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Renting My Flat Out To Escorts.

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Had this crazy thought cross my mind earlier today. Is it a terrible idea? Would any escorts be interested anyway? What would pros/cons be?

 

Ok so I know this would probably be a bad idea on many levels and would any escorts even be interested but let's discuss it anyway! It would be an "imaginative" way to resolve a predicament. I currently have an empty property in Glasgow. A relic of a past failed relationship. I'll shortly be getting the place on the market but until it sells it'll be sitting there racking up mortgage payments.

 

The place had been rented but I decided to terminate the tenancy and sell the place instead. But in this current market I could be looking at 3-6 months to sell the place. That's a lot of money going nowhere (except the bank). I thought about seeing if I could find someone for a short term short-notice tenancy, but tenants bring their junk with them, the place gets cluttered and it becomes a hassle trying to arrange convenient times to do viewings, not to mention getting rid of them when the place sells.

 

Now there are plenty of escorts out there that only do outcalls; presumably this is often because they don't want clients in their own home or do not have access to an alternative address from which to work. So potentially they'd be happy to offer incalls if they had a safe private place to do so? More potential customers for them and a small fee for me. Obviously a small enough fee that they wouldn't be better off renting a hotel room - and no I'm not proposing sex in exchange for use of the place. 

 

Also a big bonus would be that when the place sells, I'd be able to end the arrangement at short notice.

 

I don't think I'd seriously do this but I'd be interested to hear your opinions on this and especially any escort's views, how would you regard it? And be polite and civilised in your responses please. This isn't a school playground.

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If the fee is fair then I dont see what the problem would be. It all depends on the area and what your neighbours are like, are they nose? Is there parking? Is it easy to direct too?

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As you stipulated you would not be in it for the freebies etc..... there is no reason for anyone to put your idea down.

 

It sounds a very good arrangement to me.... the main difficulty would be finding just the right lady and remembering that if it went ahead then you have to accept  there will be a lot of strangers coming and going and the trust you need in that lady is vital.  I would suggest a more mature wg rather than a young girl. 

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Two comments:

 

First, if you are trying to sell the flat, presumably you'll hope that propective purchasers will come to view the premises? Assuming that your WG tenant decorates the place to make clients welcome, I rather doubt that Mr & Mrs McNice will be over impressed, unless, of course, tenant greets Mr McNice warmly, by name, to Mrs McNice's surprise?

 

Second, in England it is an offence to be a WG's landlord - whether that is the case in Scotland, I don't know - the Crown Office is very furtive about what they think the (common) law actually is!

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Why would any guy (who posts in PN) want to rent out a property to an escort?

 

Trying to sell a flat that is used by escorts would very difficult - you would cetainly piss the neighbours off and may leave a bad smell behind.

 

Sounds to me like you have alterior motives.

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All fine and dandy while things are going well, but if the lady finds the arrangement too much to her advantage, what measures can you take to evict her when the sale is agreed. I am guessing you won't have what, in England, would be an Assured Shorthold Tenancy Agreement. The absence of a STA means you have very few rights. If the lady decides to stay put you could take ages to get possession and thus lose the sale.

 

I would advise against the idea.

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You wouldn't be thinking of putting a hidden camera in there, would you...? 

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A regular of mine is looking to move on from the establishment she's been in but is scared to "go it alone". She tells me another client, who she has only recently started seeing, has offered her use of his flat ( the one he lives in!) during the day, whilst he's out at work. All he says he wants is a contribution towards services. I've carefully advised her to be cautious. She's got her head screwed on but I would be wary about freebies / potential pimping.

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All fine and dandy while things are going well, but if the lady finds the arrangement too much to her advantage, what measures can you take to evict her when the sale is agreed. I am guessing you won't have what, in England, would be an Assured Shorthold Tenancy Agreement. The absence of a STA means you have very few rights. If the lady decides to stay put you could take ages to get possession and thus lose the sale.

 

I would advise against the idea.

You dont have to rent it out to one lady. You could put a maximum of say a three day stay then there is no one to evict. No property left overnight either unless the girl is staying there with it for the short duration. 

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It *could* work, but only really if you found a lady you truly trusted to be clean, tidy, discreet and sensible. Probably a well known, experienced escort with a good reputation that she wouldn't want to lose would be your best bet. 

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You could find the landlord forfeits the lease to your flat.  Not totally sure on Scottish law but in England you could run into serious problems if the landlord finds out.  Most leases contain covenants on what you must do or may not do.  They will also contain a clause allowing the landlord to forfeit the lease for a breach of covenant, albeit they will have to go to court to enforce this.  If the covenant is for instance to clean the inside of the windows and you don't this is called a redeemable breach of covenant.  The reason for this is that cleaning the windows will be deemed as sufficient to have redeemed the breach and a court will not enforce forfeiture.  Some breaches though are called irredeemable breaches.  This is where something has happened that will have severally damaged the reputation of the building as a whole such that there is nothing the tenant can do to make amends.  A standard covenant is "not to perform any illegal or immoral activity...." and allowing your flat to be used as a brothel will get you into a whole host of potential problems.

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No problem should arise regarding asking someone to move out if you let it on a weekly or daily basis and the wg does not move in and live there or stay overnight.  As someone else mentioned though..... allowing potential buyers to view could pose a bit of a problem.

 

My code is always "if in doubt miss it out"  :)   so if you think there would be too many possible stumbling blocks then maybe just forget the idea.

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  What would pros/cons be?

 

The risks would be:

 

Your landlord forfeiting the lease of your flat.

 

The bank taking possession proceedings.

 

Possible criminal offences (see Irgendeiners's post) as well as money laundering/ Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 considerations.

 

I see that somebody has even suggested that you run it as a brothel.

 

 

I don't think I'd seriously do this.....

 

A wise decision.

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You wouldn't be thinking of putting a hidden camera in there, would you...? 

:D Love that idea. Wish I'd thought of it. Now - does sound like rather a nice idea - renting a flat to a pro.

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When you sell a house you have to disclose anything about it which you think might be relevant to the vendor.

It could bounce back on you in a big way.

I would not want to buy  flat for residential purposes if it had been used by hookers.

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When you sell a house you have to disclose anything about it which you think might be relevant to the vendor.

It could bounce back on you in a big way.

I would not want to buy  flat for residential purposes if it had been used by hookers.

Oh dear, half of MK have  :cool:

 

You cant even claim recompense without difficulty if you buy a new house and a year later it starts to subside. A few guys knocking on your door would I doubt put the previous owner to any inconvenience. Someone would have to prove he knew what was going on and indies tend to take bookings by appointment only so no one would be turning up unannounced anyway.

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You could find the landlord forfeits the lease to your flat.  Not totally sure on Scottish law but in England you could run into serious problems if the landlord finds out.  Most leases contain covenants on what you must do or may not do.  They will also contain a clause allowing the landlord to forfeit the lease for a breach of covenant, albeit they will have to go to court to enforce this.  If the covenant is for instance to clean the inside of the windows and you don't this is called a redeemable breach of covenant.  The reason for this is that cleaning the windows will be deemed as sufficient to have redeemed the breach and a court will not enforce forfeiture.  Some breaches though are called irredeemable breaches.  This is where something has happened that will have severally damaged the reputation of the building as a whole such that there is nothing the tenant can do to make amends.  A standard covenant is "not to perform any illegal or immoral activity...." and allowing your flat to be used as a brothel will get you into a whole host of potential problems.

I think this is a very helpful & succinct synopsis of Rugby School v Tannahill - Poor Mrs T lost her valuable lease of premises in (I think) Wimpole St.

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The risks would be:

 

Your landlord forfeiting the lease of your flat.

 

The bank taking possession proceedings.

 

Possible criminal offences (see Irgendeiners's post) as well as money laundering/ Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 considerations.

 

I see that somebody has even suggested that you run it as a brothel.

 

 

 

A wise decision.

Good post, clear and concise, i hope anyone else thinking of doing this reads it and the other similar posts about the possible consequences.

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Oh dear, half of MK have  :cool:

 

You cant even claim recompense without difficulty if you buy a new house and a year later it starts to subside. A few guys knocking on your door would I doubt put the previous owner to any inconvenience. Someone would have to prove he knew what was going on and indies tend to take bookings by appointment only so no one would be turning up unannounced anyway.

You could pursue the previous owner if information had been witheld in connection with that.

I am not sure what loss someone who bought a house run by hookers would be - perhaps none so you may be right there.

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I think this is a very helpful & succinct synopsis of Rugby School v Tannahill - Poor Mrs T lost her valuable lease of premises in (I think) Wimpole St.

 

I think it was Great Ormond Street and the premium for the lease was about £1,100. Still a sizeable sum in the 1930's even taking into account the relatively low property prices then compared with now.

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You could find the landlord forfeits the lease to your flat.  Not totally sure on Scottish law but in England you could run into serious problems if the landlord finds out.  Most leases contain covenants on what you must do or may not do.  They will also contain a clause allowing the landlord to forfeit the lease for a breach of covenant, albeit they will have to go to court to enforce this.  If the covenant is for instance to clean the inside of the windows and you don't this is called a redeemable breach of covenant.  The reason for this is that cleaning the windows will be deemed as sufficient to have redeemed the breach and a court will not enforce forfeiture.  Some breaches though are called irredeemable breaches.  This is where something has happened that will have severally damaged the reputation of the building as a whole such that there is nothing the tenant can do to make amends.  A standard covenant is "not to perform any illegal or immoral activity...." and allowing your flat to be used as a brothel will get you into a whole host of potential problems.

 

 

The risks would be:

 

Your landlord forfeiting the lease of your flat.

 

The bank taking possession proceedings.

 

Possible criminal offences (see Irgendeiners's post) as well as money laundering/ Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 considerations.

 

I see that somebody has even suggested that you run it as a brothel.

 

 

 

A wise decision.

 

Why oh why do people write answers without reading the post they are replying to??

 

There IS no landlord. The property belongs to the OP. If he DID decide to let it he would be in no different legal position to any other owner who lets to a working girl or any other tenant - unless perhaps he could be shown to have sought out multiple WGs as tenants in which case he could be seen to be managing a brothel.

 

That would be VERY difficult to prove.

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Great replies thanks! Was expecting to come back to a torrent of abuse.

 

To clarify, I am the owner of the property. I'm not renting it off of anyone else.

 

Legal issues, especially if it's considered as some kind of brothel by the law, well that would be one good reason to avoid this. But then surely I am merely renting a place out, then what the tenant gets up to is her own business.so long as it's within the tenancy agreement....which would obviously have a big empty void in that respect.

 

Interesting point about the potential decor/smell that may be residue in the property. I'd not considered that. Certainly wouldn't want a buyer entering to a smell of used condoms and a delicate aroma of perfume laced with man sweat.

 

To Lancelot, my only ulterior motive is to get some cash in the bank without fixing myself to a tenant that's going to drag a whole load of crap in to a flat and make it look messy. I'd considered this "arrangement" to be a working place for an escort and she'd go home to her own place at the end of the day.

 

Well have to say that there's probably zero chance of me following this one up. It might work nicely if everything went off without a hitch, but the potential problems could ultimately be massive headache.

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Thanks for that Tox, you beat me to it. I guess my original post became too much of a ramble for people to pick up on the bit where I said I was the owner. *wink*

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Why oh why do people write answers without reading the post they are replying to??

 

There IS no landlord. The property belongs to the OP. If he DID decide to let it he would be in no different legal position to any other owner who lets to a working girl or any other tenant - unless perhaps he could be shown to have sought out multiple WGs as tenants in which case he could be seen to be managing a brothel.

 

That would be VERY difficult to prove.

 

It's a flat. I don't know about Glasgow but down here it would be  a fairly safe assumption that it's not a freehold flat. Have you ever tried getting a mortgage on a freehold flat? So in E&W it's almost certainly going to be  leasehold. So any owner would still be a tenant even though they owned the flat. It's all hypothetical anyway, as he's already said that he's not seriously going to do it.

 

Difficult to prove! I think not.

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Thanks for that Tox, you beat me to it. I guess my original post became too much of a ramble for people to pick up on the bit where I said I was the owner. *wink*

I saw it first time in your opening post (you are the owner).

 

I wondered what all the references to landlords were about  :)

 

If you aren't going to do it now.... will there be any more posts after this one................ hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 

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