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Photos Used Without Consent C/righted So Stolen

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Does anyone know what the procedure is for people stealing your photos for use?

i gave up work 2 years ago and my photos are being used without my consent.

the photographer who took them was old school and made sure i owned them and it is a previous employer.

Upset is not the word, its 1am and i cant do anything about it, can anybody help?

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FAST have, rather stupidly, used the term "theft" for the use of unlicenced software - "Theft" and "Steal" are defined in the Theft Act 1968, and do not cover what I think you are being hit by.

 

For a start, the photos were taken by a photographer, who owned the copyright in them. You say that you "made sure I owned them". How? Did the photographer assign to you, in writing, the copyright of each and every photograph?

 

If he did, who is now using those photographs and how?

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Contact the person using your pictures without permission and ask why they think they can use them.

 

If they have no good reason to be able to use them, ask them to stop and remove them.

 

Do this in writing, letter, email, fax, text.  This gives you evidence.

 

If they are not removed;

 

If it is on the Internet, find out where the site is being hosted, contact the hosting company and explain the situation and ask them to remove them, this is where your evidence will be useful.

 

If it is in paper based print, contact the publisher.

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Contact the person using your pictures without permission and ask why they think they can use them.

 

If they have no good reason to be able to use them, ask them to stop and remove them.

 

Do this in writing, letter, email, fax, text.  This gives you evidence.

 

If they are not removed;

 

If it is on the Internet, find out where the site is being hosted, contact the hosting company and explain the situation and ask them to remove them, this is where your evidence will be useful.

 

If it is in paper based print, contact the publisher.

Good advice this. You were a bit vague in your original post Amy. Is it the photographer using these pics? If so did he sign them over to you prior to their use? I'm assuming not. If that's the case then you have a strong case here as in the UK photographs count as personal information stored in a digital form - this can be reported to the Office of the Information Commissioner.

http://www.ico.gov.uk/

Normally a strong email to the person doing it threatening to take it further (especially contacting their host's) does the trick.

Good luck.

Mods don't know what happened with the post above can you remove please.

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Contact the person using your pictures without permission and ask why they think they can use them.

 

If they have no good reason to be able to use them, ask them to stop and remove them.

 

Do this in writing, letter, email, fax, text.  This gives you evidence.

 

If they are not removed;

 

If it is on the Internet, find out where the site is being hosted, contact the hosting company and explain the situation and ask them to remove them, this is where your evidence will be useful.

 

If it is in paper based print, contact the publisher.

 

Yes good advice. Desire Parties now gone as far as i know just put pictures of WGs on their site as working at their parties when they werent, doing a monthly rota that was blatant lies. A couple of WGs i knew many times asked for them to be removed but they werent for a very long time. The party owner was scum who didnt care, and obviously punters had arrived to find presumably other WGs at the parties and he relied on them staying and punting anyway.

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There is law, and then, again, there is lore! Or, there is theory and there is practice.

This is, obviously, every ex-WG's nightmare - she has "gone straight", covered her tracks, got a job or a husband, or even both, and thinks that her past is past and done with.

Now up pops a photograph!
How sexy is/are the photo(s)?  How obviously escort or porno mag?

How and where? (And how does she know that her photograph has popped up? Has a "friend" gloatingly told her?)

Unless the photograph is undoubtedly her, because of very specific tattoo, or birth-mark, or amputation, I think I'd say, "Gosh, yes, it does look just like me, doesn't it? Extraordinary to have a double, as if an identical twin!"

If there is no doubt but that it is her, then the question is, obviously, how to get the toothpaste back into the tube.

Did she get a written assignment of the copyright of every photograph taken? She retired three years ago, so presumably the photos weren't taken the night before her last "date" on the game? Could the photographer have used film? If so, where is it? If, however, as is more probable, he used a digital camera, he'll have, surely, taken many more exposures than were used. Here, IMHO, lies a gaping black hole for any careful lady! She requires an assignment, and, lo and behold, the photographer hands over a CD or DVD, with a written assignment of all the image files on the disc. What about all the other shots? If he is a nasty piece of work, I think he keeps them for afters!

[With hindsight, I think that a lady, to be quite safe, insists that the photographer uses her own camera, which she loads with a new, large capacity, memory card, and he hands back immediately after the shoot, without any download. Of course that robs the lady of the Photoshopping of the best half dozen, which is usually part of the deal.]  

However, to get back to the instant case:

The photos have been printed, and are being passed round with a snigger in the pub?

or,

The photos can be seen on www.sexy-eskort4U.ru, advertising Natalia, the anal queen?

or,

The photos can be seen in last week's Woman's Illustrated, in an advertisement for a new, improved, vitamin enriched shampoo?

or,

The photos came, out of the blue, attached to an unwarranted demand with menaces (s21 of the 1968 Act).

or

...
If her photos are being used by another escort on a web-site, I rather think I'd leave them there - after all, they depict the escort, not the nice lady next door, don't they?


In the latter case, the lady should go, at once, to the Police. Following SashaB's sad experience of Police integrity, I think she wants an assurance from a DI for a minimum, that her identity will be protected, and that neither she, nor her partner, will be hit with POCA.

In all the other cases, I think that she laughs, and then consults a solicitor who specialises in copyright law. This will cost her money, but will be worth it. I think that she also needs to pass the word round that the photographer cannot be trusted. It is totally illogical, but I rather think that very few proud fathers would be happy for their virgin daughter's white wedding to be shot through a lens that has taken close in hard core shots! I'd be slightly surprised if there are many photographers who make a living entirely out of escort photography. I suspect that for most this is a lucrative side-line. Perhaps some escort shoots are cash jobs (which might explain why so many escort photos are shewn by the Exif meta-data to have been taken at odd hours of the night) which are not declared to HMCR, in which case a quiet telephone call might get a degree of vengeance:


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With a little more detail, I, or others with more understanding of intellectual property law, may be able to give better advice.

HTH

 

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Contact the people using them and tell them to remove them immediatly and threaten them with naming and shaming on every escort forum and directory on the internet...

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I've heard of punters collecting profile pictures of WG's they've visited,but I don't think there's any law against copying photo's from the internet and storing them for the old w*nk bank.

 

I hope you find a way to resolve this issue

 

 

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... and threaten them with naming and shaming on every escort forum and directory on the internet...

 

The problem with this, I'd have thought, is that the one thing an ex-WG wants to avoid is advertising her wicked past life?

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The problem with this, I'd have thought, is that the one thing an ex-WG wants to avoid is advertising her wicked past life?

if the pictures are back on the internet already then she may as well turn it to her advantage and threaten to name and shame. It happened to girls i knew and usually a phone call sorted out the problem. Often if its an agency then the person running the agency doesnt know that its not the girl in the pictures if she doesnt ever actually meet the girls. I have worked in one girl flats where I never ever met the person running the show, I was just told where the key to the front door was hidden and to return it there when I left.

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Am I just being old and tetchy, or does anybody else agree that if someone asks a question here, they should bloody come back for the answers?

 

This lady, whose nic suggests that she has a fairly high opinion of herself, registered here, made just one post, and hasn't logged back in again. I agree that she may have lurked, and read, without logging in.

 

I'd say that was basic bad manners.  Anybody else like to express an opinion?

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Am I just being old and tetchy, or does anybody else agree that if someone asks a question here, they should bloody come back for the answers?

 

This lady, whose nic suggests that she has a fairly high opinion of herself, registered here, made just one post, and hasn't logged back in again. I agree that she may have lurked, and read, without logging in.

 

I'd say that was basic bad manners.  Anybody else like to express an opinion?

Yes, broadly in agreement, though she may be waiting for the sum total of our wisdom before returning to thank us fulsomely - unless she's also far too busy for people generally as well as idiots.

I remember the same thing happened a year or so back to English Chloe. She contacted the delinquent site indignantly and they took them down immediately. 

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Am I just being old and tetchy, or does anybody else agree that if someone asks a question here, they should bloody come back for the answers?

 

This lady, whose nic suggests that she has a fairly high opinion of herself, registered here, made just one post, and hasn't logged back in again. I agree that she may have lurked, and read, without logging in.

 

I'd say that was basic bad manners.  Anybody else like to express an opinion?

 

Obviously, we are all idiots! :D

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What I never get with these kinds of posts is that a wedding photographer charges £1000 for a wedding and still keeps the copyright. The couple get a selection of the photos with minimal photoshopping and copies costing alsmost as much as the originals..

 

Scanario 2: A girl turns up a studio, gets her kit off, has some photos taken and expects the images to be fully photoshopped and also have full copyright for next to nothing.

 

Who's the idiot?

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Scanario 2: A girl turns up a studio, gets her kit off, has some photos taken and expects the images to be fully photoshopped and also have full copyright for next to nothing.

 

Who's the idiot?

 

I take it that your credit cards are still hot from a daughter's wedding?

 

My own wedding photographer waited five years after the hitching, and then offered to sell me the plates (yes, it was that long ago) for no great sum, with which I think the copyright must have come, although I haven't got any paper work now.

 

The point that you make is perfectly legitimate, although a wedding probably takes two days (half day for taking instructions and the recce - whole day for the ceremony & piss-up after - half day for putting up on web-site, watermarked, lo-res and photoshoppping specified number for album) whereas an escort shoot should be possible to finish in three hours, if done in studio, but I entirely agree that an escort should expect to pay over and above the normal fee an additional whack for the copyright in every image taken. I also, respectfully, think that escorts should realise that getting total legal control over their photographs will be worth every penny (or pound) that it costs.

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