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Swedish Model Fails Trafficked Children

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http://www.thelocal.se/44408/20121114/#.UTTFT1fRK_I

 

The link shows how even after the Swedish model of criminalising the purchaser has been in existence since 1999 they have very high child trafficking statistics, with children as young as 3 being abused.  Currently both the North and the South are campaigning to have the Swedish Model legislation to combat trafficking and yet it obviously isn't working.

 

If this does come into the North of Ireland, don't be surprised if it comes over to the rest of the UK, as Scotland already have it.

 

What do you think?  An excuse for feminists and religious bible bashers to throw their weight or geniune concern for trafficked women and children?

 

Incidentally they are doing much better in Germany and New Zealand where they have chosen decriminalisation for all, yet those models are not being discussed.

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If this does come into the North of Ireland, don't be surprised if it comes over to the rest of the UK, as Scotland already have it.

 

No they don't.

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In the case of exploited children its not really any supprise it hasnt had any effect after all,those sorts of activity were already illegal and subject to existing laws which unfortunately hasnt detered those of that determination.

The model of criminalising the purchaser will only affect law abiding punters,those who wouldnt want to risk a record for anything.For those who the law doesnt mean a great deal to wont really care.

The trouble is,for anything to be done about trafficking there needs to be a co operation between the countires people are being shipped to and the country of origin to protect the victims as otherwise prossecutions become difficult as no body is really able to speak out.Did anyone see the case of the lady the Gvt is having to pay compensation?She was trafficed to the UK as a sex worker.During raid she was "rescued".It was however determined that she was under no risk if she was shipped home so thats what they did.She was returned home to her village where her family home was broken in to by the people who had taken her in the first place,she was beaten,drugged,repeatedly raped.Her brother was beaten and raped as a lesson and she was returned to work across europe.Thats the level of care curently givem to the victims of trafficing.

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No they don't.

 

I've double checked and you are right, they haven't changed it yet, although I know they want to and they have tightened up severely on anyone found to be working from a hotel or apartment.  Girls are actively being kicked out of hotels.

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Girls aren't being kicked out of hotels.

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Criminalising the punter, especially in the manner under the 1st April 2010 legislation, will never work because:

  • The police don't have the resources and in any event pre-existing legislation would enable them to react appropriately re trafficked women given appropriate 'leads' ie. info from punters, and/but
  • appropriate information from punters is positively discouraged by that same legislation.

So the 1.4.10 legislation is a pile of poo.

 

Uncle Pokey

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Girls aren't being kicked out of hotels.

 

Funny as I know a few that have, so yes it is happening.

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Criminalising the punter, especially in the manner under the 1st April 2010 legislation, will never work because:

  • The police don't have the resources and in any event pre-existing legislation would enable them to react appropriately re trafficked women given appropriate 'leads' ie. info from punters, and/but
  • appropriate information from punters is positively discouraged by that same legislation.

So the 1.4.10 legislation is a pile of poo.

 

Uncle Pokey

 

I agree and can I thank you for being the only person to actually address the OP topic and not picking hairs.

 

This is a very big thing in Ireland at the moment and it is going across to Northern Ireland as well, as Lord Morrow is campaigning for it along with Ruhama and TORL (Turn off the Red Light).  They are determined to demonize Sex Workers and only 2 days ago they ruined the life of a poor woman who had only moved to Ireland a month ago to get a better life, as a Nanny, but after sending 100's of applications was getting no where, so turned to Sex Work to pay the bills while pursuing her end goal.  Instead of helping her, they set her up with a bogus interview for a Nanny position and then a bogus booking for Sex Work and not only filmed her, but mentioned the street she lived on and showed the door with the number on it 3 times during a short film.  Totally sickening.

 

In the mean time in the last week there have been 2 attacks on Escorts working in Ireland.

 

It should matter to the UK, as it's not that far away and if it does go ahead over there, which they are really campaigning hard for, who knows where it might end and it is bad and it is causing casualties, especially with regards to trafficking, as it is creating more demand and yet they are still wanting it?

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Funny as I know a few that have, so yes it is happening.

I'm sure it isn't happening in Scotland any more than in the rest of the UK.

 

In any case it would have nothing to do with criminal law, just hotel policy and careless WGs allowing attention to be drawn to what they are doing.

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