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Do The Uk Law/police Turn A Blind Eye On On-Line Escort Services/prostitution?

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there are many websites that offer escort services where you pay for the "companionship" of girls. But we all know that we are basically paying for sex. does the police turn a blind eye on this? 

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Well seeing as it's legal to pay for sex in the UK (unless the woman is trafficked, forced or underage) then of course the police don't take any notice of escort services on websites.

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Well seeing as it's legal to pay for sex in the UK (unless the woman is trafficked, forced or underage) then of course the police don't take any notice of escort services on websites.

But what would happen if the UK follows the swedish law and makes prositution illegal? would they still turn a blind eye on online escort services?

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Well seeing as it's legal to pay for sex in the UK (unless the woman is trafficked, forced or underage) then of course the police don't take any notice of escort services on websites.

 

MinxyLydia is 100% right here, and I'd add, of course that the same applies to paying for sex with a man if that's what floats your boat.

 

To be fair to the OP's apparent ignorance, many ladies web-sites include language to the effect of, "you just pay for my company, anything else that may happen is spontaneous" - I think that some of these are simply US-American web site designs, which hope, pathetically, that they'll provide some protection against the Police over there, and at least one lady here has told me that she uses such words, so she can't be done for soliciting - I don't think she believed me when I told her that soliciting comes under the Street Offences  Act 1959, under which, "It shall be an offence for a common prostitute to loiter or solicit in a street or public place for the purpose of prostitution."  A web site may be many things, but a "street or public place" it isn't.

 

So as Minxy says, no need to turn a blind eye to something that is entirely legal. Managing a brothel, of course, is wholly different, and, there, it does often seem that the Polis do turn a blind eye for a good few years until they are satisfied that someone has built up a good enough kitty to hit with POCA.

 

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But what would happen if the UK follows the swedish law and makes prositution illegal? would they still turn a blind eye on online escort services?

 

Hang on, I'll just fire up my crystal ball.

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Once upon a time on a planet called "Earth" there was no such thing as the internet. Sp and punter managed to find each other and have a right royal time.

 

If the laws were changed and internet advertising looked like there was a possibility of being banned Im sure guys would scramble their resources and log the numbers of every girl on their to do list. Lets face it, we would know as soon as the proposal was put forward. Escorts would scramble to change their websites to have no escorting words/phrases/references or nuddy/underwear pix to avoid the webcrawlers about to be unleashed to trace them and close them down. Directories would be wise to disable their reviews or to simply remove all website addresses/numbers so that they couldnt be used to help the searchers find the naughty site domains. It would mean finding the lady in question online yourselves rather than just click a link but hey, if you want us to still be there when your feeling horny then...

 

Contact mags would once again flourish I guess

 

It would be a huge pain in the ass and would take time to transition and for us all to get back to normal business/punting wise, with guys sticking to either the numbers they already have or ones passed to each other by some means but the industry, even if it momentarily floundered, would prevail x

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But what would happen if the UK follows the swedish law and makes prositution illegal? 

 

Don't worry. It's not going to happen in E&W. It really isn't and I didn't need Claire's crystal ball to tell me that.

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Don't worry. It's not going to happen in E&W. It really isn't

 

On the other hand I have a strong suspicion that the over-puffed up County Council which produced the Breast Feeding (Scotland) Act and the Dog Fouling (Scotland) Act will in due course get round to passing Rhoda's shabby bill.

 

The obvious consequence, if you are right, will be to double traffic on the M74 down to Carlisle, and on to Preston, Manchester etc.

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On the other hand I have a strong suspicion that the over-puffed up County Council which produced the Breast Feeding (Scotland) Act and the Dog Fouling (Scotland) Act will in due course get round to passing Rhoda's shabby bill.

 

The obvious consequence, if you are right, will be to double traffic on the M74 down to Carlisle, and on to Preston, Manchester etc.

Once again making the high road to England the fairest prospect a Scotsman sees? :)

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But what would happen if the UK follows the swedish law and makes prositution illegal? would they still turn a blind eye on online escort services?

 

Your question may be based again on a misconception. The Swedish law has not made the selling of sex illegal, just the purchase. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Sweden

 

In those circumstances I see no reason for the police to be going after the online advertising. 

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Don't worry. It's not going to happen in E&W. It really isn't and I didn't need Claire's crystal ball to tell me that.

It seems to me very unlikely that the Swedish/proposed Scottish law will be on the genda in England and Wales if the tories win the next election. But if labour win, I think there’s a real risk that this will be attempted. When Harman made speeches on this subject to the Labour party conference, she received standing ovations, so there’s a lot of anti-sex industry feeling in the Labour party. She’s still around, and so are her supporters, and I expect she will be at the next election. I’d be interested to know why Silverado is confident that this won’t happen – I hope he’s right.

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It seems to me very unlikely that the Swedish/proposed Scottish law will be on the genda in England and Wales if the tories win the next election. But if labour win, I think there’s a real risk that this will be attempted. When Harman made speeches on this subject to the Labour party conference, she received standing ovations, so there’s a lot of anti-sex industry feeling in the Labour party. She’s still around, and so are her supporters, and I expect she will be at the next election. I’d be interested to know why Silverado is confident that this won’t happen – I hope he’s right.

I would also be interested to know why Silverado is so confident. Like you, I hope that he is right but unless I have some very compelling evidence I shall assume, again like you, that when Labour get back in, unless the landscape has changed a great deal, she and her chums will be at it again.

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I would also be interested to know why Silverado is so confident......

 

 

It appears most likely his approval is needed before implementing or reforming prostitution law that’s why he is confident I guess. :)

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It appears most likely his approval is needed before implementing or reforming prostitution law that’s why he is confident I guess. :)

Hurrah!

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I would also be interested to know why Silverado is so confident. Like you, I hope that he is right but unless I have some very compelling evidence I shall assume, again like you, that when Labour get back in, unless the landscape has changed a great deal, she and her chums will be at it again.

 

Of course HH will continue her crusade. Politicians or groups of politicians are always proposing something.  Rarely does anything come of it, especially in relation to the criminal law regarding prostitution.

 

We've seen all of this before. Prior to the introduction of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 and during the "Setting the Boundaries" consultation, we had exactly the same comments on the old message board. We also had the same during the "Paying the Price" consultation in 2004/5. The main recommendation that came from that consultation was the legalisation of mini-brothels. Tony Blair didn't implement it, but it was a long way short of complete abolition as feared by many.

 

The doomsayers and scaremongers on this board had a field day in 2008/9 when the Policing and Crime Bill 2009 was being discussed. There were lots of posts by people saying that this time next year we'll all be in prison, and about giving up punting before the new law is in force. Some of these posts are still on the forum.

 

HH said at the time that she would like to criminalise all punters but she accepted that it was never going to happen. Her proposals were eventually watered down by the Lords. As a result we have the new section 53A offence - for which I've not been able to find a single reported conviction anywhere on the internet.

 

Like many on Punternet, I've seen it all before!

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Of course HH will continue her crusade. Politicians or groups of politicians are always proposing something.  Rarely does anything come of it, especially in relation to the criminal law regarding prostitution.

 

We've seen all of this before. Prior to the introduction of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 and during the "Setting the Boundaries" consultation, we had exactly the same comments on the old message board. We also had the same during the "Paying the Price" consultation in 2004/5. The main recommendation that came from that consultation was the legalisation of mini-brothels. Tony Blair didn't implement it, but it was a long way short of complete abolition as feared by many.

 

The doomsayers and scaremongers on this board had a field day in 2008/9 when the Policing and Crime Bill 2009 was being discussed. There were lots of posts by people saying that this time next year we'll all be in prison, and about giving up punting before the new law is in force. Some of these posts are still on the forum.

 

HH said at the time that she would like to criminalise all punters but she accepted that it was never going to happen. Her proposals were eventually watered down by the Lords. As a result we have the new section 53A offence - for which I've not been able to find a single reported conviction anywhere on the internet.

 

Like many on Punternet, I've seen it all before!

Fair enough. As long as just enough of the Establishment keep a grip on sanity. :)

 

Nonetheless I would sleep a lot easier if HH and her chums were banished to the Scandinavian wastes. :D

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It appears most likely his approval is needed before implementing or reforming prostitution law that’s why he is confident I guess.

 

It's the obtaining of the approval of the House of Commons and House of Lords that are the stumbling blocks.

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there are many websites that offer escort services where you pay for the "companionship" of girls. But we all know that we are basically paying for sex. does the police turn a blind eye on this? 

Yes. Especially if they are in the brothels' pockets.

 

The only countries in Europe where sex services are explicitly regulated are the Netherlands and Germany. Whoever says that prostitition is "legal" in this country doesn't really know the law.

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Yes. Especially if they are in the brothels' pockets.

 

The only countries in Europe where sex services are explicitly regulated are the Netherlands and Germany. Whoever says that prostitition is "legal" in this country doesn't really know the law.

Prostitution being the exchange of money for sex is legal.

 

You are referring to running brothels which is not legal(working in one or buying services in a brothel is quite legal). Soliciting ie walking the street looking for business is not legal, neither is a man looking for a prostitute on the street. A bloke phoning an independent who agrees to pay a certain fee for sex, they then meet at her premises from which she is the only woman offering sex, he pays and they have sex - no one is breaking any laws in that situation.

Edited by Strawberry

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Yes. Especially if they are in the brothels' pockets.

 

The only countries in Europe where sex services are explicitly regulated are the Netherlands and Germany. Whoever says that prostitition is "legal" in this country doesn't really know the law.

 

It's late and I'm tired, so I'm (perhaps) going to be blunt!

 

You glibly use the term "this country" - the trouble for you is that the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is three jurisdictions, each of which has different legal systems and different laws.

 

There is a difference, probably well beyond your limited understanding, between "legal" and "not illegal".

 

Having been admitted by the late (great) Lord Denning more than thirty years ago, I think that I have some claim to know my own spheres of the law, and I'll say with complete confidence that neither in England&Wales nor in Scotland is it illegal for one person to pay another person (both being of full age, and freely consenting) for sexual services, nor for the other to receive payment.

 

It is illegal to manage a brothel, to let premises for use as a brothel, to solicit for prostitution in a street or public place and to kerbcrawl.

 

In Northern Ireland things are slightly different, and I would avoid commenting on the law obtaining "in the province".

 

Good night!

 

PS: Strawberry is not only delightful, but also completely correct in what she says.

Edited by Irgendeiner

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But what would happen if the UK follows the swedish law and makes prositution illegal? would they still turn a blind eye on online escort services?

There will be the return of adverts along the lines of 'large chest for sale' or 'French polishing' as there used to be. A carefully worded newspaper advert full of innuendo was how I started, way before the Internet. Yes, that's right, we did have clients before the Internet.

Fancy that. ; )

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There will be the return of adverts along the lines of 'large chest for sale' or 'French polishing' as there used to be. A carefully worded newspaper advert full of innuendo was how I started, way before the Internet. Yes, that's right, we did have clients before the Internet.

Fancy that. ; )

Or as somebody who frequents Sweden regularly told me, that if you order a specific pizza an escort turns up.. Not sure if true but thought it hilarious :D

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Or as somebody who frequents Sweden regularly told me, that if you order a specific pizza an escort turns up.. Not sure if true but thought it hilarious :D

Presumably the Sizzler

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