Xenia

Independent Escorts Websites...is It Worth It For Wgs To Have It?

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Yes, I do understand that having a websites for WGs does not cost much. If she can maintain it herself (update her info, pictures, announcements, tours, etc) it just usually cost something like £80-£150 per year for the proper reliable adult hosting without the ads.

In a way: she only need to have one 1 hour appointment or two 30 min appointments, in a year to pay for hosting....theoretically that is.

 

Sounds easy enough. However, since an Adultwork took over, I do really think its not worth to have a personal website, as the profits after keeping and maintaining personal webby are almost non existent. At least that the case with my own website and few others of my colleagues. Most, if not all of the work coming from Adultwork, not from the personal website!

 

Ok: a bit of history. Prior Adultwork monopolised majority of Adullt industry in UK, sometime in 2007/2009, my website had about 250-350 visitors in a day. (visitors, not hits!) Number of the visitors to my website kept reducing during the years, even though amount of the adversing was rising. Now, the amount of the visitors reduced to about 40-60 day. Its a drop of almost 80%!

 

If course I do understand the reason for it: because most of the guys accessing Wgs info through Adultwork, instead of theirs personal website. (if they have one). In the very infant days of Adultwork, (2004/05) I had about 20-30 people per day accessing  my profile. Now its well over 300 per day!

 

Its just shifted! Most people now finding profiles on the Adultwork, instead of finding the personal escorts websites.

 

I was quite curious and looked in the public displayed trackers of other very popular escorts. (just to see, if I am am doing something wrong). I found that theirs number of the visitors about the same as mine (around 40/80 per day).

 

As far as I know I did not had a single client who I had a booking with and who only only find me through my personal website during last year or so.

 

Yes, I know it is very difficult to know how clients find you.. However I only seen 10/11 new clients during last year, (which make it easier to establish how they found you) and all of them found me through Adultwork. (or so they said). Not even a single one through my personal website or links to it through various directories and paid for ads (including PNSPD).

 

As far as I know I had not made a penny profit after paying £90 for my website hosting as well as my time to maintain it.

 

Well... last month one guy did mention, that the reason he booked me, because he knew I was genuine, as I had a link to my website from Adultwork profile.  However I only seen him once for 1 hour minimum booking, so in a way I made £40 profit in a year from it. :-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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My webby cost just over £50, I have full control, no ads or stupid Flash.

I don't agree that AW can get you all the appointments you need/want. It's very limiting and limited.

 

I can post whatever I want on my website, Blog included. AW are very selective, and can suspend you for one wrong word (and won't tell you which one!) on your Blog. Or website. They won't tell you what! Or why!

 

You have to adhere to AW's rules. On your own webby, you can make your own rules.

 

Reason for your drop in web site hits? PROBABLY the recession.

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My webby cost just over £50, I have full control, no ads or stupid Flash.

I don't agree that AW can get you all the appointments you need/want. It's very limiting and limited.

 

I can post whatever I want on my website, Blog included. AW are very selective, and can suspend you for one wrong word (and won't tell you which one!) on your Blog. Or website. They won't tell you what! Or why!

 

You have to adhere to AW's rules. On your own webby, you can make your own rules.

 

Reason for your drop in web site hits? PROBABLY the recession.

Im in total agreement here. Also would like to add that not every guy trusts aw because of its rep for scammers and also some guys whilst using aw also like to visit a girl who also has a proper website in addition to the aw profile as to them it makes them feel she is more likely to be "real" and give a damn about her reputation. Not that many girls will actually change names and websites as fast as some of the dodgy peeps change usernames on aw. 

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I agree with Chloe and Cat on the points they have made.  I get most of my business from my own site rather than from AW.  You shouldn't keep all your eggs in one basket, as AW are notorious for removing your profile for no apparent reason.

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I agree with Chloe and Cat on the points they have made.  I get most of my business from my own site rather than from AW.  You shouldn't keep all your eggs in one basket, as AW are notorious for removing your profile for no apparent reason.

 and there is another very good reason to have your website....profile removal. I think the points for keeping a website are going to be vast by the end of this thread 

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My website costs very little to run, apart from my time. Actual monetary cost is about £10 a year or something like that. Majority of costs are paying to advertise on different directories and websites, some are free, some are not. Some charge a little, some a lot more. I'd say 50% of bookings come to me via AW, 50% from other sources such as directories/forums/search engines.

 

I  have stopped linking my AW profile to my site, sure guys can find me with a quick search but I was finding a lot of dross was coming through from AW, so wanted to keep a little bit of a gap between them and it works to some extent.

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an observation I have made in the last two months of being back "on the bed" is that in my previous incarnation as chloe kisses i had about 7 bookings put through the aw booking system in the whole year or two i was using aw. This time around I have had more than that already in just 10 weeks. Why are the guys keener to use the booking system nowadays. One feeling i have on the subject is that perhaps they have come across so many scammers or bad sps that the girl knowing the booking is "in the system" she may be less likely to give the guy a bad time in case of bad feedback. I have had several guys make comments as too how there are "such a huge  number of new foreign girls" on aw and they clearly feel they arent to be trusted 100% as to wether they girls are doing this job because they actually want too. 

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My website costs very little to run, apart from my time. Actual monetary cost is about £10 a year or something like that. Majority of costs are paying to advertise on different directories and websites, some are free, some are not. Some charge a little, some a lot more. I'd say 50% of bookings come to me via AW, 50% from other sources such as directories/forums/search engines.

directories are a must I think. When I added my profile to punterlink back in the day my phone calls increased fantastically. Its a combination of using all the tools there are going i think for optimum bookings, paper ads, sites such as pent, the directories, a website and aw x

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Speaking as a gentleman caller I would agree with the points raised by the ladies and urge you to keep your website.

I've just visited your website and, like most websites, it gives a much better impression of you than your adultwork profile. The profiles are all basically from the same production line. A personal website gives you the opportunity which you have taken, like many other ladies, to produce an excellent website. The difference between your adultwork profile and your website is vast.

I would like to make a suggestion which also relates to many other ladies. The link on your profile to your website. It's hidden away at the bottom of your profile like everyone else. Put a specific bullet point higher up much nearer the top of the profile. Bring specific attention to your website. I'm sure that more people would visit your website via your profile than do at present.

Two other points that come to mind are that (a) 40/60 visitors a day doesn't sound bad to me (but then I'm not an escort) and (B) if you look at the cost of your website against your yearly turnover then surely it must be infinitesimal.

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I've been running a website for someone else for just under a year now, and whilst this person had 4186 hits on AW site since Christmas, its the personal website that's making them the money.  Outside of bookings a lot of that comes from affiliates, its invaluable for this person.

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Yes, I do understand that having a websites for WGs does not cost much. If she can maintain it herself (update her info, pictures, announcements, tours, etc) it just usually cost something like £80-£150 per year for the proper reliable adult hosting without the ads.

In a way: she only need to have one 1 hour appointment or two 30 min appointments, in a year to pay for hosting....theoretically that is.

 

Sounds easy enough. However, since an Adultwork took over, I do really think its not worth to have a personal website, as the profits after keeping and maintaining personal webby are almost non existent. At least that the case with my own website and few others of my colleagues. Most, if not all of the work coming from Adultwork, not from the personal website!

 

Ok: a bit of history. Prior Adultwork monopolised majority of Adullt industry in UK, sometime in 2007/2009, my website had about 250-350 visitors in a day. (visitors, not hits!) Number of the visitors to my website kept reducing during the years, even though amount of the adversing was rising. Now, the amount of the visitors reduced to about 40-60 day. Its a drop of almost 80%!

 

If course I do understand the reason for it: because most of the guys accessing Wgs info through Adultwork, instead of theirs personal website. (if they have one). In the very infant days of Adultwork, (2004/05) I had about 20-30 people per day accessing  my profile. Now its well over 300 per day!

 

Its just shifted! Most people now finding profiles on the Adultwork, instead of finding the personal escorts websites.

 

I was quite curious and looked in the public displayed trackers of other very popular escorts. (just to see, if I am am doing something wrong). I found that theirs number of the visitors about the same as mine (around 40/80 per day).

 

As far as I know I did not had a single client who I had a booking with and who only only find me through my personal website during last year or so.

 

Yes, I know it is very difficult to know how clients find you.. However I only seen 10/11 new clients during last year, (which make it easier to establish how they found you) and all of them found me through Adultwork. (or so they said). Not even a single one through my personal website or links to it through various directories and paid for ads (including PNSPD).

 

As far as I know I had not made a penny profit after paying £90 for my website hosting as well as my time to maintain it.

 

Well... last month one guy did mention, that the reason he booked me, because he knew I was genuine, as I had a link to my website from Adultwork profile.  However I only seen him once for 1 hour minimum booking, so in a way I made £40 profit in a year from it. :-)

Xenia, I can't believe you are asking this!

A personal website gives credibility.  It means you are taking the time and trouble to market yourself and indicates to your punter that you are 'of some worth' when doing his research.

It allows you the licence to say what you want without having your hands tied down by not being able to use certain key words such as availability which is one of our ten commandment words.

What if they take your AW site down with no reason (I have heard this happens and removal of your credits also)

I pay £5.99 per month with no adverts on my site and I can do what I like on there at any time.

 

Clients see us from all sorts of research crtieria - just putting some words into Google finds us, reviews are another and website another.

 

If I thought I had to rely on AW clients only it would be a very sad day for me as they are as much 'hit and miss' as some of the girls on there.

 

i am sure I can think of more to say, but I have a plumber in giving me a quote....................  and a cup of tea waiting.. x

 

Sorry just wanted to add that Dexi said it all before and echo her post absolutement!

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I am sure I can think of more to say, but I have a plumber in giving me a quote....................  

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I haven't heard it called that before......................:D

I'm sorry. I've composed two serious posts this morning and the water pressure is getting to me. If I'm not careful I'll sink to the level of some others. I don't want to plunge in too deep.

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Speaking as a gentleman caller I would agree with the points raised by the ladies and urge you to keep your website.

I've just visited your website and, like most websites, it gives a much better impression of you than your adultwork profile. The profiles are all basically from the same production line. A personal website gives you the opportunity which you have taken, like many other ladies, to produce an excellent website. The difference between your adultwork profile and your website is vast.

I would like to make a suggestion which also relates to many other ladies. The link on your profile to your website. It's hidden away at the bottom of your profile like everyone else. Put a specific bullet point higher up much nearer the top of the profile. Bring specific attention to your website. I'm sure that more people would visit your website via your profile than do at present.

Two other points that come to mind are that (a) 40/60 visitors a day doesn't sound bad to me (but then I'm not an escort) and ( :cool: if you look at the cost of your website against your yearly turnover then surely it must be infinitesimal.

mm not sure if you are talking to me, one of the other ladies or us in general. I have text wording on the front page of my profile at the top saying there is a link to my website at the bottom of the page though xx

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mm not sure if you are talking to me, one of the other ladies or us in general. I have text wording on the front page of my profile at the top saying there is a link to my website at the bottom of the page though xx

I wasn't talking about any lady in particular just adultwork profiles in general. I have just had a look at your profile and how you have brought attention to your website link is the sort of thing I had in mind. Seperated from the text above and below and in capitals. Although, and this is nit-picking, if the information was in a banner like your " in Milton Keyes..........every week" it would stand out even more and could be put a little lower without losing the impact.

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Agree with most of what my peers have said about websites, they are worth it and do add credibility I think and you have so much more freedom with your own site than on AW. 

 

I suspect the drop on Xenia's website is due to a change in the business over the years (more women, less money to be spent). Since I have had my website and I have worked hard on SEO I have had an increasing number of hits via google which lets face it is what everyone does when they want something and don't know how to find it! Remember most men are not like Punternet chaps who see this as a hobby and have learned about research etc. Many are doing this because they have a nugget of an idea and have no idea of AW or how to go about finding a woman, so they google! 

 

Also, if a man has seen you on AW, met you before or has a recommendation he may well just google your name at a later date and a good website will come up in that search. if you are attached to directories that will hugely increase the sites google will find. 

 

I have actually been dithering about going the other way and deleting my AW profile because of the increasing number of idiot calls I get and concentrating more on my website SEO and paid adverts on other directories. Without wishing to hijack Xenia's thread (it's all useful food for thought for everyone!), does anyone have any thoughts on this?

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Thank you all for your responses. Sorry I am not answering individually.

 

I do agree that website certainly gives credibility, its just benefit from it much much less then it was few years ago. (IMHO).

 

I partly disagree they number of visitors declined because of the recession and increased number of Wgs. It does affect it, but not on the large scale. In fact combined number of visitors on Adultwork profile and personal website increased during the last years.

Ammount of the enquiries increased also (with vast drop of quality!). Unfortunately vast majority of them comming from Adultwork. The problem that most of them are useless. Personal website definetly attracts better quality of the emails and subsequently appointments.

 

Of course ideally (and I am sure I am not the only one Wg thinking that) I would love for Adultwork to vanish. lol. That way, visitors will be back looking on the personal websites. Unfortunately I can not see that it will happen soon. So the only option left its to bite a bullet and advertise there, even though its very restricting, unfair, full of scamms, with dreadful costumer service, but all other directories fail in significance in comparison with AW in the amount of work they bring.

 

I know few of my WG friends never even check the stats of theirs website, and were quite oblivious, that the number of the visitors reduced dramatically during the last few years.

 

Gibbs: yes, you can mention on AW profile to look for the link to the personal website down on the page. However in my personal experience if you do so you will risk your profile terminated as well as loosing credits. It cost £1 a day to provide a link to your website. If you run out of credits, and the link its not displayed AW treat this statement as an invite for clients to search for your website on the net, and they don't like it!

I once stopped paying them for this service when I was going away for a few weeks, however I forgot to remove phrase: "Please find link to my website on the bottom of the page". They removed my profile, and told me that I can not do that, if the link not displayed. (ie, I did not paid for it to be displayed).

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I wasn't talking about any lady in particular just adultwork profiles in general. I have just had a look at your profile and how you have brought attention to your website link is the sort of thing I had in mind. Seperated from the text above and below and in capitals. Although, and this is nit-picking, if the information was in a banner like your " in Milton Keyes..........every week" it would stand out even more and could be put a little lower without losing the impact.

adultwork deletes your profile if you announce too mucn your availability on your profile, its happened to me once already, you need to be careful with it.

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Speaking as a gentleman caller I would agree with the points raised by the ladies and urge you to keep your website.

I've just visited your website and, like most websites, it gives a much better impression of you than your adultwork profile. The profiles are all basically from the same production line. A personal website gives you the opportunity which you have taken, like many other ladies, to produce an excellent website. The difference between your adultwork profile and your website is vast.

I would like to make a suggestion which also relates to many other ladies. The link on your profile to your website. It's hidden away at the bottom of your profile like everyone else. Put a specific bullet point higher up much nearer the top of the profile. Bring specific attention to your website. I'm sure that more people would visit your website via your profile than do at present.

Two other points that come to mind are that (a) 40/60 visitors a day doesn't sound bad to me (but then I'm not an escort) and ( :cool: if you look at the cost of your website against your yearly turnover then surely it must be infinitesimal.

I have a pretty good idea that using your website address anywhere else but the small links section provided at the bottom of profiles, could get your profile removed. Also unless you are paying for Available Today adultwork will penalise you for stating availability in the strap line.

 

I've just clicked through to Chloe's AW profile from her website and it's showing as inactive. I hope this isn't the result of drawing attention to it.

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I have a pretty good idea that using your website address anywhere else but the small links section provided at the bottom of profiles, could get your profile removed. Also unless you are paying for Available Today adultwork will penalise you for stating availability in the strap line.

 

I've just clicked through to Chloe's AW profile from her website and it's showing as inactive. I hope this isn't the result of drawing attention to it.

 

No its all cool and sorted. The link was broken is all so I have relinked and now it works again. My profile is still active and in the local section but thankyou for the tweet letting me know or I may never have notices lol xx

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I have a pretty good idea that using your website address anywhere else but the small links section provided at the bottom of profiles, could get your profile removed. Also unless you are paying for Available Today adultwork will penalise you for stating availability in the strap line.

 

 

I don't think many punters realise just how heavily controlled AW profiles are in terms of what we can include - using the words 'available', 'today' or 'tomorrow' anywhere, not just in the strapline may get your profile dumped and there's a lean towards the same with named days of the week too (I've had blogs deleted for less when I've copied and pasted them over from my proper blog and not checked carefully enough). And God help you if you acknowledge that the rest of the Interrnet exists :lol:.

 

I don't link to my website as I like to know where my enquiries come from, and most of my business comes via my site rather than AW anyway (partly because a lot of the places I work don't use AW, amongst other reasons) but I think the hosting fees the OP mentions sound like a lot - I pay £20 per year for adult-friendly hosting with Amberhosts and that's it.

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I don't think many punters realise just how heavily controlled AW profiles are in terms of what we can include - using the words 'available', 'today' or 'tomorrow' anywhere, not just in the strapline may get your profile dumped and there's a lean towards the same with named days of the week too (I've had blogs deleted for less when I've copied and pasted them over from my proper blog and not checked carefully enough). And God help you if you acknowledge that the rest of the Interrnet exists :lol:.

 

I don't link to my website as I like to know where my enquiries come from, and most of my business comes via my site rather than AW anyway (partly because a lot of the places I work don't use AW, amongst other reasons) but I think the hosting fees the OP mentions sound like a lot - I pay £20 per year for adult-friendly hosting with Amberhosts and that's it.

I presume thats to get you to pay for the available today green light? If so that could explain the massive clear out Aw had recently

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Perhaps this would be an opportune moment to ask Galahad if he is able to give an update on his escort directory ideas.

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I presume thats to get you to pay for the available today green light? If so that could explain the massive clear out Aw had recently

 

That's definitely it, as far as I know. Back in the days when I first joined it was fine to mention/link to your site (mine used to say something like 'please visit my personal site which has full details and my contact number', or something similar), but of course they cottoned on that they were losing put on the £1 a day phone number display, so now that's not allowed. I only show mine when I'm touring, since it's a complete waste of money when I'm at home - it may not be much but I've got better things to spend five or seven quid a week on.

 

The massive clearout (and funnily enough it crossed my mind yesterday and today - I'm away at the moment somewhere where AW's fairly well used, and I noticed how many more of the punter's feedbacks seemed to be left by people who were 'no longer active') is because they're trying to bully people into 'verifying', starting with new members (and making it very difficult for them to put up a new profile without doing this) but also demanding that longer standing members suddenly do it, and even ones who have 'verified' already, on pain of being dumped off the site and losing any credits they've earned. There is a new policy that some non-British people will have their nationalities displayed at the bottom of their page whether they like it or not, and I daresay there's more in the post.

 

Perhaps this would be an opportune moment to ask Galahad if he is able to give an update on his escort directory ideas.

 

Given the above, I think that's an excellent idea.

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I presume thats to get you to pay for the available today green light? If so that could explain the massive clear out Aw had recently

the green light costs £5 per day to use. to be in the local section costs £1.50. To have your phone number displayed costs £1. To be listed in the featured section, of which there are only a number of spaces available, costs anywhere from 15 ish up to well in the £40 ish depending on which date and how near to the date you are booking the featured section. The escort of the day is a bidding war where I have looked fairly often to see the bids well over £100 per day at the time of me looking, guaranteed to rise drastically and speedily as the bidding time draws to a close. 

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I suppose you could debate whether the internet is doing what it used to do. Regardless of why its being used.

 

I am a sole trader and I stopped having a website as it needed a full scale websearch linking and advertising setup to point punters to what i do. that would mean becoming an employer to deal with the work, rather than plodding along on my own.

 

So as a wg is more or less a sole trader she can't exceed her capabilities, and one web site with a few links will probably just give her enough to deal with on her own.

 

But the honeymoon days of the net are over. We are swamped with adverts, popups, general interference, and overwhelming choice and distraction.

 

I need customers who are focussed on what they want me to do for them, not people dreaming or speculating, or quote comparing. having gone back to simple leafletting and getting startups, most of my work is now by word of mouth and reccommendation. I get by, and it suits me like that.

 

But the net just created nuisance calls from all sorts of people, and less work than by leafletting.

 

Not that we would imagine our favourite wg to be stomping the local postcode dressed in underwear or anything.......

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