MissKylie

Alternatives To Adultwork

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I'm sure this has probably been discussed before but I can't see anything recently so sorry if it has. Aside from parlous ect, if you're going to book an independent escort, apart from AW is there any other website or method you guys use to regularly book escorts? I have been on aw for two years now and all the other websites I've seen look pretty rubbish and I would never want to advertise in the local paper so I can't really see many alternatives? It's a little scary how many people rely on aw for their income. I did advertise on here for a wile, but as far as I know only saw a few people from it as I still need to get myself a proper decent website so my ad wasn't linked to anything.

Also when you're looking at a profile or advert, aside from what the girl looks like what kind of things attract you to it and what things turn you off?

Kylie xx

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I've only seen indies for ages now (used to do parlours as well) and either use aw or the FRs so long as the FR links to a website or I can find the lady's aw profile

As to the aw profile, of course the price and likes need to be right for me, the free gallery needs to have good body photos (don't need porn), text gives a good vibe about it, ideally phone number given. Nowadays no good feedback is a bit of a deal breaker and some good reports don't go amiss either. Hope that helps x

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Oh sorry, and what turns me off? Porn photos, hidden feedback and lots of stroppy sounding 'don't do this' 'don't do that' advice to the reader ;-)

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I'm sure this has probably been discussed before but I can't see anything recently so sorry if it has. Aside from parlous ect, if you're going to book an independent escort, apart from AW is there any other website or method you guys use to regularly book escorts? I have been on aw for two years now and all the other websites I've seen look pretty rubbish and I would never want to advertise in the local paper so I can't really see many alternatives? It's a little scary how many people rely on aw for their income. I did advertise on here for a wile, but as far as I know only saw a few people from it as I still need to get myself a proper decent website so my ad wasn't linked to anything.

Also when you're looking at a profile or advert, aside from what the girl looks like what kind of things attract you to it and what things turn you off?

Kylie xx

Interesting question from an SP rather than a Punter.

 

I'm not aware of any other directories as good, or bad, depending on your view point, as Adultwork.

 

There is a thread on here about the perfect directory, have you seen that? If not, it might offer some clues.

 

As a Punter, other methods I have used to find Escorts, marks out of 10 following:

 

Daily Sport adverts. 8

Trade It. 6

Local papers. 5

Google. 6

Punternet FRs. 8

Punternet Forum. 6

Captain 69. 4

Puntingzone. 2

Misc (cards in phone boxes, news agents, soho walk ins. 2

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Well there dearly needs to be an alternative as adultwork have arbitarily removed my profile just when I have recieved 3 new and up to date feedbacks for "breaking the rules" yet they are my own pictures, my phone number, email address and weblink are displayed only in the official aw display places and i have an aw banner on my home page, I have a very active credits and booking system current record. Would LOVE to know what they are going to email me back this time. Probably just some stupid automated response saying absolutley nothing new or telling me I deactivated myself....yet again

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I'm sure this has probably been discussed before but I can't see anything recently so sorry if it has. Aside from parlous ect, if you're going to book an independent escort, apart from AW is there any other website or method you guys use to regularly book escorts? I have been on aw for two years now and all the other websites I've seen look pretty rubbish and I would never want to advertise in the local paper so I can't really see many alternatives? It's a little scary how many people rely on aw for their income. I did advertise on here for a wile, but as far as I know only saw a few people from it as I still need to get myself a proper decent website so my ad wasn't linked to anything.

Also when you're looking at a profile or advert, aside from what the girl looks like what kind of things attract you to it and what things turn you off?

Kylie xx

 

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For a very long time I worked as a BBW (before a drastic weight loss) and started myself a yahoo group called 'Big Girls DD and Over' then put my website details and links to them on the front page. It wasn't long before other girls joined and I had over 15000 members there. After the weight loss and name change I started another and did well with that too. We were running Nympho Parties too and had groups dedicated to those which also linked our websites to them.

At first I paid someone to build my website and a monthly fee for maintaining it (was the guy the originally built Northern Angels) which was money well spent because he was very good, but I then learnt how to use Fusion and Dreamweaver, got a friend to build a server and never looked back after that. At one time I had ten websites live all linked in some way to my primary website, spent hours on my SEO (search engine optimisation) and marketing. All of those websites contained affiliate links to sex sites and pay sites which also brought in a very nice income on top of my escorting.

Its not rocket science or even that hard, but is time consuming but then like most things you get out what you put in.

I can't see how any girls can work successfully just relying on AW alone (far too much competition), even if they use the free sites its got to be better than nothing.

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I know I am not alone in finding the right ladies through the field report section on here. I used exclusively that for a couple of years, before I ventured into AW. Now I use both, and cross check the info. There are local web sites such as Little Black Book for Manchester and there was mention of a similar London based site recently somewhere on here.

Hope that helps.

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Agree with Holly re the way ahead.  She must have worked hard at marketing herself when she was working.

 

There are dozens upon dozens of different directories you can get listed on and depending on where you are located some will be more popular than others.

 

There are also hundreds of different sites (because their size I wouldnt call them directories) that you can get yourself listed on.

 

However I would say that the most important thing to get is a personal website with good SEOs. 

 

Relying on one major website (AW) is business suicide for usually after a few years work does start to dwindle and without wanting to sound cruel the number of girls that come running to the forums when AW goes down is laughable.  I continually tell girls to get themselves listed on as many sites as they can (and keep a list of these sites and their user name on them and the password in a document) so that when you do decide to retire you can get your profile taken down without any hassle.

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AW would not be sufficient alone in bringing me the clients I want.

 

For girls who only work occasionally or do this part time it may well be adequate for their needs.

 

Not all ladies do this for a living and rely on it for their livelihood but for those who do then it is necessary to change links and be seen

on a number of directories.

 

It has been said a hundred times but AW has many faults and although I have never had my profile removed.... I think they should at the

very least contact the lady BEFORE deleting anything... to give the provider the opportunity to rectify any wrongdoings.

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yes, get your own website and one you have control over so you can make changes to and add pictures too etc without having to ask the person looking after it for you. Then you need to learn about SEO- so you get found on Google. You should also blog, Google likes blogging for some reason and will lift you in the rankings.

 

Remember many men see escorts very occasionally and don't see it as a hobby and don't know about AW or PN etc so they will do what we all do- Google! So you need to come up high on Google's list when they decide to look for an escort. It's hard work because indies are competing with long established agencies and directories who will generally come up high if you google a generic 'Escort Essex' or similar. Your website and blog need to contain lots of keywords relevant to you and your services.So your titles should contain relevant words such as your location and your plus points e.g. escort, independent, busty, young, roleplay, anal and so on.  If a man has a particular desire he is likely to google something like Busty Escort Manchester or anal fisting Croydon- so if you are relevant you want to come up top of the list! 

 

Having a decent up to date website will also reassure men you are professional and genuine and as said, add yourself to as many of the free directories as possible. Try Twitter too, I just started using that and have had a couple of bookings from it, 

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I do have my own website. It was only set up about 6 weeks ago though so is probably floundering around in google search somewhere near the bottom still although its linked to every profile i have.

 

Adultwork have redeemed themselves admirable by reinstating my profile. Apparently you are no longer allowed to post specific dates you are available because men get upset if they call you and cant get hold of you, they assume you are then not actually working and like the tossers these specific guys clearly are they report you to get your profile removed. What a bunch of saddos is all I can say.

 

Basically i paid to be in the coventry section, my son was ill, i put a not on my aw saying sorry no cov today and told everyone the truth who called me but once in the local section your stuck there till the time your pound fifty for the day is over so even though i changed my profile back to mk, I was still stuck in the cov local section.

 

All back on track now an aw even replied to the do not reply email which i sent to their do not reply address lol.

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Chloe. Hope your son is better or will be soon x

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Really great advice from Holly Maddison and MinxyLydia about blogging, links and authority.

 

I find it's best to use a WordPress dot org self hosted site to be able to upload images, change text and build a blog. Lydia is right about writing titles and articles around the subject. Get creative with the services and locations as you'll  be able to rank for "foot worship received chelmsford" for example rather than "essex escort". 

 

Good, well captioned images with keywords in the file names and alt text would help as well. 

 

Content is king.

 

One way to get good links is to provide guest articles on other girls' blogs in return for a link.

 

 

It does take a bit of time and work. But, once you retire, you'll have a aged domain with a variety of links pointing to it which you may be able to sell. 

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You need to be savvy and use everything at your disposal. GoodTimeGal made a good point about making sure you keep records of where everything is. There are other simple tips like for example a lot of the directories list their data bases alphabetically (this one used to), so those that had numbers in front of their names or began with A came up first on the searches.

Think about a google search when buying your domain names. A good tip is to think about what guys are likely to type into a browser when looking for an escort and name your domain accordingly (that's if there are any good ones left). Affiliates and reciprocal links drive traffic to your site bumping you up the listings.

Unusual names are good because there is going to be less competition as is copying a famous name. One girl I know had the same name as a celebrity that had a massive fall from grace, when this celeb hit the headlines my friends bookings went through the roof.

Even something as daft as putting a few nice pictures on sites like worldwidewives can bring in work (they don't have to be smutty).

We are all only as good as our marketing.

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I am savvy regarding marketing. In this instance someone was pissed off I couldn't come so reported me. I'm in the paper, made my own website, have banners and back links, on aw twitter plunk and several others. I prefer not to keep a list that can be found. It's all in my head where it's safe. There are loads more I will advertise on when I get around to it I guess x

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Plunk ?? Haha meant plink

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Before AW I would Google "Cardiff Escort" or "South Wales Escort".  This would always bring up Punterlink (which had a list, but not sure how current) as well as the usual independent and agency sites.  Vivastreet also has local escort/massage services and seems quite popular in this area.

 

For me I like regular - not airbrushed or model-esque - photos, good English, not too crude, some genuine feedback.  Also, when a lady does uses loads of characters to make a naked lady picture, that goes on and on, I stop looking.  It's almost like a CV for me - a profile should fit on one page.

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Swingers sites and the more obvious adult dating sites. A few of our regular contributors came to prostitution via that route, or at least have alluded to it.  

Finding a woman betwixt one or the other can sometimes offer a cost effective interlude, whilst she finally commits.

 

But all this web whacking just fills your headspace and gives you a flabby arse. I suppose I am lucky, as i can hop skip and jump the postcode to several micro brothels, where at least one young oriental will give me a cheerful nod, but if there's nothing doing then i can wait a week. 

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Before AW I would Google "Cardiff Escort" or "South Wales Escort".  This would always bring up Punterlink (which had a list, but not sure how current) as well as the usual independent and agency sites.  Vivastreet also has local escort/massage services and seems quite popular in this area.

 

For me I like regular - not airbrushed or model-esque - photos, good English, not too crude, some genuine feedback.  Also, when a lady does uses loads of characters to make a naked lady picture, that goes on and on, I stop looking.  It's almost like a CV for me - a profile should fit on one page.

Punterlink is what I was referring to when I said plink x

 

Its better not to have your whole profile on one page I think. Its best broken down into tabbed sections that way its easy for the guys to just home in straight on the area of information he is looking for rather than read through the whole profile till he finds it. 

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Someone should be writing all this down and producing an escort's guide to effective marketing with do's and don't's as well.

 

Perhaps it could then expand to include the technical stuff like Dreamweaver and Fusion. Not sure how much the women who sorted such things out for themselves would appreciate an idiot's guide being available though.

 

The worry I would have if an SP scattering my delights all over the internet is losing control of my images. We had this a year ago when a retired lady was having to spend a lot of time getting her images off all sorts of sites.

 

I am puzzled about Chloe's point about AW's stupid removal of her profile being down to naming specific dates for working. Isn't that what their increasingly unused calendar promotes - that everyone works 24/7??

 

Glad she's sorted out though.

 

Back to the OP's request the only thing i can think of straight off is to agree about the off-putting nature of the profiles that are largely devoted to don't do this don't do that. As effective marketing as using photos that clearly show off an SP's less attractive points. Never understood how they look at them and say yes that's one to show me off and bring in the clients...

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Thanks for all the excellent advice, especially on the website and key words stuff. I only work part-time anyway but am just looking into other alternatives to back it up. Once I get a decent website I'll also pay for another listing on here, I already have one field report here but that was from a wile ago.

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Writing "An Escorts Guide to Effective Marketing" is an absolutely excellent idea for someone to do.

 

They could have the bare basics of information on their site and then sell an e-book for $29.

 

The free information on the site would serve as link bait to attract links from other escorts' site and forums which would increase traffic and get clients. The premium e-book would be a nice little passive earner. 

 

You could have an "Escort's Starter Kit" with advice on security, safety, how to hide your identity, tricks of the trade, etc. Is there something like that out there? If not, I bet you could make a fortune from something like that.

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I an sure I actually read one once. It was part of a book an escort had written. Good for a newbor though...

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I tend to browse Escort-Scotland.com, a lot of touring escorts tend to use this along with AW for us in the far north!  There is Escort-England.com but that doesn't appear to used as much.  The main site is Escort-Ireland.com, which has a lot more listings.

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