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Proposal To Ban All Forms Of Porn In The Eu In All Media

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they will have to ban proxy servers too.

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can't see this being popular in the Netherlands, or in Germany, bith of which are more liberal than the UK.

 

What about TV shows?  True BLood, Game of Thrones, The Soprano's could all be described as having pornographic elements to them, would they be banned?

 

Will the EU compensate the producers of top shelf magazines who find their legitimate businesses are now illegal?  Will the Sun stop publishing page 3?

 

The legal challenges to something like this will drag on for years, and cost millions!

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This is just Feminist showboating- apart from being overarching censorship it's unenforcable & in any case, despite the EU regulating everything from the shape of bananas to the size of font on labels, it'd never be possible to land on a consensus of what defines pornography.

Ironic that the Swedish Pirate Party ( who don't 'believe' In copyright) where the ones to call halt ;->

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How do they define "porn"? It can range from basic nudity to forms of extreme perversion; where does one draw the line?

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How do they define "porn"? It can range from basic nudity to forms of extreme perversion; where does one draw the line?

Then youve got the other argument thats been had many times over the years,"When does porn become art?"

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This will never happen. It is too easy to get round internet blocks just look at the way Pirate Bay and similar sites were banned. Millions of people can get round the blocks in seconds. 

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The pirate bay was blocked in the UK almost a year ago, I wonder how successful that has been in stopping people getting to it?

 

A Google search for "pirate bay" shows dozens of proxies which were created especially for the pirate bay. That means one doesn't even need to know what a proxy is since one can actually get around the block so easily by accident.

 

How do they define "porn"? It can range from basic nudity to forms of extreme perversion; where does one draw the line?

 

That's the problem, everyone will draw the line at different places. And then there's the issue of nudity in non-sexual contexts for example art, health, and naturism.

 

Then if porn is banned and art isn't we are suddenly going to have an explosion of naked people videos masquerading as "art" :)

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The legal challenges to something like this will drag on for years, and cost millions!

 

Perhaps the whole idea. MEP's don't want to be out of a job do they ?

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Anyone remember a while back when the bbfc went on a crusade against video nasties by refusing to certificate them.Well the film companies released them uncertificated.then it became an offence to release an uncertificated film thus banning a whole lot of movies.Then,a while back now,Ol Dirty Desmond started a campaign against them saying it was down to consenting adult what they wished to watch and that the bbfc was exceeding their own guidelines in order to only allow that which the personally deemd appropriate viewing material.It went to court and he won as the bbfc guidelines state something along the lines of no sexual violence,or anything thats already illegal,ie animals or kids.Im paraphrasing but you get the gist.
This victory meant they had to certificate material they would normally have fefused.so on top of loads of 70's and 80's horror classice,but finally the sex shops could actually and legally stock hard core pornography.Previously as some will remember,it was heavily edited.I bring this up as now the bbfc is trying to get their guidelines changed to give them more power to decide what we can watch and would effectively ban the sale of pornographic films in the uk.This would be based purely on content and irrispective of whether it was marketed as an art movie

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Today, 625 members of the European Parliament voted 368-159 in favor of passing a report aimed at stamping out gender stereotypes in the region, with 98 abstaining.

However, the controversial "porn ban" section of the proposal was rejected.

 

Because the opinion of the Parliament has now been made, it will be extraordinarily difficult for the Commission to draw up similar porn-blocking legislation only to pass it back to the Parliament for another vote.

 

Amendments to the report removed certain explanatory text, but not the references to the previous resolution that was passed by the Parliament, which called for a blanket ban on pornography in the region in 1997.

While the explanation was removed, the effect was not, according to Swedish MEP for the Pirate Party Rick Falkvinge.

He explained that a "split vote" was called on to delete the sentence -- "which called for a ban on all forms of pornography in the media" -- but in spite of this, the 1997 resolution remains referenced, and therefore the call to ban "all forms of pornography in the media" remains intact.

Falkvinge said that striking out this text "has no other effect than deliberately obscuring the purpose of the new report."

But to make matters worse, when a handful of MEPs called on their citizens to e-mail their representatives in protest, the parliament's own IT department began to block these e-mails en masse from arriving in politicians' inboxes.

Pirate Party member Christian Engström, who first brought the news to light, called the move an "absolute disgrace", and said that he would complain to the Parliament's president about this "totally undemocratic practice."

 

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57573771-93/eu-votes-to-reject-porn-ban-proposals/

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it was LOL

This is just Feminist showboating- apart from being overarching censorship it's unenforcable & in any case, despite the EU regulating everything from the shape of bananas to the size of font on labels,;->

A suggestively held banana could well be pornographic.

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