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Why Are Some Wgs So Coy On The Phone?

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It doesn't make sense sometimes.  Why do they sometimes give such terse details?

 

if you ask them where they are, they may say something as non-descript as "Manchester".  Well duh, Manchester is a big place.  Where in Manchester?  The city centre?  Moss Side?  lol..

 

It also seems counter-productive, since punters just get put off due to the coyness.  Another thing is that I don't see how it's possible to sift through timewasters.  Even if a punter seems enthusiastic on the phone, he may change his mind after enquiring or find another WG suited to his needs.  I must admit that I do this sometimes (,i.e. "cold call" and not follow up), but just because I call it doesn't mean I'm under obligation to visit and fuck lol...  If one calls an Indian takeaway about the prices of its naan bread, that doesn't involve an obligation to buy, how can it?  And the takeaway logically cares as much about revenue as a WG does lol...

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Probably they are fed up with the amount of time wasters who phone & ask tons of questions that are probably answered in their websites or profiles & have no intention of booking or just get a kick out of chatting to a SP on the phone but have not got the balls to go & see them.

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I think a lot of girls are a bit "professional" on the phone so they dont give possible phone wankers something to actually enjoy. They are so adept at sounding normal (the phone wankers) that usually its impossible to know till you hear the tell tale little noise at the end before they hang up..or you do. Chatting in a flirty seductive voice at length would encourage them to phone again possibly. 

 

Other than that I really dont know x

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Probably they are fed up with the amount of time wasters who phone & ask tons of questions that are probably answered in their websites or profiles & have no intention of booking or just get a kick out of chatting to a SP on the phone but have not got the balls to go & see them.

I ask where they got my number. If they say the paper then fair enough, I give detailed answers. If they say my website then to be honest it does piss me off when they ask the basics such as what do i look like? what services do i offer? as these are all on my website. If a guy cant be bothered to have a quick look then how can he be bothered to sit on the phone for ten minutes. If someone is just asking for confirmation of certain services he has seen listed though then thats different. 

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Probably they are fed up with the amount of time wasters who phone & ask tons of questions that are probably answered in their websites or profiles & have no intention of booking or just get a kick out of chatting to a SP on the phone but have not got the balls to go & see them.

Very true. Plus I've been in pubs / restaurants having a meal, supermarkets etc and heard WGs trying to answer questions from total dickheads even when they've said 'I'm at the tills in ASDA' etc when they've said read my profile rather than yes I do swallow, Most will give an area of a town rather than an actual address until a booking is confirmed. WGs do 'normal' stuff too as sitting their in lingerie waiting for the phone to ring.

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"Got your number from the website, how much is it?"

 

"Hi Ruth I'd like to make a one hour appointment at 2pm tomorrow, can you confirm your rate for that?"


First guy is highly unlikely to book, has probably seen a phone number and isn't looking for any one in particular, second one is more likely to have read my information and be interested in seeing me and be more likely to follow through.

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Bethom- in some ways your post contains an answer to the question. When you ring a take-away they'll tell you what's on the menu & what it costs...but if you're clearly just 'window-shopping' - are they really going to tell you about their interior decor and what year they opened their doors etc?

 

As alluded to above, most WGs get tons of calls from sados looking for 'free' phone sex or guys who have no intention of actually following up for a session..so why would you expect them to indulge anything other than a factual exchange?

 

While solicitation is legal in the UK, lets face it it falls into a grey area and somethings this can be a dangerous game with some weird dudes punting....imho, the only thing that's surprising is that your average provider isn't more coy!

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Bethom- in some ways your post contains an answer to the question. When you ring a take-away they'll tell you what's on the menu & what it costs...but if you're clearly just 'window-shopping' - are they really going to tell you about their interior decor and what year they opened their doors etc?

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A takeaway offers food, a WG offers sex.  The fact is in another contexts/industries, basic inquiries are not shunned, and they hold as much right to complain about potential lost revenue as a WG.  Most persons sell products for revenue, not out of the goodness of one's heart.  

 

I understand that, but as WGs cannot control punters on their home or cell phones, then this is to be expected to some extent.  In honesty, I don't have much sympathy for WGs for that reason.

 

My point is that it can put punters off who do want to visit them, due to the coyness.  Also, I've never heard of bait and switch in the UK like they have in the USA, since paying for sex is technically legal here.  Adverts per se are legal, provided they are not overtly sexual.  I don't think there is much the police can do under existing legislation.

Em...YEAH...you keep making the point that every biz controls access...whatever about the context, if you walk into Tesco's they're offering to sell you groceries- they're not obliged to do so, principle is precisely the same with WGs...if you don't like an offering, move on, Escorts don't need nor couldn't care less about your 'sympathy'.

 

Forget the law- that's not relevant in context you're speaking to. Even if you do your homework well & have never experienced b&s yourself, to suggest that it doesn't happen in UK is farcical- go read a few FRs. Appreciate it's the wee hours in Blighty- have you been drinking? :blink:;)

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Em...YEAH...you keep making the point that every biz controls access...whatever about the context, if you walk into Tesco's they're offering to sell you groceries- they're not obliged to do so, principle is precisely the same with WGs...if you don't like an offering, move on, Escorts don't need nor couldn't care less about your 'sympathy'.

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yeah usually i ask what part of town they are based. certain parts i will not go to.

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That's illogical.  I can walk in and out of a Tesco store and be harassed by the manager.  If WGs wish to complain about people phoning and not arranging visits, that's their prerogative.  However, the punters don't owe them visits.  If they cannot accept that, that's their business, not mine.

Precisely- so why bother bleating about it?

 

Yeah, a few incidents out of many that occur is consequential.  Has it ever occurred to you?  I doubt the police give much a fuck about parlours or flats, it's largely the street girls they target or if they have tips on trafficked girls.  As paying for sex is not illegal, there is little they can do to arrest and charge a punter.  Drinking what?

It sounds like you're drinking meths lol :P . Don't misinterpret me, on one level I fully 'get' what you're on about...but it's intuitively obvious why WGs are to the point in the phone, you would be too if you had to deal with blokes jerking-off/rambling/drunks/time wasters blah blah. You're getting a wee bit wrapped up with the legal thing, I merely offered that as a tangential aside, of course 'regular' punting is way down plod priorities'...but the interface of this game with pimping & drugs is more than inconsequential (no offence but it sounds like you haven't been punting very long). Has bait & switch happened to me in the UK? You betcha- but you either turn on your heel or take the punt- them's the choices brother. Don't lose too much sleep over this malarkey mate.

 

Anyhoo, it's Saturday evening in the city that never sleeps..and I'm heading out for some oat sodas. Until next time.

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Why would you ring a wg you are not interested in seeing?Someone mentioned it being akin to tescos,well like tescos we have websites and profiles where you can peruse the goods as it were.So surely do that perusing,look at the goods,read about them and rthen ring.On average out of ten phone calls we will maybe get 2 guys that actually have bothered to read about our services,the rates and what part of the city we are in.The rest like you Bethom will cold call and not follow through and quite often I for one can tell.I will answer a certain amount of questions and then quite frankly you think..timewaster just window shopping.

I had a perfect example today..bloke rang seemed a bit vague about knowing anything about me but reasonably polite.Arranged to meet at 2pm finished the call and he literally rang back and proceeded to ask me the same questions and arrange the same booking time with me...I pointed out he had already spoke to me and arranged a booking??Turns out he had called dozens of girls that day cold calling them and had got my number mixed up with someone with another girls that presumably he wanted to see more than me.I told him booking was cancelled as basically some poor cow would have had a no show either way and i think thats shitty.He rang and texted saying sorry and could he still see me but I just thought yep matey you got caught out as being a timewaster...just a thougt but if this is something you do..ring and not follow through,perhaps you have done it more than once to a few girls and they have tou in their phone as a phone wanker.

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Precisely- so why bother bleating about it?

 

It sounds like you're drinking meths lol :P . Don't misinterpret me, on one level I fully 'get' what you're on about...but it's intuitively obvious why WGs are to the point in the phone, you would be too if you had to deal with blokes jerking-off/rambling/drunks/time wasters blah blah. You're getting a wee bit wrapped up with the legal thing, I merely offered that as a tangential aside, of course 'regular' punting is way down plod priorities'...but the interface of this game with pimping & drugs is more than inconsequential (no offence but it sounds like you haven't been punting very long). Has bait & switch happened to me in the UK? You betcha- but you either turn on your heel or take the punt- them's the choices brother. Don't lose too much sleep over this malarkey mate.

 

Anyhoo, it's Saturday evening in the city that never sleeps..and I'm heading out for some oat sodas. Until next time.

 

"bleating" about what?  I personally don't care if they get "offended" at punters cold calling.  It's not even something they can prevent.  Find another vocation if they cannot take a few negative experiences.

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Why would you ring a wg you are not interested in seeing?Someone mentioned it being akin to tescos,well like tescos we have websites and profiles where you can peruse the goods as it were.So surely do that perusing,look at the goods,read about them and rthen ring.On average out of ten phone calls we will maybe get 2 guys that actually have bothered to read about our services,the rates and what part of the city we are in.The rest like you Bethom will cold call and not follow through and quite often I for one can tell.I will answer a certain amount of questions and then quite frankly you think..timewaster just window shopping.

I had a perfect example today..bloke rang seemed a bit vague about knowing anything about me but reasonably polite.Arranged to meet at 2pm finished the call and he literally rang back and proceeded to ask me the same questions and arrange the same booking time with me...I pointed out he had already spoke to me and arranged a booking??Turns out he had called dozens of girls that day cold calling them and had got my number mixed up with someone with another girls that presumably he wanted to see more than me.I told him booking was cancelled as basically some poor cow would have had a no show either way and i think thats shitty.He rang and texted saying sorry and could he still see me but I just thought yep matey you got caught out as being a timewaster...just a thougt but if this is something you do..ring and not follow through,perhaps you have done it more than once to a few girls and they have tou in their phone as a phone wanker.

 

lol..     As said, I don't think calling does or should denote an obligation to visit.  Besides, phones and/or SIMs are cheap, so there's no obvious means a WG can blank all numbers, or remember all voices for that matter.  

 

I cold call to get a feel of where to visit.  If I call a parlour and they say they have only blondes working there, then I wouldn't go as I don't like blondes.  It saves a wasted journey by car otherwise.  

 

It may not seem "fair", but I like to spend my money on an informed basis.  Besides, it goes both ways.  What about WGs who flagrantly lie to potential punters on the phone just to get business?  lol...  IMO, that is worse than cold calling.  

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It doesn't make sense sometimes.  Why do they sometimes give such terse details?

 

if you ask them where they are, they may say something as non-descript as "Manchester".  Well duh, Manchester is a big place.  Where in Manchester?  The city centre?  Moss Side?  lol..

 

It also seems counter-productive, since punters just get put off due to the coyness.  Another thing is that I don't see how it's possible to sift through timewasters.  Even if a punter seems enthusiastic on the phone, he may change his mind after enquiring or find another WG suited to his needs.  I must admit that I do this sometimes (,i.e. "cold call" and not follow up), but just because I call it doesn't mean I'm under obligation to visit and fuck lol...  If one calls an Indian takeaway about the prices of its naan bread, that doesn't involve an obligation to buy, how can it?  And the takeaway logically cares as much about revenue as a WG does lol...

Oddly enough i've never had that.When i've called i've never been told,London,but then i ask for things like nearest station etc.If you have had that reply,why not ask what part?You admit yourself you're a cold caller,perhaps by the way you handle yourself on the phone it puts the ladies off or lets them know.And as for calling a take away enquiring on thier goods/prices.Again,something i've never done as if i didn't know what they did,i wouldn't be calling them in the first place.

What is this phone coyness you are harping on about.If you want them to do a full run down on everything on offer,what they look like,price list etc,i dont think thats going to happen,and i for one am glad as theyd be spending all their time on the phone with no time left for bookings.

As for your last comments,theres a big difference in phoning a parlour that has someone manning the phones to just make a quick enquirey to calling an indie for the amount of info you seem to want

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No problem with confirming details however some callers are just rude and being human, no matter how good a professional front I or any other lady puts on there's going to be an automatic reaction which is to hold back.

 

Whilst I sympathise with clients who been duped by dodgy profiles I have a comprehensive, up-dated website with links reports and reviews.

 

To have someone phone after seeing that and shout "Ow much is it?" as a greeting, followed by a "describe everything you will do to me" or "wots the address luv?" is not going to get a fabulously open armed reaction. If it happens to me reasonably frequently, someone who's filtered through a lot of TWs then I can only imagine how much it must happen to newer ladies.

 

Some ladies do have a policy of not divulging any details about services offered, for them they say it prevents folk from having a nice phone/text-chat-wank. That's how they wish to operate and it works for them. Other's are of the mistaken belief that divulging services breaks the law in some way. Advertising on the internet and talking about services offered on the phone or by email is in no way illegal.

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 I don't think there is much the police can do under existing legislation.

 

Well, they've certainly frightened most of the local papers from taking WG's small ads, haven't they?

 

More to the point on your original posting, a WG who offers free phone sex is daft - her 'phone will never be on the hook, but her door-bell won't ring?

 

Does any WG want the Sun's idle reporter to give a full run down on what she offers, together with her address?

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"Got your number from the website, how much is it?"

 

"Hi Ruth I'd like to make a one hour appointment at 2pm tomorrow, can you confirm your rate for that?"

First guy is highly unlikely to book, has probably seen a phone number and isn't looking for any one in particular, second one is more likely to have read my information and be interested in seeing me and be more likely to follow through.

For me the first guy is unlikely to get a booking, never mind to book:)

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Very true. Plus I've been in pubs / restaurants having a meal, supermarkets etc and heard WGs trying to answer questions from total dickheads even when they've said 'I'm at the tills in ASDA' etc when they've said read my profile rather than yes I do swallow, Most will give an area of a town rather than an actual address until a booking is confirmed. WGs do 'normal' stuff too as sitting their in lingerie waiting for the phone to ring.

This is one thing I can never understand Mike.  Why take a call in a public place anyway?

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This is one thing I can never understand Mike.  Why take a call in a public place anyway?

Because not everyone sits around taking calls between certain times. If I know I'm going to be in a situation where I really cannot speak, then I set my VM advising to call back at a time more convenient however there are times I nip in town. If a regular phones it's easy enough to discretely arrange an appointment(or ask them to send a quick text which quite a few regulars do anyway. If I am at the til or in the bank I'll answer and ask them to phone back in a couple of minutes. Sometimes I've advised I can answer yes and no questions because I'm somewhere public but there's always one who wants a graphic description, which only serves to put me off whatever the circumstance.

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Because not everyone sits around taking calls between certain times. If I know I'm going to be in a situation where I really cannot speak, then I set my VM advising to call back at a time more convenient however there are times I nip in town. If a regular phones it's easy enough to discretely arrange an appointment(or ask them to send a quick text which quite a few regulars do anyway. If I am at the til or in the bank I'll answer and ask them to phone back in a couple of minutes. Sometimes I've advised I can answer yes and no questions because I'm somewhere public but there's always one who wants a graphic description, which only serves to put me off whatever the circumstance.

And clients often don't make contact in the time you are free, completely alone in your inner sanctum.

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Why would you ring a wg you are not interested in seeing?Someone mentioned it being akin to tescos,well like tescos we have websites and profiles where you can peruse the goods as it were.So surely do that perusing,look at the goods,read about them and rthen ring.On average out of ten phone calls we will maybe get 2 guys that actually have bothered to read about our services,the rates and what part of the city we are in.The rest like you Bethom will cold call and not follow through and quite often I for one can tell.I will answer a certain amount of questions and then quite frankly you think..timewaster just window shopping.

I had a perfect example today..bloke rang seemed a bit vague about knowing anything about me but reasonably polite.Arranged to meet at 2pm finished the call and he literally rang back and proceeded to ask me the same questions and arrange the same booking time with me...I pointed out he had already spoke to me and arranged a booking??Turns out he had called dozens of girls that day cold calling them and had got my number mixed up with someone with another girls that presumably he wanted to see more than me.I told him booking was cancelled as basically some poor cow would have had a no show either way and i think thats shitty.He rang and texted saying sorry and could he still see me but I just thought yep matey you got caught out as being a timewaster...just a thougt but if this is something you do..ring and not follow through,perhaps you have done it more than once to a few girls and they have tou in their phone as a phone wanker.

come on, bibi, noone reads all the crap on the internet.  When you buy shoes do you read the terms and conditions?

 

I'm sorry.  Taking calls from prospective customers is called customer service.Thw girls that are friendly on the phone will get business, those that are arsey wont.

And remember, bkokes dont always have the web to hand. I have a load of girls in my phone address book but can't always go online to check details, even with  a smartphone.  So i may have to ask rates etc. 

Yes I know girls are scared of being wank fodder, but be careful you dont throw the baby out with the bath water!

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And clients often don't make contact in the time you are free, completely alone in your inner sanctum.

 

Stawberry your stuff is great.  But girls moan about calls at inconvenient times, but dont bother to give their working hours on the web, so how am i sposed to know I can call at 11pm or thats its OK to call at 9am?

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Stawberry your stuff is great.  But girls moan about calls at inconvenient times, but dont bother to give their working hours on the web, so how am i sposed to know I can call at 11pm or thats its OK to call at 9am?

I don't know, it's not that difficult to turn your phone off or put it on silent if you don't want to be bothered. If I answer a call outside my 'hours' that's my look out, what I don't however like is when I do answer such a call and the person then takes that as the norm, or starts to badger when I've said I'm not available/don't usually take calls that time of night/morning.

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