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There was a big discussion on here a few months back about a series of raids in Luton which closed a lot of places down. The reason for these raids is now clear. See this link...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/04/sex-slavery-gang

I wonder if this report might make those punters who seem to prefer young Eastern European parlour girls, who speak little or no English, think again. I wonder whether those whose stated aim is to pay £25 for a suck or fuck, because they think £40.00 is too expensive, might just wonder if they have contributed to the misery of girls and young women such as these.Considering some of the insensate punters that post on this forum, probably not! In many ways they are as bad as the scumbag males who exploit their own people.:):mad:

To those who have an ounce of compassion and conscience I say, stick with wgs who are mature enough to handle their trade, whose native tongue is English and who are prostitutes from choice. You will find few of them in cheap parlors run by eastern european thugs.

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I wonder if this report might make those punters who seem to prefer young Eastern European parlour girls, who speak little or no English, think again. I wonder whether those whose stated aim is to pay £25 for a suck or fuck, because they think £40.00 is too expensive, might just wonder if they have contributed to the misery of girls and young women such as these.Considering some of the insensate punters that post on this forum, probably not! In many ways they are as bad as the scumbag males who exploit their own people.:):mad:

To those who have an ounce of compassion and conscience I say, stick with wgs who are mature enough to handle their trade, whose native tongue is English and who are prostitutes from choice. You will find few of them in cheap parlors run by eastern european thugs.

Yes I wonder, also it points out that brothels are illegal and those running them are criminals under the current law how ever me may feel about it.

Its best in my view to keep away from any places other than where the girls speak good english and have good reports showing they were at least happy to see us.

This is interesting too.

The judge said although the court heard of only two girls being forced to prostitute themselves, Ali Arslan's brothels employed up to 50 eastern European women and almost certainly included others made to sell their bodies.

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I wonder if this report might make those punters who seem to prefer young Eastern European parlour girls, who speak little or no English, think again. I wonder whether those whose stated aim is to pay £25 for a suck or fuck, because they think £40.00 is too expensive, might just wonder if they have contributed to the misery of girls and young women such as these.Considering some of the insensate punters that post on this forum, probably not! In many ways they are as bad as the scumbag males who exploit their own people.:):mad:

To those who have an ounce of compassion and conscience I say, stick with wgs who are mature enough to handle their trade, whose native tongue is English and who are prostitutes from choice. You will find few of them in cheap parlors run by eastern european thugs.

Luton and Dunstable now has some of the best girls around... the new place in Dunstable has 4 ladies who are very friendly and were born in this country.. thye are also very busy so that speak for itself.

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Some information on the 'new' Dunstable place would be appreciated.

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To those who have an ounce of compassion and conscience I say, stick with wgs who are mature enough to handle their trade, whose native tongue is English and who are prostitutes from choice. .

I say live and let live. Whos is to say that those mature prostitutes weren't originally coerced intop the business in the beginning?

I've found many european girls, speak better english than a lot of Northern girls.

I can converse quite well in French / German, and have some pre-recorded phrases in Mandarin, Malay, Thai, Japanese on my phone that come in useful, to help me understand if a girl is working under duress.

Personally I would much rather an animated lover, than a sack or potatoes.

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Luton and Dunstable now has some of the best girls around... the new place in Dunstable has 4 ladies who are very friendly and were born in this country.. thye are also very busy so that speak for itself.

What are the contact details of the Dunstable place and how old are the girls?

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I wonder if this report might make those punters who seem to prefer young Eastern European parlour girls, who speak little or no English, think again. I wonder whether those whose stated aim is to pay £25 for a suck or fuck, because they think £40.00 is too expensive, might just wonder if they have contributed to the misery of girls and young women such as these.Considering some of the insensate punters that post on this forum, probably not! In many ways they are as bad as the scumbag males who exploit their own people.:):mad:

To those who have an ounce of compassion and conscience I say, stick with wgs who are mature enough to handle their trade, whose native tongue is English and who are prostitutes from choice. You will find few of them in cheap parlors run by eastern european thugs.

Whilst I can see the logic in saying many that are doing this in parlours for £30 and speak no English "may" be being trafficked or forced into it, I disagree totally in saying ALL young EE (or not so young!) are in a similiar situation.

Personally I love many of the EE girls, and often would pick one in favour of a English as I usually find the EE girls more friendly and honest, and there are certainly many of them working here legally and willingly and doing it because they know they can earn decent money and give a good time to reflect this.

Saying carte-blanche all EEs are forced or trafficked is rubbish.

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Whilst I can see the logic in saying many that are doing this in parlours for £30 and speak no English "may" be being trafficked or forced into it, I disagree totally in saying ALL young EE (or not so young!) are in a similiar situation.

Personally I love many of the EE girls, and often would pick one in favour of a English as I usually find the EE girls more friendly and honest, and there are certainly many of them working here legally and willingly and doing it because they know they can earn decent money and give a good time to reflect this.

Saying carte-blanche all EEs are forced or trafficked is rubbish.

I did not say that ALL young EE girls are trafficked or coerced into prostitution. I am expressing the opinion that by patronising cheap parlours offering young EE girls who are unable to speak English fluently, a punter may be either knowingly or unwittingly contribute to the misery experienced by the two girls referred to in the court case and others like them.

A punter visiting working girls who are mature enough to be at ease with their own sexuality and their trade and are fluent English speakers are, in my opinion, less likely to be patronising trafficked girls, and are in a far better position to satisfy any doubts they may have through conversation.

The warning signs would seem to be obvious parlours run by eastern european 'management', low prices, lacklustre, low reacting girls with little or no conversation etc etc.

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I say live and let live. Whos is to say that those mature prostitutes weren't originally coerced intop the business in the beginning?

I've found many european girls, speak better english than a lot of Northern girls.

I can converse quite well in French / German, and have some pre-recorded phrases in Mandarin, Malay, Thai, Japanese on my phone that come in useful, to help me understand if a girl is working under duress.

Personally I would much rather an animated lover, than a sack or potatoes.

Live and let live! What a moral cop out! Apart from the fact that I don't accept your premise that trafficked girls end up becoming content mature prostitutes, what is the relevance of this claim to the debate? Surely you can't be claiming this as a justification for human trafficking? My reference was to eastern European girls not western, since this is the area trafficked girls are predominantly originating from, so your French and German are largely irrelevant in this context. I think your suggestion that you can identify whether a girl is working under duress from pre-recorded phrases in various far eastern languages stored on your mobile is completely risible.

Punters who patronise cheap parlours, run by dubious eastern european pimps, paying low prices for EE girls who can barely speak English should ask themselves whether they are furthering the evil trade of human trafficking.

I don't really understand the relevance of your final sentence apart from the fact that it is glaringly obvious.

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Personally I would much rather an animated lover, than a sack or potatoes.

Bearing in mind recent postings about the £25 punt, possibly a sack of potatoes would be more expensive.

PS - I presume you prefer the mashionery position when you have an appointment with the potatoes?

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Sorry if I'm being thick, but where does it say that this case is related to the Luton raids???

Erm, where it mentions Luton.

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Things have quietened down a bit now in Luton so the parlour in Leagrave has reopened. But to avoid the problems of previous raids, they are specialising in English girls only. They have a genuine 18 year old English girl coming in on Thursday this week, for example. Telephone 07722 220283.

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I say live and let live. Whos is to say that those mature prostitutes weren't originally coerced intop the business in the beginning?

I've found many european girls, speak better english than a lot of Northern girls.

I can converse quite well in French / German, and have some pre-recorded phrases in Mandarin, Malay, Thai, Japanese on my phone that come in useful, to help me understand if a girl is working under duress.

Personally I would much rather an animated lover, than a sack or potatoes.

Really,thats quite an interesting statement you have just made regarding "northern girls",im a northern girl,every female in my family is a northern girl and they were all very articulate.While we are on the subject i take it that means all the Scottish,Welsh and Irish ladies,who, after all can have strong accents. . I hardly think some poor girl who is being forced to prositute herself for a measly £25,(her cut probably a fiver) is going to be an animated,articulate and interesting fuck.Are you implying that british ladies in general are like "sacks of potatoes" or just all those pesky northern trollops.By the way,just because your comprehension is limited when it comes to dialects does not meant those who have them are thick.

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Really,thats quite an interesting statement you have just made regarding "northern girls",im a northern girl,every female in my family is a northern girl and they were all very articulate.While we are on the subject i take it that means all the Scottish,Welsh and Irish ladies,who, after all can have strong accents. . I hardly think some poor girl who is being forced to prositute herself for a measly £25,(her cut probably a fiver) is going to be an animated,articulate and interesting fuck.Are you implying that british ladies in general are like "sacks of potatoes" or just all those pesky northern trollops.By the way,just because your comprehension is limited when it comes to dialects does not meant those who have them are thick.

I totally agree with you Chloe, his comment about Northern girls was ridiculous

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so are you the owner of the leagrave parlour interested??? it's just that you have cheerleaded it in at least 3 seperate threads with details of the workers???:confused:

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I wonder if this report might make those punters who seem to prefer young Eastern European parlour girls, who speak little or no English, think again. I wonder whether those whose stated aim is to pay £25 for a suck or fuck, because they think £40.00 is too expensive, might just wonder if they have contributed to the misery of girls and young women such as these.

You are not wrong! Well said!

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No - the place closed down ages ago. I only provided details in relevant threads where people were asking for info about Luton parlours.

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Sorry if I'm being thick, but where does it say that this case is related to the Luton raids???

Paragraph 7 - "Ali Arslan, 43, got 14 years for controlling the Hackney brothel and another in Luton where the teenager worked two years later..." OK, it doesn't specifically say that the raids were connected to that case but it seems plausible.

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