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More Than Twice As Many Swedish Men Sell Sex As Women

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I can't understand how sucha liberal country like Sweden criminalises prostitution. Do they really believe it will ever go away, are they that stupid?

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  Anyone know if the Swedish anti-prostitution law criminalises women purchasing sexual services from men?

 

Yes. It's gender neutral.

 

"6.11   Den som, i annat fall än som avses förut i detta kapitel, skaffar sig en tillfällig sexuell förbindelse mot ersättning, döms för köp av sexuell tjänst till böter eller fängelse i högst sex månader.

Vad som sägs i första stycket gäller även om ersättningen har utlovats eller getts av någon annan. Lag (2005:90)."

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Yes. It's gender neutral.

 

"6.11   Den som, i annat fall än som avses förut i detta kapitel, skaffar sig en tillfällig sexuell förbindelse mot ersättning, döms för köp av sexuell tjänst till böter eller fängelse i högst sex månader.

Vad som sägs i första stycket gäller även om ersättningen har utlovats eller getts av någon annan. Lag (2005:90)."

 

Ah, yes. It's all clear now.

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be interesting to find out if any woman or man has been convicted in sweden of purchasing sex from a man, i suspect it will be ignored, i also wonder if any women purchase sex from other women & if that too is ignored

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I recall reading that the only people who have ever been convicted under this supposedly gender neutral law are men who have bought/attempted to buy sexual services from women! It's a blatant man hating piece of legislation and also anti-WG legislation(on the grounds that women who have sex with men, particularily for money are letting radical feminists down) when you consider that the business has been driven further underground thus endangering the lives of WGs and that ladies have had their earnings confiscated for 'evidence' against clients or that they have been forced to give evidence under the extreme duress of being threatened with having their children being put into care if they don't! :mad:

Recently a former Swedish international goalkeeper was convicted and fined after speaking to some Eastern European women in a cafe who were unknown to him WGs, he was prosecuted on the grounds that 'He should have known', how man hating is that!

Also some poster on this thread has made reference to Sweden being a liberal society, well by all accounts it was paradise on earth for those interested in our hobby/profession in the 70s and has very much become the great lost liberal soul of the world!

Let this serve as a warning to those of us in England/Wales, where there has been a long and proud tradition in the sex industry, that things can change radically and quickly!

 

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This is true. In New York, most street sex workers are male. This is because over there if you are female, you get all sorts of support services and everyone tells you not to do it. There is no such equivalence for males.

 

Yes, although the Swedish Model is ostensibly gender neutral that is not the way it is practiced. It is only designed to criminalise men who purchase sex from women - that is the intent of the law. Because the law is based on the view that sex work is "male violence against women". This is exactly the same view that Rhonda Grant has. And yes, my understanding is not a single woman has been convicted of this law, yet thousands of innocent men have. Sweden is truly a disgusting country, and due to misandrist feminists it seems we are heading that way.

 

The only hope to counter misandrist feminists are:

A) Sex Worker Advocacy Groups and Individuals

B) Civil Liberty Groups and Individuals

C) Men's Rights Movement - check out http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/to-the-nice-feminists/ About how mainstream feminism is misandrist.

and http://kyle.thedamnedoldeman.com/?p=18 About Sweden's ideological depravity.

and http://kyle.thedamnedoldeman.com/?p=25 About Radical Feminist Ideology at the heart of the Swedish Model

 

The crazy thing about all this insane talk about the Swedish Model is no one seems to care about criminalising innocent men for engaging in consensual sex, it is as if men do not matter.

 

I would say that if you are a feminist who advocates for sex work, you are a brilliant human being, and it is okay to call yourself a feminist despite the article above.

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There is a massive contradiction at the heart of extreme feminist support for the Criminalisation of the male punter and that is that along with blatant man hating, it implies that a woman is to feeble minded a creature to engage willingly in consensual sex for money! Indeed I suspect radical feminists actually believe that all sex between a man and a woman is violence being directed at a woman and that a woman who has consensual sex with a man is a collaborator in her own oppression! I have in my time come across women (Ususally lesbians though not all and indeed not all lesbians are man haters) who were man haters, however regular women seem to be very quick to recognise this trait in their sisters and can be quite vocal about pointing out how wrong they are!

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be interesting to find out if any woman or man has been convicted in sweden of purchasing sex from a man, i suspect it will be ignored, i also wonder if any women purchase sex from other women & if that too is ignored...!!!

 

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Its weird as you get older, hearing more and more about things like this.

 

I cant believe any man would sell sex to men, unless obviously they are gay. But to pose as a woman? that to me, is lower than lower of low. A lot of people think typical prostitutes are the lowest, but wow... male prostitutes posing as women, that would be it for me time to cut the old wrists for sure if i was in that situation, no matter what.

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I'm wondering if the age range of this sample affects the reponses. For instance are males more likely to prostitute themselves at a younger age than females?

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Isn't Prostitution classed as 'violence against women' by the swedish government?

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Isn't Prostitution classed as 'violence against women' by the swedish government?

 

Yep. Same with the scottish government. I emailed 1st minister Alex Salmond a few months ago about my views on sex work legislation and the reply I got was along the lines of "the scottish government recogizes prostitution as a form of violence against women".

 

A quick search on AW shows about 1/3 of all escorts on there are in fact male. 1/3 is a fairly big chunk yet but interestingly you will never hear rad fems or the media mention this part of the industry.

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"Behind these figures, there are about 20,000 people who need help," said Marie Nyman, a spokeswoman for the board".

 

 

The study also found a strong connection between paying for sex and sexual violence, with 78 percent of those who reported having sold sex said they has also been sexually assaulted.

 

 

http://www.thelocal.se/44386/20121113/#.UPmmU-gV-JA

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A quick search on AW shows about 1/3 of all escorts on there are in fact male. 1/3 is a fairly big chunk yet but interestingly you will never hear rad fems or the media mention this part of the industry.

feminists don't like men and they're quite content to let men suffer in silence and shame when they are victims of violence from women.

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feminists don't like men and they're quite content to let men suffer in silence and shame when they are victims of violence from women.

and to stay at home cleaning and cooking so long as their husbands pay for everything so they can spend their free time spouting shite about us....mmmmm yep, thats female independence for you

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