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Disability Campaigner Wants Government To Fund His Sex Life

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Apart from the sheer lunacy of the suggestion that the taxpayer should fund a sex life for him, he is blithly assuming that a WG would be comfortable seeing someone with those type of disabilities. And I dont mean that in a disparaging way, just being realistic.

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Good piece of news-hounding cov.

I almost choked though when reading this bit:

'One council has used taxpayers’ money to pay for the services of a prostitute in Amsterdam for 21-year-old man with learning difficulties as part of his care package under new policies which transfer funds directly to those who receive care from social services.'

Which council? And why didn't they place their client in the capable hands of a provider here in the UK.

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If he gets away with this, then the next step is for the tax payer to fund his eating and drinking habits, closely followed by his holidaying choices and his drugs habit. Then we will be paying for his vet's bills for his budgie! Whatever next?

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Why not have surrogacy for the disabled? I suppose it depends on whether you see intimacy and sex as a basic human need, and whether you are unfortunate to be one of those disenfranchised.

In any case, I'd rather my tax paid for that than windmills for Africa, or benefits to every Tom, Dick and Harry turning up in Dover with their hand out.

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I actually think this is very important. If can normalise and help reduce the stigma of sex work. This is exactly the opposite of what the misandrist feminazis who want sex work illegalised want. They want sex workers to have stigma. Their attempts to illegalise sex work are based on ideology and morality not on reality.

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Apart from the sheer lunacy of the suggestion that the taxpayer should fund a sex life for him, he is blithly assuming that a WG would be comfortable seeing someone with those type of disabilities. And I dont mean that in a disparaging way, just being realistic.

OK, its only a film, but the Elephant man seemed to be provided for!

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... he is blithly assuming that a WG would be comfortable seeing someone with those type of disabilities. And I dont mean that in a disparaging way, just being realistic.

Have a look at the TLC Trust - www.tlc-trust.org.uk ! There a goodly number of ladies who make a point of being welcoming the disabled.

As to the taxpayer paying, although in Holland there has been (at least) one case taken to court by a disabled man who wanted to get his end away on the 'ealth. IIRR the ruling was that the state would pay the difference between a normal short-time and his rather slower and slightly more expensive* one once a month!

* An 'ordinary' whore wasn't good enough for him - he needed a skilled disabled sex-therapist, hence more expensive!

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I disagree with this. While I think prostitution should be legal and there should be no stigma about disabled people visiting sex workers, I do think clients should save up and cough up the fee themselves.

 

 

'One council has used taxpayers’ money to pay for the services of a prostitute in Amsterdam for 21-year-old man with learning difficulties as part of his care package under new policies which transfer funds directly to those who receive care from social services.''One council has used taxpayers’ money to pay for the services of a prostitute in Amsterdam for 21-year-old man with learning difficulties as part of his care package under new policies which transfer funds directly to those who receive care from social services.'

 

I remember hearing about this at the time. What was wrong with the services of an escort in the UK why go all the way to Amsterdam? He would prob have more fun with a WG in the UK anyway, in Amsterdam prostitution is very tightly regulated all customers get is a little oral (always with a condom no exceptions) and then some hurried sex, there is no kissing or anything else.

 

 

... he is blithly assuming that a WG would be comfortable seeing someone with those type of disabilities. And I dont mean that in a disparaging way, just being realistic.

 

As long as the client is clean and he/she doesn't have anything infectious, I was under the impression WGs were very tolerant of clients with various disabilities.

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I actually think this is very important. If can normalise and help reduce the stigma of sex work. This is exactly the opposite of what the misandrist feminazis who want sex work illegalised want. They want sex workers to have stigma. Their attempts to illegalise sex work are based on ideology and morality not on reality.

 

Exactly. 

 

Also, Rhoda Grant has been quoted as saying that sex with a disabled person is 'disgusting'. 

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Exactly. 

 

Also, Rhoda Grant has been quoted as saying that sex with a disabled person is 'disgusting'.

 

Rhoda Grant should be disowned by her party.

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Rhoda Grant has been quoted as saying that sex with a disabled person is 'disgusting'.

 

I didn't know about that. But now I do my opinion of her has dropped rock bottom. She doesn't debate with facts, she uses her own morales and false statistics.

 

Have you all heard the one about "75% of prostitutes entering the trade when they were children"? Turns out the women used in the study where that statistic came from were all under 18 to begin with and they were all streetwalkers- the study didn't even include adults, and streetwalkers now make up a minority of WGs in the UK. Yet this statistic was used in Grant's consultation document and a quick Google search shows it is all over the internet on feminist and anti-sexwork websites.

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While I am sure most of us will agree that the state should not fund people’s sex lives, there is an important point here. In her interview on Radio Scotland, linked to elsewhere in the forum, Brooke Magnanti stated that escorts provide a particular service to disabled people who would otherwise be deprived of physical contact with their fellow human beings. I hope I am not misquoting her, but I think she said that disabled clients represent bread and butter business for some escorts. The fact that sex workers are providing a means for disabled people to experience something they would otherwise find very hard to experience, but which the rest of society experiences more readily,  is a powerful argument in favour of what they do, and against those trying to make this illegal.  I also think it is a tribute to the openmindedness of those escorts who provide this service, and we should salute this.

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While I am sure most of us will agree that the state should not fund people’s sex lives, there is an important point here. In her interview on Radio Scotland, linked to elsewhere in the forum, Brooke Magnanti stated that escorts provide a particular service to disabled people who would otherwise be deprived of physical contact with their fellow human beings. I hope I am not misquoting her, but I think she said that disabled clients represent bread and butter business for some escorts. The fact that sex workers are providing a means for disabled people to experience something they would otherwise find very hard to experience, but which the rest of society experiences more readily,  is a powerful argument in favour of what they do, and against those trying to make this illegal.  I also think it is a tribute to the openmindedness of those escorts who provide this service, and we should salute this.

 

Catherine Scott's film "Scarlet Road" about Rachel Wotton's work with disabled clients makes this case very powerfully.

http://www.sbs.com.au/documentary/program/845/

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A film to be released on 18 January relates to this in part. Film is called "The Sessions" ad is previewed today in the guardian (and possibly other papers).

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I didn't know about that. But now I do my opinion of her has dropped rock bottom. She doesn't debate with facts, she uses her own morales and false statistics.

 

Have you all heard the one about "75% of prostitutes entering the trade when they were children"? Turns out the women used in the study where that statistic came from were all under 18 to begin with and they were all streetwalkers- the study didn't even include adults, and streetwalkers now make up a minority of WGs in the UK. Yet this statistic was used in Grant's consultation document and a quick Google search shows it is all over the internet on feminist and anti-sexwork websites.

Ah yes, Melrose, the favourite of abolitionists every where.

 

It was my great pleasure to call Rhoda Grant out on that one, although she wasn't best pleased.

 

Funny that. 

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While I am sure most of us will agree that the state should not fund people’s sex lives, there is an important point here. In her interview on Radio Scotland, linked to elsewhere in the forum, Brooke Magnanti stated that escorts provide a particular service to disabled people who would otherwise be deprived of physical contact with their fellow human beings. I hope I am not misquoting her, but I think she said that disabled clients represent bread and butter business for some escorts. The fact that sex workers are providing a means for disabled people to experience something they would otherwise find very hard to experience, but which the rest of society experiences more readily,  is a powerful argument in favour of what they do, and against those trying to make this illegal.  I also think it is a tribute to the openmindedness of those escorts who provide this service, and we should salute this.

 

*wild applause*

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Catherine Scott's film "Scarlet Road" about Rachel Wotton's work with disabled clients makes this case very powerfully.

http://www.sbs.com.au/documentary/program/845/

 

Rachel Wotton is an inspiration and a lady I'd love to meet.

 

SWOU (Sex Worker Open University) are planning a screening in Glasgow soon, (I think). 

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I"ve seen the documentary and Rachel is amazing. The moral panic over sex work is reaching epidemic proportions and one cannot help but feel we are heading towards what happened in America in the 1920's.

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"Disabled Clients" is an option on AW

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I actually think this is very important. If can normalise and help reduce the stigma of sex work. This is exactly the opposite of what the misandrist feminazis who want sex work illegalised want. They want sex workers to have stigma. Their attempts to illegalise sex work are based on ideology and morality not on reality.

 

 

I wholeheartedly agree with you about removing the stigma but I think that we will lose the sympathy of the un-committed if they feel that they are going to have to start paying for someone else's pleasure, however essential it may be to that individual's well being. Like others here I think he will have to fund his punting from his own pocket.

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Exactly. 

 

Also, Rhoda Grant has been quoted as saying that sex with a disabled person is 'disgusting'. 

I dont know anything about Rhoda Grant,but hope she realises that anyone has the chance of becoming disabled.

As a disabled guy myself i have a huge amount of thanks and respect for all escorts, especially the ones who have looked after me for several years now.As well as the TLC site many ladies on AW have it on their likes list.

As for the state paying,i like to pay my own way where i can.

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As DLA moves over to PIP the disabled won't even be able to feed themselves let alone afford sex.  You can imagine the Heil -  Workshy Scroungers Living in £1M properties Want Free Sex.  

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I mention Becky Adams too often but she is involved in a lot of things relevant to the Pnet board.

 

She already has an agency called Para Doxies devoted to bringing ladies and disabled people together. She hs recently received publicity about looking to open a disabled-only, non-profit-making (for her) brothel.

 

Para Doxies works with highly placed personnel in law and other relevant areas such as care of disabled people who have advised her on Para Doxies issues and re entirely supportive.

 

It is apparenttly part of the Human Rights charter that everyone has a right to availing themselves of sexual services - my wording is rubbish so please don't leap on that but just latch onto the principle.

 

Someone was recently quoted (or perhaps tweeted) that the right to sex is not a human right - that may sound likely but is apparently the opposite of the truth.

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I was at a party last year and this disabled guest was present boy didn't he enjoy himself and the girls and the rest of the guests treated him normally and he paid his own way and also I believe for his minder.

I believe he suffered from cerebral palsy but he was a great guy. He left with the biggest grin on his face. Brilliant.

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