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Can anyone suggest some helpful suggestions for replacing the (unpopular with some on Punternet) term 'Hygienic GFE'?

Because the other thread that Orlando007 started became so long, Indian Palace would like to say that we in no way intended any offense by any of our comments. Thank you to Paradisegirl22 (Tammy) for her last reply to us. And to the people who took the time to email us about the other thread. A lot of the replies on the forum were directed at the posters who were being unnecessarily rude and condescending towards Indian Palace well before we started posting replies back on this forum.

After we looked back at what we posted, yes some of it would cause offense to a person reading it. It came across it an angry manner as we were angry at the time! Some of the posters on here are deliberate wind up merchants and Indian Palace will try not to fall for it again. Some posters leaving nasty comments have not even set foot in our place.

Anyway, the term vanilla makes a person who does not provide unprotected services sound lacking in flavour and excitement. Who wants vanilla when they can have chocolate chip or strawberry etc! We really don't like that term!

Could anyone suggest anything that we can abbreviate and put on our site that fits in with the abbreviations that people use these days so that a reader won't find be confused by it? Something nice and exotic that lets everyone know we don't do FK or OW etc.

Any positive suggestions would be very helpful ;)

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I think the term 'hygenic GFE' should only be replaced if it is absolutely imperative that a GFE must include french kissing and oral without. I got the impression that GFE was a subjective term anyway but I leave myself open to correction.

Even then, I honestly think that 'hygenic GFE' is a term coined by Indian Palace and although has elements of the meaning of the term 'GFE', the fact it is premodified with an adjective and functions as a single grammatical unit allows it to take on related but ultimately distinct meaning. Perhaps put a hyphen in between Hygenic-GFE to show it is all one item.

I cannot really think of a replacement term and disagree that they should be forced to change it on the grounds of false advertising. But here are my suggestions;

Fuck Buddy experience

Friend Fuck

Male to Female Love experience

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Can anyone suggest some helpful suggestions for replacing the (unpopular with some on Punternet) term 'Hygienic GFE'?

Because the other thread that Orlando007 started became so long, Indian Palace would like to say that we in no way intended any offense by any of our comments. Thank you to Paradisegirl22 (Tammy) for her last reply to us. And to the people who took the time to email us about the other thread. A lot of the replies on the forum were directed at the posters who were being unnecessarily rude and condescending towards Indian Palace well before we started posting replies back on this forum.

After we looked back at what we posted, yes some of it would cause offense to a person reading it. It came across it an angry manner as we were angry at the time! Some of the posters on here are deliberate wind up merchants and Indian Palace will try not to fall for it again. Some posters leaving nasty comments have not even set foot in our place.

Anyway, the term vanilla makes a person who does not provide unprotected services sound lacking in flavour and excitement. Who wants vanilla when they can have chocolate chip or strawberry etc! We really don't like that term!

Could anyone suggest anything that we can abbreviate and put on our site that fits in with the abbreviations that people use these days so that a reader won't find be confused by it? Something nice and exotic that lets everyone know we don't do FK or OW etc.

Any positive suggestions would be very helpful ;)

It is simple really each girls services should be defined.

GFE-OW-Kissing(Not DFK)- (either RO or No RO) depending on the girl.

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Can anyone suggest some helpful suggestions for replacing the (unpopular with some on Punternet) term 'Hygienic GFE'?

Well I would take the somewhat radical step of replacing the term "GFE" (hygenic or otherwise) with a simple list of services provided, this will ensure that both sides of the transaction know exactly what is being sold.

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You have a square wheel and no amount of name changing is going to make it round ;)

Up your Viva

Lou4fun x

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How about instead of using "hygienic GFE" you put.

All "normal" services you would expect with the exception of French Kissing, Oral without, reverse oral or any penetration whatsoever without a condom (Including fingers). Please ask us before paying if you need further clarification.

You could include:

Our girls have taken medical advce on both staying healthy themselves and providing a hygienic service to our customers to ensure they leave us at least as healthy, albeit a lot happier, than they arrive.

Customers probably won't read it as they will be looking at all the lovely ladies but at least it is honest and true to what you claim to be the case.

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I think that it'd be difficult to find an 'exotic' term/phrase etc. to characterize your service given your stated considerations and boundaries; the 'hygienic' imperative is antithetical to exotic.

However, nothing is objectively wrong with 'vanilla' per se and plenty of people like it whether we're talking food or sex. While your services may be 'non-exotic' it would seem that the same cannot be said about your ladies. Given that there's a difference between Iceland own brand and Green & Black organic vanilla ice creams, for example, even though they're both the same flavour, how about using some modifier like 'gourmet vanilla', where the former refers to the quality of the ladies and the latter the service - this adspeak might be usefully accompanied by a clear statement on the services offered.

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If it doesn't walk like a duck, and can't paddle like a duck, and doesn't quack like a duck, best to avoid calling it a duck.

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I think the term 'hygenic GFE' should only be replaced if it is absolutely imperative that a GFE must include french kissing and oral without. I got the impression that GFE was a subjective term anyway but I leave myself open to correction.

Angus, have you ever had a girlfriend who refuses to kiss. ;)

To avoid any further confusion Indian Palace should simply stop offering GFE as they obviously do not know what it means. :)

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Indian Palace,

I have just looked at the London Indian Escort website again, as that is where all the confusion started.

You have 5 girls (Ravina, Samia, Sara, Shakira and Yasmin) advertised there.

3 of the girls' profile have used the term "GFE" :

Samia Pakistani Girlfriend Experience

Experiences: Hygienic Services, Sexy Relaxing & Erotic massage, Foot Worship.

Sara Busty Punjabi GFE

Experiences: Hygienic GFE, Personal Services, Sexy Relaxing & Erotic massage

Yasmin Asian Girlfriend Experience

Experiences: Hygenic GFE, Mild Domination, Sexy & Erotic Massage, 69 (costs £10 extra), Foot worship

Interesting, you cannot see the term GFE on the other 2 girls' profile.

Ravina Classy Asian Escort

Experiences: Hygienic Services, Sexy Relaxing & Erotic massage, Foot Worship

Shakira Sexy Punjabi Girl

Experiences: Personal services, Mild domination

More than 80% of the members believe that GFE should include kissing, please see this poll, so what I suggest is simply just to remove the term "GFE" from Samia, Sara and Yasmin's profile, and you don't need to replace the term GFE as both Ravina and Shakira's profile don't have the term "GFE" and it looks perfectly OK and honest to me.

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I think a fresh approach may be needed. Since some consider it legitimate to put "hygienic" and "GFE" together as "a single grammatical unit", then in that case it should be interpreted more logically according to existing accepted meanings of the terms employed.

So, for those who wish to retain the term, and to avoid further semantic confusion, I propose that a "hygienic GFE" allows kissing and RO but only with the use of dental dams and both parties wearing surgical gloves at all times during the encounter. Masks might also be incorporated.

What IP offers is another matter.

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If it doesn't walk like a duck, and can't paddle like a duck, and doesn't quack like a duck, best to avoid calling it a duck.

Duck is in the English dictionary. 'Girlfriend experience' is not. It's a term used in sexual slang. Started by someone who was trying to describe an experience. 'Hygienic GFE' is also sexual slang, started by Indian Palace and if we can't find any alternatives, we will continue to use it. We already state what services we do and don't do on our emails, when people phone up before they come in and when they come down. All we will add to it, is on the said website pages that armeggadon quoted is the 'No' in front of abbreviations and services.

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'Hygienic GFE' is also sexual slang, started by Indian Palace and if we can't find any alternatives, we will continue to use it..

I suggest that if IP can't find a way of not misleading customers, that they be banned from PN. But hey, just an opinion, don't have a cow..

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Angus, have you ever had a girlfriend who refuses to kiss. ;)

To avoid any further confusion Indian Palace should simply stop offering GFE as they obviously do not know what it means. :)

If you can't be constructive, please refrain from insulting and don't post.

'Girlfriend Experience' is not in the English dictionary.

To your rude comment: would you class a WG that you see as your girlriend?

And we don't say we offer GFE for the millionth time.

Look on our site, send us an email or call up. You will see for yourself that we are honest about the services we advertise.

We are going to correct the terms on the London Indian Escort site.

They put a lot of the terms on the pictures themselves. Ring up and ask them if you don't believe us. We did not put 'Pakistani Girlfriend Experience' or 'Asian Girlfriend Experience' or 'Punjabi GFE' on the main picture word tags. We have just gone to the site now to look and we are definitely going to get them to change it. The only that was put on that site was for Sara in her write up that said 'Hygienic GFE'. The directory have added all the other terms. It's a directory and some of the tags for google for that directory use terms like 'ow' etc. Not everybody on that directory provides those services. We will email them to get it amended to "Hygienic GFE' if we cannot find an alternative.

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Something like :

Hygienic personal service/experience.

Hygienic full personal service/experience.

Safety first personal service/experience.

Sanitary personal service/experience.

Health first personal service/experience.

I think all of these more accurately describe the service you are offering, and strongly suggest all sexual service are covered/safe. To me experience suggests more intimacy than service a probably best reserved for girls that do provide kissing.

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I think a fresh approach may be needed. Since some consider it legitimate to put "hygienic" and "GFE" together as "a single grammatical unit", then in that case it should be interpreted more logically according to existing accepted meanings of the terms employed.

So, for those who wish to retain the term, and to avoid further semantic confusion, I propose that a "hygienic GFE" allows kissing and RO but only with the use of dental dams and both parties wearing surgical gloves at all times during the encounter. Masks might also be incorporated.

What IP offers is another matter.

What about having a thick plastic sheet between both parties so they can try and interact like that? Or better still a blow up doll or virtual reality scenes with goggles on? Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

Were you the one who reffered to a film to explain your beliefs of why CIM is totally totally risk free?

If you can't be constructive, don't post.

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It is simple really each girls services should be defined.

GFE-OW-Kissing(Not DFK)- (either RO or No RO) depending on the girl.

Yes, we are going to amend the directory we advertise on. They have added GFE terms all over the place on some of the advertising without even putting the 'Hygienic' word in front. The term was only put on sara's page in a small bit in her write up a few months ago. We have not checked back on the directory till just now.

We are emailing them asap to change it and we hope they change it soon.

We will still try and look for alternatives even though some people are deliberately not trying to be helpful.

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I think the term 'hygenic GFE' should only be replaced if it is absolutely imperative that a GFE must include french kissing and oral without. I got the impression that GFE was a subjective term anyway but I leave myself open to correction.

Even then, I honestly think that 'hygenic GFE' is a term coined by Indian Palace and although has elements of the meaning of the term 'GFE', the fact it is premodified with an adjective and functions as a single grammatical unit allows it to take on related but ultimately distinct meaning. Perhaps put a hyphen in between Hygenic-GFE to show it is all one item.

I cannot really think of a replacement term and disagree that they should be forced to change it on the grounds of false advertising. But here are my suggestions;

Fuck Buddy experience

Friend Fuck

Male to Female Love experience

Thanks for the suggestions Angus. We are compiling a list and if all of us don't agree with it, then we will stick with the sexual slang term 'Hygienic-GFE' as derived from the main sexual slang term 'GFE'.

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What about having a thick plastic sheet between both parties so they can try and interact like that? Or better still a blow up doll or virtual reality scenes with goggles on?

I very much commend these further suggestions for legitimising the notion of a hygienic GFE. Ultimately, though, I recommend the "full body" condom as an even more satisfactory and more practical solution. Breathing apparatus is optional.

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If you can't be constructive, please refrain from insulting and don't post.

'Girlfriend Experience' is not in the English dictionary.

To your rude comment: would you class a WG that you see as your girlriend?

And we don't say we offer GFE for the millionth time.

Look on our site, send us an email or call up. You will see for yourself that we are honest about the services we advertise.

We are going to correct the terms on the London Indian Escort site.

They put a lot of the terms on the pictures themselves. Ring up and ask them if you don't believe us. We did not put 'Pakistani Girlfriend Experience' or 'Asian Girlfriend Experience' or 'Punjabi GFE' on the main picture word tags. We have just gone to the site now to look and we are definitely going to get them to change it. The only that was put on that site was for Sara in her write up that said 'Hygienic GFE'. The directory have added all the other terms. It's a directory and some of the tags for google for that directory use terms like 'ow' etc. Not everybody on that directory provides those services. We will email them to get it amended to "Hygienic GFE' if we cannot find an alternative.

Sorry to be pedantict but girlfriend experience IS in the english dictionary.

Google girlfriend experience and you get this as the top result

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience

And to quote it:

"The "girlfriend experience" generally involves more personal interaction than a traditional call girl or escort offers. There is a focus on not just completing a sexual act, but also having more of an experience. Often sessions last longer and are "no rush," which means the call girl spends the full advertised time rather than rushing out after a climax. Common activities usually offered by GFE escorts include kissing and/or french kissing, cuddling and foreplay. By contrast, non-GFE prostitutes typically refrain from kissing because they consider it more emotionally intimate than sexual intercourse without kissing. A call girl advertising the provision of a "girlfriend experience" is implying that she provides deep french kissing (DFK), "full service" (intercourse) usually with protection, and fellatio and cunnilingus, both with or without protection

Sorry but you thought of a term thats GFE without some services of GFE. If thats not clear to a customer its no doubt that its going to cause confusion.

To get back to your original post, "Unrushed personal experience" or something similar might be more appropriate.

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Fuck Buddy experience

Friend Fuck

Male to Female Love experience

I think those are quite crude, any description that uses the word fuck tends toward a PSE in my mind. What is needed here is something that portrays a degree of intimacy like a GFE but with an emphasis on safe play, more like the first sex with a new partner.

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Well I would take the somewhat radical step of replacing the term "GFE" (hygenic or otherwise) with a simple list of services provided, this will ensure that both sides of the transaction know exactly what is being sold.

We have a very detailed list of services that we let people know about when they call up before they come in, email us and when they come down.

It is not our intention to mislead. No one has challenged the term GFE in the WG world as most providers of services offer unprotected services. It has started off as sexual slang and even in Wikkipedia it has (citation needed) in front of the description of the term. If you go to the Wikkipedia discussion that they have referenced for the use of the term 'GFE' not everybody agrees with the majority of the poll that punternet users have participated in on here.

Punternet is also very biased towards the term GFE as nearly all the providers on here provide unprotected services.

Because the sexual slang term has gone on for so long unchallenged, it has seem to become the norm, which is not fair.

The 'citation needed' bit would not be there in Wikkipedia if the term was so definitely set in stone.

Just because providers of protected services are not in their majority, they should not be alienated from the term GFE in a phrase such as 'HYGIENIC-GFE' where they are trying to use the term to accurately reflect their services. We could change the term to P-GFE (Protected Girlfriend Experience) or NK-GFE (No Kissing Girlfriend Experience) if people are taking offense at Indian Palace using the term 'Hygienic'.

We do not mean to use this term in any way to be offensive to anyone.

What do people think would be the better of the above two abbreviations?

Would anyone like to add any more abbreviations that they can think of?

Indian Palace do incorporate elements of GFE in their protected services.

As the GFE is being experienced with a WG we don't feel that kissing and unprotected services should be a part of it. We feel that kissing and unprotected services should be reserved for the one and only sexual partner you have (i.e girlfriend) due to the health risks that MIGHT occur.

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I very much commend these further suggestions for legitimising the notion of a hygienic GFE. Ultimately, though, I recommend the "full body" condom as an even more satisfactory and more practical solution. Breathing apparatus is optional.

Mabey there is a film on it that you might like to refer to as a way of backing that up? Have you eaten today?

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Mabey there is a film on it that you might like to refer to as a way of backing that up? Have you eaten today?

Actually, no, the crisps and nuts are long gone and all the ice cream too, even the vanilla. I'm reduced to chewing on the sofa and already down to the frame…

The voices... in my head… please make them stop…

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Sorry to be pedantict but girlfriend experience IS in the english dictionary.

Google girlfriend experience and you get this as the top result

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience

And to quote it:

"The "girlfriend experience" generally involves more personal interaction than a traditional call girl or escort offers. There is a focus on not just completing a sexual act, but also having more of an experience. Often sessions last longer and are "no rush," which means the call girl spends the full advertised time rather than rushing out after a climax. Common activities usually offered by GFE escorts include kissing and/or french kissing, cuddling and foreplay. By contrast, non-GFE prostitutes typically refrain from kissing because they consider it more emotionally intimate than sexual intercourse without kissing. A call girl advertising the provision of a "girlfriend experience" is implying that she provides deep french kissing (DFK), "full service" (intercourse) usually with protection, and fellatio and cunnilingus, both with or without protection

Sorry but you thought of a term thats GFE without some services of GFE. If thats not clear to a customer its no doubt that its going to cause confusion.

To get back to your original post, "Unrushed personal experience" or something similar might be more appropriate.

Thanks for the suggestion. It's going on to our list. We are not trying to spam the board, but this earlier post will answer your comments above:

Wikkipedia is NOT the English dictionary. It's full of sexual slangs terms (terms made up by people to suit what they are trying to explain) and if you look at the page on GFE in Wikkipedia it says (citation needed).

We have a very detailed list of services that we let people know about when they call up before they come in, email us and when they come down.

It is not our intention to mislead. No one has challenged the term GFE in the WG world as most providers of services offer unprotected services. It has started off as sexual slang and even in Wikkipedia it has (citation needed) in front of the description of the term. If you go to the Wikkipedia discussion that they have referenced for the use of the term 'GFE' not everybody agrees with the majority of the poll that punternet users have participated in on here.

Punternet is also very biased towards the term GFE as nearly all the providers on here provide unprotected services.

Because the sexual slang term has gone on for so long unchallenged, it has seem to become the norm, which is not fair.

Just because providers of protected services are not in their majority, they should not be alienated from the term GFE in a phrase such as 'HYGIENIC-GFE' where they are trying to use the term to accurately reflect their services. We could change the term to P-GFE (Protected Girlfriend Experience) or NK-GFE (No Kissing Girlfriend Experience).

What do people think would be the better of the above two abbreviations?

Would anyone like to add any more abbreviations that they can think of?

Indian Palace do incorporate an element of GFE in their protected services.

As the GFE is being experienced with a WG we don't feel that kissing and unprotected services should be a part of it. We feel that kissing and unprotected services should be reserved for the one and only sexual partner you have (i.e girlfriend) due to the health risks that MIGHT occur.

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