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Bait And Switch- How To Get Out Of It?

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Hi, basically i have seen an escort i may want to visit. at £180 per hour i want to make sure it is the girl in the photos and am willing to walk away if it is the wrong girl.

I tend not to walk out once i am in the room with the girl, so this has not happened to me before.

 

How to handle it? worst comes to worst... will they say pay half the price  etc and become threatening

 

Any experience on how some one has handled a bait/switch girl? Any tips, is walking out the norm in this case?

 

Many thanks guys

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I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but some agencies may send you a different girl if the one you chose isn't available. They like your money too much not to have your custom. Either that, or some girls are pretty unattractive in real life, so they use pictures of another girl to make unsuspecting guys and girls think it's her. As for going to their houses - I can see why that's uncomfortable if you show up and it's not who you thought it would be. You just need to stand your ground and say you aren't happy because you feel cheated. Don't undress. Don't open your wallet. Just walk away. That way you didn't lose your money. You may be embarrassed about having to speak up, but hey, at least you'll have saved, what? £200? :)

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It's only happened to me once, and was only my second punt so I was unprepared for it.

 

Especially as it was supposed to be the same girl I saw the week before (my first punt) who I loved! I was so shocked and disappointed it wasn't her that I couldn't think straight so I just went through with it, and had a pretty miserable time. She was nice enough but all the time I was just thinking about the girl I saw before and couldn't get turned on. I complained to the agency afterwards and they apologised and made sure I got my first choice from then on, and she became a regular. In fact she gave me her personal number and we dispensed with the agency after a while so there was no chance of switching then.

 

I resolved that if ever it happened again, I would just politely leave and explain why. And no I wouldn't pay anything if it's clearly not the girl advertised. Luckily this hasn't occurred again to me.

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I think the thing is is that you make sure the woman is going to be who she says she is in the first place! You can do this by checking out all the realms of information in agencies and indies on here!

 

It can hardly be confidence inspiring if you're worrying about it being the wrong girl when she arrives- focus on minimising the chances in the first place! 

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If your visiting her at her place..... you don't need to pay anything...... if it's not her just walk away, if you don't want to tell her the truth then make something up.... you forgot your wallet in the car, or you need to visit a cash machine etc.

 

If she is visiting you & is a bait n switch then it becomes a bit more tricky as you will probably have to pay a travel fee charge most likely £50.

 

You can name the agency here & ask for feedback about them, someone might be able to tell you if the agency has a history of B&S or can be trusted ( same goes for the girl)

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Hi, basically i have seen an escort i may want to visit. at £180 per hour i want to make sure it is the girl in the photos and am willing to walk away if it is the wrong girl.

I tend not to walk out once i am in the room with the girl, so this has not happened to me before.

 

How to handle it? worst comes to worst... will they say pay half the price  etc and become threatening

 

Any experience on how some one has handled a bait/switch girl? Any tips, is walking out the norm in this case?

 

Many thanks guys

It will depend on the WG what her reaction is, i have had verbal abuse followed by doors slamming behind me, and i thought one EE WG was going to get violent so as ever left as fast as i could. In the case of bait and switch if the WG works alone you will know as soon as she opens her door to you that she isnt the WG in the photos so could just walk off. If she works with other WGs in the same premises it might be one of her colleagues that opens the dooe of course so you will go inside before you see her. Just quickly make your way out, certainly dont give a liar any money unless you have to is my advice. Some punters think with their dicks, i did myself for years and will stay and punt anyway, which is what these liars rely on.

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Luckily I have never had to make that decision. It must be awful, I am in a state of anticipation and nerves when I knock on the door so having to "man up" and walk off takes a real switch of emotions.

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If you point us towards the girl's profile Dan, other members might be able to help you spot a B&S profile/site using reverse image search and personal experience. You obviously have some suspicions already. 

 

Some good advice above. From the moment the door opens you have limited time in which to try and think clearly, assess the situation (is it a totally different girl or just a bad case of photoshop or outdated photos?) and decide what to do. The 'pay half price' option is a total non-starter.

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Can't you use 'tineye' to make sure the girl you are seeing is definitely the girl in the picture for starters?  If she is using someone else's photo then it's anyone's guess who will open the door from one day to the next.--

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Use tineye and similar to see if the photos are real or just stolen from models, etc.

 

Walk out (politely) if the girl is not the one you were expecting.  Have done this 2 or 3 times and never had a problem.  One time the agency did phone me straight after I'd left to ask why.  I told them that the girl was the same person but that she was both considerably older and considerably fatter than her webpage photo. 

 

I have no problems with a bit of photoshopping or with the girl being a little older, etc than advertised but it is a question of the degree of misrepresentation.

 

At the end of the day, it's your money. You might buy the car if it had a few more scratches than you expected but would you still pay if you discovered the Mercedes was actually a VW, or the mileage was considerably higher than represented in the ad?

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It's only happened to me once, and was only my second punt so I was unprepared for it.

 

Especially as it was supposed to be the same girl I saw the week before (my first punt) who I loved! I was so shocked and disappointed it wasn't her that I couldn't think straight so I just went through with it, and had a pretty miserable time. She was nice enough but all the time I was just thinking about the girl I saw before and couldn't get turned on. I complained to the agency afterwards and they apologised and made sure I got my first choice from then on, and she became a regular. In fact she gave me her personal number and we dispensed with the agency after a while so there was no chance of switching then.

 

I resolved that if ever it happened again, I would just politely leave and explain why. And no I wouldn't pay anything if it's clearly not the girl advertised. Luckily this hasn't occurred again to me.

Had something similar happen to me,although in my case the previous punter ended up extending by two hours.I was informed when he extended by the first hour,and as i wasnt busy i did a little tourist tour and came back.When he extended for a second hour the lady who used to do the door,i suppose youd say the maid but she also worked there made a recomendation of someone i may like instead.Bloody hell was she right.Was my best ever punt.Technically not bait and switch but some would see it that way

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First up, you're under no obligation at all to go through with it. (I've heard legends that sometime somebody even better looking turns up. Never happened to me.)

 

And second... there's certainly no moral reason to offer any compo. (What's the logic of bunging somebody 50 quid because they have tried to con you??)

 

If its an outcall, the old "Left money in car, will be right back" stance is a good old stand by.

 

And... before others point it out... I accept that it might be best to pay a cancellation fee IF its the only way to get away in safety. But its got naff all to do with the people who set out to trick you deserving any dough!

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Hi, basically i have seen an escort i may want to visit. at £180 per hour i want to make sure it is the girl in the photos and am willing to walk away if it is the wrong girl.

I tend not to walk out once i am in the room with the girl, so this has not happened to me before.

 

How to handle it? worst comes to worst... will they say pay half the price  etc and become threatening

 

Any experience on how some one has handled a bait/switch girl? Any tips, is walking out the norm in this case?

 

Many thanks guys

 

Well post the ladies profile and we will check out the photos.

 

If you do go to visit her, maybe take a print out of her page with you to compare, or have It ready on your phone.

If It's not her then tell her you're not staying, tell her why, and say you don't like to be cheated, and don't give her a penny.

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As just mentioned by another poster, it recently dawned on me that, having done this once by accident, an easy non-confrontational solution if you realise you've been bait and switched is to be all smiles but then open your wallet and exclaim, "Oh shit how embarrassing, I totally forgot to take money out before I came. I'm so sorry, is there a cash point nearby?"

 

Then run for the hills...well once you've got out the front door at least.

 

Of course you need to make sure you keep your money elsewhere. Not really going to work if you open your wallet with a load of bulging twenties inside.

 

They may suspect something's up, but I imagine their lust for your money will override any concerns they have.

 

Or if you really want to be as mean as they are, pop out a cheque book asking, "So who should I make this payable to?", with a totally innocent expression on.

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As just mentioned by another poster, it recently dawned on me that, having done this once by accident, an easy non-confrontational solution if you realise you've been bait and switched is to be all smiles but then open your wallet and exclaim, "Oh shit how embarrassing, I totally forgot to take money out before I came. I'm so sorry, is there a cash point nearby?"

 

Then run for the hills...well once you've got out the front door at least.

 

Of course you need to make sure you keep your money elsewhere. Not really going to work if you open your wallet with a load of bulging twenties inside.

 

They may suspect something's up, but I imagine their lust for your money will override any concerns they have.

 

Or if you really want to be as mean as they are, pop out a cheque book asking, "So who should I make this payable to?", with a totally innocent expression on.

 

Yes you could do that, but why even avoid confrontation? Tell the lying cow the truth, you're not going to give her your hard earned cash.

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I am totally against this dispicable form of deceit but I think honesty is the best form of response.

 

Guys who use the 'left wallet in the car' or 'have to go to a cash machine' really just make themselves look stupid and wimpish.

 

If a girl has deceived you she deserves to be told that you are NOT that stupid and do know the difference between her and the one in the pix.

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I am totally against this dispicable form of deceit but I think honesty is the best form of response.

 

Guys who use the 'left wallet in the car' or 'have to go to a cash machine' really just make themselves look stupid and wimpish.

 

If a girl has deceived you she deserves to be told that you are NOT that stupid and do know the difference between her and the one in the pix.

 

Jerboa/ GoodTimeGal

Just no point on taking a confrontational approach. There's no point in having a slanging match, or giving any hired muscle who may be nearby an excuse for action. Life is nearly always easier if you just take the action that produces the result you want (in this case leaving without parting with any money) while letting the other party an easy get out clause. 

 

And I doubt that I'm the only one who doesn't give a monkeys what some con artist I'll never see again thinks about me. 

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Just no point on taking a confrontational approach. There's no point in having a slanging match, or giving any hired muscle who may be nearby an excuse for action. Life is nearly always easier if you just take the action that produces the result you want (in this case leaving without parting with any money) while letting the other party an easy get out clause. 

 

And I doubt that I'm the only one who doesn't give a monkeys what some con artist I'll never see again thinks about me. 

I have to agree with this.Theres no point in escalating the matter needlessly when theres an easier way to handle things.sy you are very abrupt with them.As said above,what if they have security there.I know a few on here say they wont do a thing as they wouldnt want the police called.Personally i think theyre more likely to do something to you figuring tha no one wants their wife,relations,work collegues etc to know what theyve been up to so you are unlikely to report them.Clip joints have been operating on this priciple for years.By scarpering you also hit them in the only way they really care about,by the loss of your cash

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If you need to leg it just say you've left your wallet in the car. What girl is going to want a guy on the premises without folding???

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I have to agree with this.Theres no point in escalating the matter needlessly when theres an easier way to handle things.sy you are very abrupt with them.As said above,what if they have security there.I know a few on here say they wont do a thing as they wouldnt want the police called.Personally i think theyre more likely to do something to you figuring tha no one wants their wife,relations,work collegues etc to know what theyve been up to so you are unlikely to report them.Clip joints have been operating on this priciple for years.By scarpering you also hit them in the only way they really care about,by the loss of your cash

Then good luck to any security who want to play with me, I'm not saying come out shouting at the woman, tell her you're not impressed by the lying, and just leave, why be weak?

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Exactly as people say, why create a potentially dangerous confrontation when there's an easy solution. It's not weak, it's smart. There've been a number of posts on here of heavies coming in and threatening a punter, so it does happen. The odds of there being some muscle nearby are probably increased exponentially if you find yourself visiting an escort that's blatantly lying over one that's honest. This isn't about returning unwanted goods to a shop for a refund. Escorting does have a seedy nasty underground which I'd prefer to avoid where I can. I quite like my face the way it is and I don't want to have to explain to people how I got it slashed by some nutter while standing my ground with a lying escort. Nope, I'll take the lying approach thanks but feel free to stand your ground. Darwin and all that.

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We should remember that the fault of B&S lies mainly with agencies, not the girls. So it's important to not be rude to the girl, it's probably not her fault she is being misrepresented.

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The OP's situation could be complicated for a punter like me who has a physical disability and would definitely come off second best in any, erm, "dispute" with a minder.  It's never happened to me because I habitually see Independent UK MILFs and this is one reason why.

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If you are booking through an agency, tell them in advance that you will not go through the appointment if it is not the lady in the advertised photo.

 

Don't bother using Tineye, it is nowhere near as good as Google Image Search.

 

Just get the Google search screen, click on Image in the tabs offered, and feed in her image. It will show you where else on the net the image can be found, and in some cases will turn up over 10 pages of hits for her.

 

B & S is very common, especially with Asian sites.  

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Then good luck to any security who want to play with me, I'm not saying come out shouting at the woman, tell her you're not impressed by the lying, and just leave, why be weak?

Take it youre not married or anything.For those in a relationship the last thing theyd want is to return home with either marks they have to explain,or,if as often happens when neighbours see/hear a disturbance,call the old bill and have to explain why they were lifted.It's got nothing to do with how "hard" you are.

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