .

Their english is not that great so these indies go to text to avoid having to answer service questions . They are not accustomed to speak direct with the punter after being looked after by an agency reception .

murphy's experience more or less confirms the girl uses her own phone . Another thing to notice is that the girl has no need to text in to any agency to confirm that punter is on premises and she looks into her phone to check his name and his payment to said agency .

I believe these girls operate outside of agencies . In the case of Megan that was proven to me long ago .

No problem wp, I do believe we're both mature enough to agree to differ on a point like this. ;)

(Or at least, we sure as hell should be if we're old enough to be going with girls...! :lol: )

In any case, as regards the original thrust of this thread, I think that most of us, particularly those who know her, are pretty clear on the fact that Leila simply isn't the type to engage in bait & switch-style games.

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No problem wp, I do believe we're both mature enough to agree to differ on a point like this. ;)

(Or at least, we sure as hell should be if we're old enough to be going with girls...! :lol: )

In any case, as regards the original thrust of this thread, I think that most of us, particularly those who know her, are pretty clear on the fact that Leila simply isn't the type to engage in bait & switch-style games.

You may be quite right, but the fact is she was not there when I got to her place. She could have sent me a message to say she was going to be late. So if you do want to see her you should make it plain that is the case and you do not want a substitute.

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