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Guardian: Uk 'will Follow Iceland's Lead Over Ban On Internet Porn'

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Good I agree with this. The amount of pornography that is shown by ads on the internet is disgusting. Especially the type of pornography that is pretty fucked up and has no place in society. I wouldn't want to even imagine the effect of seeing adverts like that would have on my child. The whole "The servers aren't based in the UK etc so we can't stop it" is a poor excuse for allowing extreme and disturbing imagery. Having an age verification system is fine by me and I hope it happens. It's not like how it was when we were children and tried to sneak a look at a lads mag.. Porn is far too fucked up now.

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brutal and hardcore imagery is already against the law under the dangerous pictures act, it also criminalised images which were of an obscene nature but not violent such as defecation, so i wonder if this is an attempt to ban all types of porn, if so then porn companies will be pleased as they will have lost business to the free porn sites such as youporn etc.

strange that neo-nazi websites are considered acceptable to children as there is no moral panic about this

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brutal and hardcore imagery is already against the law under the dangerous pictures act, it also criminalised images which were of an obscene nature but not violent such as defecation, so i wonder if this is an attempt to ban all types of porn, if so then porn companies will be pleased as they will have lost business to the free porn sites such as youporn etc.

strange that neo-nazi websites are considered acceptable to children as there is no moral panic about this

 

 

Spot on! the antis know that there are a lot of  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot  eg see the post before yours, and that is what they hope will do the the trick for them.

 

 

another excellent comment:

 

 

 Japan is an interesting country- its prostitution and porn industry is thriving and it produces tonnes of porn (much of it bizarre and violent) yet it has low crime and low rape. USA on the other hand has laws against prostitution and they tend to have prudish attitudes yet rape and violent crime there is sky-high.

 

http://www.punternet.com/forum/index.php/topic/29190-iceland-considers-banning-all-pornography/?p=493833

 

 

What it really boils down to is christian moralism...

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Banning something always has the reverse effect, for decades kids have been watching and collecting films
not because they are supposed to be any good, but because they're illegal.

How much money would it cost to buy publicity like this?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/6053882/Japanese-horror-movie-Grotesque-banned-by-BBFC.html

 

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2008/02/29/uk-britain-idUKN2821678920080229

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To be honest i would be quite happy if my sons had to get up the nerve to actually buy some porn, they would see a lot less of it. A couple of clicks nowadays and you have the most ridiculous state of affairs splashed across your screens. 

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If you don't want someone to do something or watch something then banning it is probably the worst thing you can do.

 

People love the naughty feeling from dabbling with "forbidden fruits". Whether it's smoking weed, watching banned movies or drinking while underage part of the "buzz" and excitement comes from the fact you are doing something you aren't supposed to do.

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I am a fan of porn and have been for over 50 years going back to my mid-teens and I don’t think it’s ever done me any harm so I have no axe to grind concerning what people should or shouldn’t be allowed to watch. However, there is a significant difference between what I could lay my hands on as a youth and what is readily available today, and that is not so much the content and nature of the porn (I remember seeing some pretty explicit and ‘abnormal’ stuff) but rather the sheer quantity.

 

If I go to a free site such as xHamster there are many thousands of videos classified as Anal or BDSM or Group Sex … The list goes on and on. If I’m to believe recent statistics (and I am always sceptical about figures put out by pressure groups) then a large ‘consumer’ of internet porn is the 12 to 17 age group. And what do they see in virtually every video – shaved girls being fucked in every hole (and often more than one at a time), with cum all over their faces and often either tied or held down. There is never any emotion associated with the act, but it is, undoubtedly, stimulating and exciting to watch.

 

So is it any wonder that the acts that are watched here are the acts that many youngsters then want to try out with their boy/girl friends, and see as the norm – they have no other reference point at that young age? It’s fine to experiment with these games once you have matured and understand the nature of your relationships, but I am rapidly coming to the belief that at such a young age it can warp your understanding of sex and possibly taint it for life.

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brutal and hardcore imagery is already against the law under the dangerous pictures act, ...........

I presume you’re referring to the “Possession of Extreme Pornographic Images” part of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act? That specifically says that it an offence to possess pornographic images that depict acts which threaten a person's life, acts which result in or are likely to result in serious injury to a person's anus, breasts or genitals, and acts of bestiality or necrophilia. I think you’ll find that the ‘free’ porn on the web doesn’t infringe these categories, although I’m not sure whether this has ever been put to the test. But also, the Act refers to possession of such imagery, and simple video streaming may well not qualify.

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“Possession of Extreme Pornographic Images”

 

Speaking of which does anyone know exactly what is defined as "serious injury"? Example if you are watching a BDSM video where one adult is whipping another adult how hard does the whipping have to be before it becomes "extreme"? Where is the line drawn?

 

In England and Wales it is "serious injury to a person's anus, breasts or genitals" but in Scotland they expanded it to simply "serious injury".

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