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Why The Need For Bait And Switch

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There have been a spate of girls in my area working from the same hotel, the photos on their AW pages are always of attractive ladies and 50% of the time it is the girl in the photo actually in the room but the rest of the time especially when the photo is taken of the back or side not showing the face it is not.

 

But, they always try to get it close i.e brunette girl in photo, brunette in the room etc.

 

But why, I saw a very attractive girl yesterday, but it clearly wasnt the girl in the photo (obvious give aways - girl in photo had tramp stamp, girl in room did not; girl in photo has larger breasts (I would say girl in room had nicer breasts though.)

 

But why not just take some photos of the actual girl, they seem to work there for a week or two then move around so its not like they dont have the time or the girls are not attractive (they have all been stunners)

 

They are alway forgein girls if this is relevant.

 

Would the girls work in pairs ie two brunettes work together so only need one advert?

 

Just seems odd to me.

 

 

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I like the definition of "close". (Call me a demanding customer, but I prefer WG in photo to be one I see.... rather than one where there's a "good chance" they are the same hair colour.) 

 

 

Realistically in large majority of cases "bait" photos are of women that are more conventionally good looking than the WGs actually in situ. The photos are designed to get more guys to turn up. Once there enough guys go through with it to make the deception worthwhile.

 

But if you're actually telling us you've actually found an agency/ set-up where the actual WG's are consistently better looking than the bait photos.... then usual explanation for Agency behaviour applies. (NB The "usual explanation" for all strange Agency behaviour is that many of them are unwilling to make any real effort at all.)

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But if you're actually telling us you've actually found an agency/ set-up where the actual WG's are consistently better looking than the bait photos.... then usual explanation for Agency behaviour applies. (NB The "usual explanation" for all strange Agency behaviour is that many of them are unwilling to make any real effort at all.)

 

It would be difficult to argue they are better looking than the bait photos but the girls have all been attractive enough not to need them.  I imagine you are right and they just cant be bothered.

 

After all, faced with a semi naked attractive girl I am for one not going to argue that she is not the girl in the photo.

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If you accept any girl who is not the one you intended to see ( even if better ) then you encourage the switchers.

The practice is to catch guys who lack self control and think with their dicks . Learn to walk away , it's better for all of us if you do .

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If you accept any girl who is not the one you intended to see ( even if better ) then you encourage the switchers.

The practice is to catch guys who lack self control and think with their dicks . Learn to walk away , it's better for all of us if you do .

Spot on, personally i have been very disappointed with the views of some forum punters on this issue. Even when they knew the pimp in charge regularly bait and switched WGs they still punted through them in the hope the switch would be good. I did a thread elsewhere and even some very experienced punters punted with bait and switchers and had no problem with it. I would walk on principle.

 

If there isnt a pimp it can be two or three WGs wanting to be inter-changeable with each other to maximise punters through the door. So if one is busy when a punter calls another can pretend to be the WG he thinks she is. The usual scenario for bait and switch has been the switch is pug ugly in my experience, so it is a case of them getting the punter to the punt and relying on him punting anyway thinking with his cock.

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While I get principle of walking on bait & switch, lets get real,

- many of us will punt with a girl who is*better* than the pix!

I once saw a S.American wg who fell into this category- she was in grad school back home (not a shaggy dog story, I work in a related field which we discussed in some depth.) She just didn't want any online trail to her escorting etc.

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There's several scenarios here.The first is,like youve said,several ladies working from an establishment with one profile.The next is,especially if you've seen the lady before and since is,she just got busy.Maybe the previous guy extended,or they may even have double booked and you got there second.Then they'll offer an alternative to keep you there.Some just have a big turnover and they cant be arsed to keep changing it.
Thats before you get to the more traditional stolen pic bait and switch which is purely to get you through the door hoping that once there you won't be arsed to leave and go elsewhere.

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I wonder if it's worth taking WGs pics from .. or their own sites and doing a Google Image Search lookup on them.  (You can paste in the Web address of an image, or save it to your PC and upload it, and Google will look for online images that match it.)  I've used this technique in another area of my life with some revealing results.

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I suspect it's a combination of laziness from agencies and also more sinister pimp types who have a group of women they ship in and out of a location. Rather than create a new AW profile for each woman they have a handful they use and when the client shows up he gets whoever is free.  

 

Regarding the debate on whether one should walk if a bait and switch has occurred even if the women is perceived as better looking- I think that only applies to a certain type of client, one solely punting to shag a pretty woman. 

 

A decent man will have checked out a woman's profile of website and decided to see her based on the fact she appears non trafficked, happy in her work, does the services you require and sometimes even with a personality that appeals. 

 

Letting yourself get lured in by someone you know nothing about is a huge disregard to those poor women who are treated like products. 

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I whole heartedly agree this is a horrible practice and that we should start walking away when the girl is not the one in the pic as some small level of quality control for true in advertising.  I've started reverse image searching and found that there is a large percentage of pics taken from outside sources. This is especially true with Asian agencies where nearly all pics of girls I can see for £150 amazingly enough are Japanese adult stars or models.  What a great deal!  

 

For some reason, I will raise a fuss and demand my money back when i discover that the fast food shoppe has over charged me 0.40, but I am reluctant to say anything when spending 400 times that amount and a different girl opens the door.  I think part of it is politeness.  Despite the fact that is a financial transaction, if you cancel you are essentially telling a girl with human emotion and feelings that you reject her.  So if she is "good enough" in the looks department you take your chances.  Until you get behind closed doors you don't know how performance will be anyway, and at this point you are already far along with the launch sequence in you're pants.  You don't want to risk that there is not enough time to find another girl that night, so you just go with it.

 

From the agency's perspective, they need to put up a pic that you will choose over all the over pics on the market.  And if 99% of punters will just accept a different but "good enough" girl, then they have their sale.  Their financial incentive is to put up the best pic and send out the "good enough" girl".

 

PS - I'm new here.  "AW" stands for Agency Website?  Or something else?

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PS - I'm new here.  "AW" stands for Agency Website?  Or something else?

 

Something else - AdultWork

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I whole heartedly agree this is a horrible practice and that we should start walking away when the girl is not the one in the pic as some small level of quality control for true in advertising.  I've started reverse image searching and found that there is a large percentage of pics taken from outside sources. This is especially true with Asian agencies where nearly all pics of girls I can see for £150 amazingly enough are Japanese adult stars or models.  What a great deal!  

 

For some reason, I will raise a fuss and demand my money back when i discover that the fast food shoppe has over charged me 0.40, but I am reluctant to say anything when spending 400 times that amount and a different girl opens the door.  I think part of it is politeness.  Despite the fact that is a financial transaction, if you cancel you are essentially telling a girl with human emotion and feelings that you reject her.  So if she is "good enough" in the looks department you take your chances.  Until you get behind closed doors you don't know how performance will be anyway, and at this point you are already far along with the launch sequence in you're pants.  You don't want to risk that there is not enough time to find another girl that night, so you just go with it.

 

From the agency's perspective, they need to put up a pic that you will choose over all the over pics on the market.  And if 99% of punters will just accept a different but "good enough" girl, then they have their sale.  Their financial incentive is to put up the best pic and send out the "good enough" girl".

 

PS - I'm new here.  "AW" stands for Agency Website?  Or something else?

 

Personally I have no problem walking.

 

For those that do, I'd argue best approach is to reduce possibility of bait and switch by doing a few common sense things beforehand. Here are some tips:-

 

1/ If you insist on using an agency take some trouble beforehand to find the reliable ones in your area... the ones that don't use fake photos, etc. (NB If you operate on basis that 90% of agencies are crap, you won't be far wrong.... although I suspect Smiths, given his greater experience, might suggest idea that as many as 10% are okay is wildly optimistic.)

 

2/ If photos look too good to be true, check them out on tin eye or google image search. (NB If photos match well know foreign films stars or porn stars, please think "fake", rather than "I'm lucky to be going to see her".)

 

3/  Until you can spot most of the con adverts "in your sleep" consider making most of your bookings with Indies with a good solid rep.

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Personally I have no problem walking.

 

For those that do, I'd argue best approach is to reduce possibility of bait and switch by doing a few common sense things beforehand. Here are some tips:-

 

1/ If you insist on using an agency take some trouble beforehand to find the reliable ones in your area... the ones that don't use fake photos, etc. (NB If you operate on basis that 90% of agencies are crap, you won't be far wrong.... although I suspect Smiths, given his greater experience, might suggest idea that as many as 10% are okay is wildly optimistic.)

 

2/ If photos look too good to be true, check them out on tin eye or google image search. (NB If photos match well know foreign films stars or porn stars, please think "fake", rather than "I'm lucky to be going to see her".)

 

3/  Until you can spot most of the con adverts "in your sleep" consider making most of your bookings with Indies with a good solid rep.

I would rather have a wank than punt through an Agency nowadays, in my opinion a totally unnecessary third party that just puts the price i would have to pay up. In London they are just greedy arseholes who charge outrageous to me prices that arent VFM in my view.

 

If a punter is set on punting through an Agency my advice is use this site to research them very carefully. Good tips here though.

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I whole heartedly agree this is a horrible practice and that we should start walking away when the girl is not the one in the pic as some small level of quality control for true in advertising.  I've started reverse image searching and found that there is a large percentage of pics taken from outside sources. This is especially true with Asian agencies where nearly all pics of girls I can see for £150 amazingly enough are Japanese adult stars or models.  What a great deal!  

 

For some reason, I will raise a fuss and demand my money back when i discover that the fast food shoppe has over charged me 0.40, but I am reluctant to say anything when spending 400 times that amount and a different girl opens the door.  I think part of it is politeness.  Despite the fact that is a financial transaction, if you cancel you are essentially telling a girl with human emotion and feelings that you reject her.  So if she is "good enough" in the looks department you take your chances.  Until you get behind closed doors you don't know how performance will be anyway, and at this point you are already far along with the launch sequence in you're pants.  You don't want to risk that there is not enough time to find another girl that night, so you just go with it.

 

From the agency's perspective, they need to put up a pic that you will choose over all the over pics on the market.  And if 99% of punters will just accept a different but "good enough" girl, then they have their sale.  Their financial incentive is to put up the best pic and send out the "good enough" girl".

 

PS - I'm new here.  "AW" stands for Agency Website?  Or something else?

Its all very simple to me, i require the WG whose pictures attracted to me to be the WG who i meet, if its not her or even if it is but not a good likeness i will walk nowadays and go to my plan B. I have no problem doing this, its her or in some cases her Establishment that should be ashamed of themselves for lying. What she feels is of her own making, not mine.

 

Obviously its pure fantasy to imagine all or even many punters will walk in these circumstances, nothing posted on here will change this practice, doesnt mean punters who feel very strongly about it like myself cant give our views though of course. What an Establishment could do is use honesty as their USP, i advised Mr Divine of HOD to do that when he posted he lied about WGs ages and sizes. It could pay off to be absolutely honest and advertise so.

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3/  Until you can spot most of the con adverts "in your sleep" consider making most of your bookings with Indies with a good solid rep.

 

Thanks for the suggestion.  Curious about Indies vs Agency girls.  Hope to hear more, but is really a request for information so I posted under "..Requests for Info - London" 

http://www.punternet.com/forum/index.php/topic/30266-agency-verses-independent/

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