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What were your views on punters, SP"s and paid for sex prior to embarking on this path?

Were there any road to Damascus moments for anyone?

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1) What were your views on punters, SP"s and paid for sex prior to embarking on this path?

2) Were there any road to Damascus moments for anyone?

1) Don't remember that I thought about it too much, to be honest.  Really, I didn't until...

 

2) the Road to Damascus!!  My conversion occured when I found myself getting more and more depressed with how boring life was becoming (20 years of marriage can do that, you know ;) ).  Reviewed my life to date, and also saw all the future laid out in front of me if I carried on the way I was.  Swiftly decided something had to change. 

 

Looking at what I was satisfied and not satisfied with, I asked myself a range of questions.  One of them was: 'have I had sex with enough women?'

 

Once I had asked myself that question, it was only a matter of about 24 hours or so before I found myself browsing through escort agency sites, about to embark on a whole new adventure.

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I had no idea there were escort websites until I got fed up of going without and curiosity got the better of me.  I thought it was more like soho and street girls and no idea of the agencies being common although I knew about the term call girl, I thought that was just cards in phone boxes.

 

Wasn´t aware of the range of punters from sad youngsters as myself to VIPs and their parties.  Wasn´t aware WGs are so clean, careful and responsible in general, and nice as well half the time.

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I thought all clients were dirty old men wearing beige macs.  I also thought that it would be slutty and sordid and lots of lube needed due to no chemistry or interest from the man in the girls needs.

 

I was wrong on all counts.  They are not ALL like that :D

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remember long long ago seeing hookers in Leeds and Bradford on the street. Manningham Lane in Bradford and Call Lane in Leeds. That would have been in the 1970's.  Too much of a wimp to investigate.

saw street girls in Piccadilly gardens in Manc in mid 90's.  This is still pre internet.

not till i could find hookering sites on search engines (Think Yahoo was the main one then!) did I think I could do this.  a short while after I bit the bullet and did my first one!

The whole thing has given me a raison d'etre again :)

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I thought all clients were dirty old men wearing beige macs.  I also thought that it would be slutty and sordid and lots of lube needed due to no chemistry or interest from the man in the girls needs.

 

I was wrong on all counts.  They are not ALL like that :D

 

I'll have to chuck my beige mac now :(

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I'll have to chuck my beige mac now :(

I'll have it! My old one wore out.

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I had no idea there were escort websites until I got fed up of going without and curiosity got the better of me..............Wasn´t aware WGs are so clean, careful and responsible in general, and nice as well half the time.

I would agree with you there Bonkers. It was only by googling "naughty girls" (or something similar :D) that I discovered last year the proliferation of escort websites. I also agree with you regarding the quality in all respects of most of the ladies that I've met.

I had got to know a single divorced attractive lady who lives a couple of hundred miles away. I needed an excuse to visit somewhere close to where she lived so that I could travel there (alone) without suspicion. I made the arrangements for when my wife was on a cruise with a female friend. Hotel etc booked. Contacted the lady, with an excuse, to discover that she would also be away on holiday that week. The best laid plans etc.

If that idea had not fallen through then I would never have googled "naughty ladies" and I would never have enjoyed the hours of pleasure that I have over the past few months.

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What were your views on punters, SP"s and paid for sex prior to embarking on this path?

Were there any road to Damascus moments for anyone?

 

I started punting at 19 and imagined WGs then called Toms in my area as dirty skanky slags and punters then called Johns as dirty perverted deviants. It sounded right up my street and was and i have been indulging ever since and my views have moved on light years with experience.

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Punters- I thought they should just try harder to have sex without resorting to paying for it. An ex girlfriend always said it was easy to get laid. But she was rich, young and pretty so easy for her to say :)

SP"s- I thought they should try harder to earn cash another way.

I used to enjoy walking round the red light district of my hone city but never saw the attraction of shagging down an alleyway.

I would walk past parlours and saunas and be tempted to go in but never managed to pluck up the courage.

Wasted a lot of money in lap dancing bars.

Did have a one off visit to a sauna ten years ago £70 for a hand job and a rebuttal that I was paying too hard with the girls titties which I wasn't BTW :)

Fast forward ten years and I stumble across a punting site not PN and see a reference to Adult Work dot com and been filling my boots since then.

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Well I'm not rich, young and pretty and I would say it was easy to get laid too.  Just register on a swinging site and get 150 offers over night.  That's what happened to me the first time I joined a few years back.

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Were there any road to Damascus moments for anyone?

I have looked up Damascus in the field reports, but there are none for that town. Oddly enough I also looked on Another Website an there were none there either. I think you may be barking up the wrong tree.

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I have looked up Damascus in the field reports, but there are none for that town. Oddly enough I also looked on Another Website an there were none there either. I think you may be barking up the wrong tree.

Fair point P, fair point.

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Well I'm not rich, young and pretty and I would say it was easy to get laid too.  Just register on a swinging site and get 150 offers over night.  That's what happened to me the first time I joined a few years back.

that's because you're a woman Kate! Far far harder for men, even on swinging sites! 

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I thought this kind of thing was all street walkers and Soho walk ups, seedy men seeing women who had hit rock bottom and had no other options to get money. I thought I should just try harder to find a girlfriend and go without. I was wrong on many counts, and I have met some amazing women along the way, not just sexually but also very smart, worldly, and just a joy to spend company with.

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Views on punters, SPs and paid-for sex have remained exactly the same - everything is fine as long as people are having harmless fun and enjoying themselves. Sometimes seems like the industry could do with better regulation to protect SPs in this country and that most of society / the establishment should get off the moral high horse they sit on. Several countries on the Continent seem to have figured things out way better.

 

The problem seems to be that either one is involved in the industry but can't really be public about it, or one isn't and has no real idea of how it works, but then has strong opinions on its so-called 'evils'.

 

Since sexually open societies generally are not known for heinous gender-based crimes / subjugation of women, while more sexually repressed societies tend to see fairly extreme crimes against women (an example being the recent gangrape of a student in India which is all over the international press, the Pakistani girl who was shot for writing about her society, the state of women in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan), I'm all for more liberated sexual mores.

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I considered seeing an escort a few years ago, before I started properly in October 2011. But I decided against it - not really knowing enough about it. I think I actually found this forum back then as well, but I didn't delve deep enough in to show me what it was like and persuade me to go for it. 

 

Eventually I came back to the idea in about the summer of 2011. Registered on here and Adultwork, read through the forums, field reports, checking who was available in and around my area. I had never realised that 1. So many people did it, 2. How professional it all was and 3. How good a time you could have with some of these girls. I could never have guessed how good a GFE you could get from an escort would be. 

 

I think I was always a bit more open-minded than most people probably are about prostitution - I knew there was more to it than drugged-up street walkers like I just mentioned in another thread, but I didn't know how vital escorts can be to some people. It's not always just about a guy wanting a quick shag, escorts help people like me who struggle socially, shy, nervous around the opposite sex and struggle to meet women. They also help guys stuck in sexless marriages and can provide great intimacy - even if it's still something you have to pay for,

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What were your views on punters, SP"s and paid for sex prior to embarking on this path?

Were there any road to Damascus moments for anyone?

 

My views have changed massively since before I became a punter:

 

Pre-punting I thought:

 

- punters were sad sacks unable to get laid without paying for it

 

- wgs were hideously unattractive, disease ridden, do anything for money, desperate, rip off artists who'd rob you given half a chance

 

- the whole business of sex for sale was a nasty, low down, deeply seedy and dangerous trade full of nothing but victims and all manner of exploiters

 

My views now:

 

- punters - all sorts of people from all walks of life and almost every social and racial demographic - reasons for punting are varied and multi faceted, although a very common motivator for men does seem to be a wife or longterm partner who for whatever reason has come to lose an interest in the physical aspect of their relationship.....the men love their partner nevertheless and dont wish to leave them.....hence...... seek discrete satisfaction in secret, from a paid professional

 

- wgs - again, all sorts of people, all walks of life - a major eye opener for me has been how incredibly attractive a good number of wgs are, not just in terms of looks, but also as people - there is a good deal of professionalism on the London scene (which is the only scene I have any experience of), and a good deal of women who are extremely good at what they do, and you feel safe, welcome, very well looked after and very satisfied after an hour or so in their very capable hands.........i view wgs (the good and genuine ones) as an absolute godsend, providing an essential service and i feel incredibly fortunate to be able to have enjoyed the intimate company of so many utterly gorgeous and highly skilled ladies, in what is a highly pragmatic solution to the issue of the male libido and the desire to spread his seed far and wide 

 

- there are negative and positive sides to the whole business, it certainly isnt perfect, but then again what industry is ?, although the trafficking aspect of the trade is a truly evil side of the coin that needs to be dealt with

there are also plenty of charlatans, unprofessional /lazy /incompetent and/or unsafe operators, scam artists and other sad, tragic or undesirable elements, agencies and/or individuals in amongst all the gems and hard working girls doing their utmost to provide a safe, professional and enjoyable (for them and us) service

 

-id also add that punternet is an absolutely invaluable and impressively comprehensive and informative resource to the whole business of paying for sex in this country

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Prior to embarking on this path i didnt really think much about it and definately nothing negative,but then i've known a few people involved in various adult industries over the years.Add to that,spending a lot of time in soho when i was younger.I've always looked at it as any other service industry.

Now as to how i started.Due to unforseen circumstances my workload went mental,turns out women arent interested in being with someone they might get to see once a fortnight if they're lucky.This lead to many years of being single,lets just say for quite some time,in fact into double digits.Oddly enough this didnt bother me much.Then recently someone i knew passed away.It was a completely avoidable death but he had literally given up abd wanted to die.It's a truly disturbing thing to watch.

On the plus side it did make me want to start enjoying myself again so i cut down on my work and have restared old hobbies and started creeping out again.Unfortunately,after being a recluse for so long you forget certain things,and get nervous in certain situations.Anyone who says its just like riding a bike and you never forget,well i got on a bike after many years and crashed.After fleeing from a few encounters i was wondering what to do and decided on what could basically be called a refresher course.

I've known about and been on AW for quite some time as i've had some friends who have been on there and i've helped them out with stuff.So one night had a look through and finally summoned up the bottle to make the call.Glad i did even though after just four punts ive had three good and one really bad.

Ps i know this probably sounds really weird,but hey

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I was always going to have a punt out of curiosity, in Edinburgh brothels are part of the landscape, and when I was a youth, a visit to Danube st, was a rite of passage, like your first drink in a pub., though my first actual punt was off rue st denis. My view on punters has changed, most are just wanting a shag, you get the impression from the press and wgs memoirs, that all have elaborate and shameful demands. Most wgs are quite friendly,. They are much better looking now, than 30 years ago, imo.

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In my pre-punt days I would never have considered going to see a SP. My approach was that punting is not for me as sex was available in civvie-life. I remember that I didn't have any negative feelings about WG - as far as I was concerned they were just doing a job and for many it was the only way to make good money in a male-dominated world. But I did have a very negative perception of what I thought a punter was. Basically, I considered a punter to be a sad example of the male species who existed in some twilight, seedy world and who was too repulsive or socially inept to be successful with women.

 

But that all gradually changed when my then wife went off sex for a lengthy period. Out of desparation I started to consider seeing a WG - but still didn't take the plunge. I was finally pushed into it when one time my wife admitted that she had shagged someone else. Out of revenge I decided to go out and have an affair - but that wasn't easy with working and having a young family to look after. I didn't have much of a social life in those days. So I took the next best option and went to see a SP. Altho my first punt was a cold and rushed affair, the trill of it started the gradual exploration for me of what the world of punting has to offer. And the rest, as they say, is history :)

 

- there are negative and positive sides to the whole business, it certainly isnt perfect, but then again what industry is ?, although the trafficking aspect of the trade is a truly evil side of the coin that needs to be dealt with

there are also plenty of charlatans, unprofessional /lazy /incompetent and/or unsafe operators, scam artists and other sad, tragic or undesirable elements, agencies and/or individuals in amongst all the gems and hard working girls doing their utmost to provide a safe, professional and enjoyable (for them and us) service

 

-id also add that punternet is an absolutely invaluable and impressively comprehensive and informative resource to the whole business of paying for sex in this country

 

Fully agree on both these points. Punting is a great (but expensive) hobby to get into, as long as you stay clear from the negative side of the industry and make use of PN to help you do this

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In my pre-punt days I would never have considered going to see a SP. My approach was that punting is not for me as sex was available in civvie-life. I remember that I didn't have any negative feelings about WG - as far as I was concerned they were just doing a job and for many it was the only way to make good money in a male-dominated world. But I did have a very negative perception of what I thought a punter was. Basically, I considered a punter to be a sad example of the male species who existed in some twilight, seedy world and who was too repulsive or socially inept to be successful with women.

 

This is pretty much what I felt when I was in my teens and early twenties. What changed for me? As I got older sex became harder to find in civilian life.  One day when I was still living in London I got a number from a phone booth (as one did in those days) and so here I am, 'fessing up on PN 25 years or so later. :)

Here's to the next 25! :D

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Aged 16/17 I remember walking around Soho and thinking it was really seedy but not ever considering going into one of the walk ups.

 

Aged 30 driving into the town on Saturday night to pick the missus up and seeing the 'WGs' along the road side, never really gave it a thought. Any mention of the road where they worked was greeted with nudge nudge and comments of 'oh yes...'.

 

I never really thought about how/what/why these girls were there apart from a slight yearning to go with some of them.

 

Single again at 32, I drove down aforementioned road, stopped, wound down the window, the lass got in, we did the deed and there was no looking back.

 

Now, 55, after close on 25 years of punting, I can't recall how I felt then. I still harbour thoughts about picking up street girls some of whom look really good and suitably tarty, but refrain.

 

Perhaps this is a topic for mumsnet rather than for this forum?

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It was slightly different for me being brought up around the world of the stage and entertainment I have been around strippers etc most of my life, so knew that a lot of them were just normal women trying to make ends meet. The men that visited them however in my mind were desperate sad men.

I still found the whole scene fascinating and for years due to my own high sex drive wanted to dabble in it, simply because I found it so naughty and wish I'd done it a hell of a lot sooner than I did.

Like others have said once I did get into it my view of most men changed dramatically. I say most because I still feel/know there are some sad desperate and not so pleasant men out there. These days thanks to the internet it is far more professional and I think becoming more acceptable to most.

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I had no strong opinions either way before punting.  My first punt was in my mid-twenties - I would see the "massage" ads in the back of the local paper and was curious, and one day decided to try, purely for the illicit thrill of it.  I was nervous of course, and I suppose beforehand there was a slight niggling worry that I might be about to get ripped off by a criminal (of course I wasn't).

 

All my early punts were fairly vanilla, with indies from the local paper, but I was lucky that all the ladies I saw in the early days were lovely and considerate, and it simply didn't feel sleazy or wrong at all.

 

It was later in life I developed a taste for sleaze......

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