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Who writes this stuff? Unbelivable Garbage

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I don't know I have seen some dangerous looking Liberal Democrats in that area.

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I'm new to this, but when reading old FRs it seems to me that the price of a half-hour has been keeping up with inflation.

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Who writes this stuff? Unbelivable Garbage

What proof do you have that this study is 'unbelievable garbage'?

Since only a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of Working Girls even post on this Forum, this Forum is not an accurate indicator of whether that report is true or not.

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I assume there must be some truth in it.

I think it's much much harder for new women in the industry than it used to be. In my area alone the number of women on AW has doubled in the last 3.5 years and I would suspect an increase would be found in most places. Prices have also dropped and there are a hell of a lot of women charging £60-£80 an hour- I have gone from being at the cheaper end to the higher end (and only raised my hourly rate a tenner).

 

In my area it is mainly EE women all run by a small number of cartels judging from the location/similar profiles and anecdotes from clients. So with more women, increasing rents and less money about of course there are those who will accept lower rates, be less fussy about their clients and offer services they may not enjoy. Of course those who have pimps are more vulnerable if the person they work for doesn't care who the girls see.  

 

As I mentioned it's harder for new women, I think men who may have less money these days and as more become more aware of trafficking (especially now it's illegal to have sex with a trafficked woman)  would rather pay a bit more or punt less with women who they are sure are happy, not trafficked and have a good reputation.

 

Women, like many on here who have been doing it a while will have solid client bases or regulars as well as the semi regular (I have guys who see me as their once a year treat!) long term websites, reviews and so on which helps hugely. This of course reduces the market for those women (brothels and agencies) who are starting up or do not have a good reputation.

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This is my experience and my observations.

 

More men than ever are paying for sex thanks to increased accessibility of the internet. The increase in service providers however has been massive, where there were two profiles there are now 60. Genuine, punters have become diluted, genuine bookings much less. Some ladies are reducing their prices, or at least they've stayed fairly static. When a provider is quiet they are more likely to break their own procedures, or rules. I take on far fewer bookings than ever these days which is a result of several things, including not bending my rules like I used to, having more things going on with my other interests/projects, and generally less business out there. To me my safety and sanity are far more important and I'm in the lucky position where I don't have to chase the £££s and bookings, but those newer to the business with high expectations or debt issues might be under a lot more pressure.

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good british women are keeping their prices IMHO.

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One thing that I find annoying about these sorts of articles is the phrase "underreporting" or the old Rule of 10. Since the official figures are not alarming enough or do not prove the case, the advocates resort to saying "only 1 in 10 report it to the police" or the like. Figures get inflated and hysteria rises.

I have noticed no decrease in prices. But there has been no real increase either. But I would be very suspicious of a £60 a hour offer personally

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I would say that my regular ladies that I have been seeing for years are maintaining their prices, but haven't increased them for at least 3 years.  These are well established ladies with goods reputations and plenty of regular, repeat customers, but even they say business is quite at the moment.

 

The new girls in town however (some EE, some not) are definitely offering prices significantly below those of the more established ladies (maybe £30 - £50 less for an hour).  Despite this, they don't seem to be that busy either - I think there is a lot of competition at the bottom end of the market.

 

I also see more and more "cheap" girls offering bareback.  This trend disturbs me greatly, and I can only assume that there is a large market for this.  There must be more blokes who want bareback than are put off a girl who offers bareback.

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I think the sting is in the tail. A £54,000 grant to combat the problem. No one is going to say the problem is about okay and miss up on that kind of money!

Cheap girls offering bareback eh? Now that's a really interesting offer. How about they offer a thrill screw, hold a gun with one bullet in the chamber to your head? Gotta love those punters who risk their luck and lives!!!! Not.

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the story may be true, though it only relates to one part of central London,and not all of the country.

 

That said, I think the numbers of WGs in specific areas has remained static, and for a long period.  I started punting in 1998, and in my town there always have been about 10-20 advertised parlours, flats, and escorts in operation.  these change of course (in terms of exact location), but it's been about the same.  Prices have also been more or less static.  60 pounds is the rate here for sex in a parlour, and has been for some time.  Independents' prices haven't changed much either.  

 

I think the people who write these media articles live in an ivory tower, or are otherwise disconnected from how things really are.  

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One thing that I find annoying about these sorts of articles is the phrase "underreporting" or the old Rule of 10. Since the official figures are not alarming enough or do not prove the case, the advocates resort to saying "only 1 in 10 report it to the police" or the like. Figures get inflated and hysteria rises.

 

You mean like this:

 

Cheap girls offering bareback eh? Now that's a really interesting offer. How about they offer a thrill screw, hold a gun with one bullet in the chamber to your head? Gotta love those punters who risk their luck and lives!!!! Not.

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In The Times is a small article relating to WGs having to cut their rates by 50% due to the recession aswell as the market becoming saturated and lack of demand. Westminster City Council carried a study funded by the Department of Health. There is also a response by a spokeswoman from the English Collective of Prostitutes. Who is this body? A trade union for prostitutes? Hope they don't call a strike or work to rule.

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refuse to visit that piece of shit site the BBC xxxxx

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Would you care to elaborate? xx

refuse to visit that piece of shit site the BBC xxxxx

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Id say that there is an increase on the amount of people who use Adultwork, and they tend to be on the cheaper rate than your more profesional escort.

 

there is also the semi retired escort who does it for the attention and sex as well as the money.

 

And the out of work student/worker who see it as an easy way to get a debt re-paid.

 

I dont know how many part timers there is for each escort who is profesional and has a web-site, but I would definetly say that there is an upsurge in the amount advertising on AW, and that is keeping the average price down.

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I don't think prices have changed in the last 15 years or so which means they have dropped in real terms. Around 2000 - 2004 there were some girls who were making mega money and several invested wisely or retired abroad. I doubt if many girls make anything like those sums now. 

Escorting has become more in the public eye and almost acceptable in that time. AW has brought a lot more girls into the work and many do not know of other web sites. There will be many who are very part time. If you are on benefits or have a low paid job, an extra £100 a week makes a lot of difference.

Also I think there are fewer girls asking for top end prices - say more that £150 an hour. At the same time 30 minute bookings and even 15 minutes are being offered by some girls, almost unheard of 15 years ago.

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Yes a bunch of extreme bitter lefties spouting their shit and me paying for it when I had a tv and I didn't even watch it it's like i live at guantanamo bay or something you will conform you will conform you will conform no I wont......wondering hat the jail timeios for not paying guessing it's worth it

Would you care to elaborate? xx

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Yes a bunch of extreme bitter lefties spouting their shit and me paying for it when I had a tv and I didn't even watch it it's like i live at guantanamo bay or something you will conform you will conform you will conform no I wont......wondering hat the jail timeios for not paying guessing it's worth it

 

If you feel that way, then you can read the story in a right wing newspaper:

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-sex-workers-taking-more-risks-as-foreign-rivals-slash-prices-8568119.html

 

Whether the facts are correct or not, I have no idea, but the Westminster Council is hardly a nest of rabid lefties.

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I think Heather was saying the BBC is...

 

I know that, but she was confusing the message with the messenger.

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BBC are a joke so i cant articulate it better then you have x

Yes a bunch of extreme bitter lefties spouting their shit and me paying for it when I had a tv and I didn't even watch it it's like i live at guantanamo bay or something you will conform you will conform you will conform no I wont......wondering hat the jail timeios for not paying guessing it's worth it

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BBC are a joke so i cant articulate it better then you have x

 

BBC are the only objective news media in the country. Try relying on Mail/Express/The Scum or Sky or ITV for unbiased news reporting. You'd soon have a jaundiced view of the world, if you haven't one already

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If it says so on Punternet then its true.......the daily views that do matter.

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