Imperial

Have I Just Been Naïve? Or Plain Stupid?

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I was seeing a lovely girl for a 'sensual massage' once a month: massage, toys, owo, reverse oral, rubbing my cock against her pussy... but always hand-relief to finish. We got on pretty well... we were ALWAYS texting each other, and it wasn't long before I knew her real name and a lot about her family  - boyfriend, child... and then we became facebook friends.

 

She told me that she'd crossed a few lines with me - the texting, the fb friends... and separately she'd  said that her and the bf might have been a mistake, but she wanted to stick it out for their kid.

 

Then I made an extended booking for my birthday... and things changed.

We both knew that this was to be a "full service", but somehow the pussy/cock rubbing turned into sex without stopping for a condom. From what I know about this girl, this is NOT be a service she offers. But it all seemed comfortable and lovely at the time.

 

ANYWAY... I tried to rebook to see her ASAP, and she asked for £50 up front. I questioned this, and she went ballistic, saying that she couldn't believe I didn't trust her.. Eventually she calmed down, but asked for full payment up front, £140. Because I thought we were ok, I transferred the money to her account, for an appointment two days later.  That appointment was cancelled at the last minute because her kid had had an accident at nursery... I suggested alternative meeting-times, and AGAIN she went ballistic, saying "I can't think of you, I thinking of my kid".

 

This was two months ago. 

Initially, she came across as livid that I could be so selfish as to think about myself before her kid... but since then, whenever I've asked (and I've been bombarding her with texts and emails!!!)  what went wrong, she has only said that she can't give answers, and that she needs time. She has variously said that she has stopped working as an escort, and that she now does massage only, no longer offering 'full service'. I know that these are lies - I think that REALLY she just wants to avoid ME.

 

She says that we are NOT friends, I should use her escort name when addressing her, not her real name, that we have no future, and that there's no going back. I was defriended on fb, (not really the biggest problem!), and told not to contact her via her private email or PM on facebook.

 

And though she has said that she is willing to meet for a two-girl massage, with absolutely no talking about things, she's showing no signs of giving me an appointment.

 

Am I deluded? I think that maybe if we chatted, perhaps we might get over this terrible "standoff"... but having a third person in the room will hinder conversation.

Incidentally, this other masseuse knows what's happened: I told her the story, and again, my girl went ballistic over THAT, TOO!)

 

At one time, I said she could keep the money, as I thought it was an extra tension between us that didn't help... but if I'm now to get NOTHING from her, I'd like it back. Fat chance,  eh?

 

So why do I still feel "in love"?

And how stupid have I been?  I can't believe this is some cynical cow who set out to rip me off - that just wouldn't be her style... so where did I go wrong?

 

 

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I am not in a position to advise others.

 

But I would worry about over-familiarity between punter and SP full stop.

 

i have had some and regretted none of them but in theory I shouldn't start to think of an SP as special in a non-work way because there is no earthly reason why i should be her choice so presumably there is an ulterior motive however innocent or not.

 

A few things will alert punters' worry beads - the bb for a start (and points 2,3,5,7 and 78 too.

 

Telling the other SP really should have been an obvious thing not to do - giving away any info on an SP to her work colleague is just not done.

 

you don't want me to say this but the only advice must be 'move on'.

 

Ha, coincidental simultaneous posting with above - and same conclusion

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You have been done...move on.

 

d'accord

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Hope you've been to the clinic! 

Move on, you've been naive at best, a fool at worst. 

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Imperial

 

Unless there is something you have not told us.... why would she suddenly want a deposit or payment up front?  

 

Anyway if your story is a genuine one then yes I agree with others... you have been stitched up like the proverbial.

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79,999 other WGs in the UK, and most of them will be less hassle in your life than this one.

 

Please tell us you're only FB friends under your punting name.

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 Where did you go wrong  ?   When you paid her  140  upfront . That's where you went wrong . [ and you bombarded her with texts an emails ] and you know she has a bf .  Take a hint  .

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Is she an official service provider, one who advertises and sees other clients, or is this an informal 'arrangement' between two people?

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i think some of the replies here have been a bit one dimensional. It would appear like you've been done over, except she gave you alot of personal information that i have never gleaned of escorts who have given me free appointments over the years. This is the crucial point others are ignoring, she did show alot of trust in you so obviously did like you, she is hardly going to plan a major scam and give all her personal information to you, if you were a nutcase, you could easily find out where she lives and get your money back or cause her alot more grief than she has caused you.

 

I think what is more likely is that she did like you, then hated herself for getting close to you, and took it out on you and wanted some form of revenge so ripping you off seemed like a good idea. So, yes she did con you, but i think for the reasons i have explaained rather than being a career scammer if that makes sense.

 

Some will say a con is a con end of, but you could easily get your money back if you wanted, but my advice would be just move on, £140 not end of the world

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i think some of the replies here have been a bit one dimensional. It would appear like you've been done over, except she gave you alot of personal information that i have never gleaned of escorts who have given me free appointments over the years. This is the crucial point others are ignoring, she did show alot of trust in you so obviously did like you, she is hardly going to plan a major scam and give all her personal information to you, if you were a nutcase, you could easily find out where she lives and get your money back or cause her alot more grief than she has caused you.

I think what is more likely is that she did like you, then hated herself for getting close to you, and took it out on you and wanted some form of revenge so ripping you off seemed like a good idea. So, yes she did con you, but i think for the reasons i have explaained rather than being a career scammer if that makes sense.

Some will say a con is a con end of, but you could easily get your money back if you wanted, but my advice would be just move on, £140 not end of the world

My thoughts exactly

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Thinking an escort is a friend is a big mistake. It can only end in disappointment.

 

Did you get an appointment for your £140 or did you get a refund?

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i think some of the replies here have been a bit one dimensional. It would appear like you've been done over, except she gave you alot of personal information that i have never gleaned of escorts who have given me free appointments over the years. This is the crucial point others are ignoring, she did show alot of trust in you so obviously did like you, she is hardly going to plan a major scam and give all her personal information to you, if you were a nutcase, you could easily find out where she lives and get your money back or cause her alot more grief than she has caused you.

 

I think what is more likely is that she did like you, then hated herself for getting close to you, and took it out on you and wanted some form of revenge so ripping you off seemed like a good idea. So, yes she did con you, but i think for the reasons i have explaained rather than being a career scammer if that makes sense.

 

Some will say a con is a con end of, but you could easily get your money back if you wanted, but my advice would be just move on, £140 not end of the world

 

   I would be interested how he " could easily get  your money back if you wanted  "    would be possible  ?   she hasn't spent it  yet  ? 

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   I would be interested how he " could easily get  your money back if you wanted  "    would be possible  ?   she hasn't spent it  yet  ? 

 

I suspect Imperial would be interested in that as well! 

 

Suspect reality is that there's no remotely practical way of getting the 140 quid back if she's decided to keep it. 

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Always pay by credit card, then they are responsible for a refund in case of non-delivery!

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Firstly,the rubbing your cock against her pussy if i remember correctly is a health risk in itself.then going BB.Not a good situation that may warrent checking.
Moralistic health bit over.You have my sympathies.Whether she saw you as a soft touch and this was planned or whether the full service aspect just took things to far for her to deal with i can't say not being privvy to full occurences in your time together.The fact that she was willing to take another booking but wanted cash up front does tend to lead to the former,especially when you add she calmed down then asked for more.why move the goalposts.
The bit about you KNOW she hasnt stopped escorting in favour of plain massage.May i ask how you are so certain.she may well have done.
That said,you say she has said she is prepared to meet for a two girl massage.Well in that case obviously what you already have paid should come off of that,You may have found that the other girls fee would have been asked for in advance and thats why she went so mad when you actually talked to her.
Of course,i'm only saying this from reading your post.She does seem to have let you into a lot of her life,and i'm reckoning that id she really wanted to rob you blind she could have taken a whole lot more,so maybe it did just become too much and boundries were breached.
whats my overall hypothesis?I don't entirely know.What i do know.You wont see your money again.either way,she isnt going to just hand it back.as for what did you do wrong.You went into what is basically a business situation and took it personally.That said,it seems to have hit you hard so you have my sympathies

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I suspect Imperial would be interested in that as well! 

 

Suspect reality is that there's no remotely practical way of getting the 140 quid back if she's decided to keep it. 

 

  kissinglover  is thinking he can find out where she lives and just go round and knock on her door . He's forgetting one important thing . Her boyfriend is a boxer or a bouncer at the local night club  !   He has tattoo's all the way up his arms and when he breaks into a sweat you need an umbrella .

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Rubbing your cock unprotected against any SP's pussy, not matter how clean you think they are is STUPID!

 

Thinking that they care about you more than other punter is STUPID!

 

Listening to her bullshit and falling for it while she empties your wallet is STUPID!

 

Sorry baby I won't sugar coat...  YOU ARE STUPID!!!!!

 

I once met a lovely man that was crazy about a certain girl. Like you he was hanging on her every word, joining her circle of friends and so on.  Three times he forwarded her money for very long bookings, only to have a myriad of seemingly plausible excuses from her for not turning up.  I liked this guy and overheard this girl laughing about him, saying he was an easy touch and a hell of a lot worse behind his back.  So I told him! 

 

This was a while back, but he really feels stupid about the whole affair now.  If you want to PM me I'm sure he will tell you his story, we are still close friends.

 

Remember....  A fool and their money are easily parted...  Start thinking with your big brain and tell that little one to shut up...

 

Hugs H xx

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I was seeing a lovely girl for a 'sensual massage' once a month: massage, toys, owo, reverse oral, rubbing my cock against her pussy... but always hand-relief to finish. We got on pretty well... we were ALWAYS texting each other, and it wasn't long before I knew her real name and a lot about her family  - boyfriend, child... and then we became facebook friends.

 

She told me that she'd crossed a few lines with me - the texting, the fb friends... and separately she'd  said that her and the bf might have been a mistake, but she wanted to stick it out for their kid.

 

Then I made an extended booking for my birthday... and things changed.

We both knew that this was to be a "full service", but somehow the pussy/cock rubbing turned into sex without stopping for a condom. From what I know about this girl, this is NOT be a service she offers. But it all seemed comfortable and lovely at the time.

 

ANYWAY... I tried to rebook to see her ASAP, and she asked for £50 up front. I questioned this, and she went ballistic, saying that she couldn't believe I didn't trust her.. Eventually she calmed down, but asked for full payment up front, £140. Because I thought we were ok, I transferred the money to her account, for an appointment two days later.  That appointment was cancelled at the last minute because her kid had had an accident at nursery... I suggested alternative meeting-times, and AGAIN she went ballistic, saying "I can't think of you, I thinking of my kid".

 

This was two months ago. 

Initially, she came across as livid that I could be so selfish as to think about myself before her kid... but since then, whenever I've asked (and I've been bombarding her with texts and emails!!!)  what went wrong, she has only said that she can't give answers, and that she needs time. She has variously said that she has stopped working as an escort, and that she now does massage only, no longer offering 'full service'. I know that these are lies - I think that REALLY she just wants to avoid ME.

 

She says that we are NOT friends, I should use her escort name when addressing her, not her real name, that we have no future, and that there's no going back. I was defriended on fb, (not really the biggest problem!), and told not to contact her via her private email or PM on facebook.

 

And though she has said that she is willing to meet for a two-girl massage, with absolutely no talking about things, she's showing no signs of giving me an appointment.

 

Am I deluded? I think that maybe if we chatted, perhaps we might get over this terrible "standoff"... but having a third person in the room will hinder conversation.

Incidentally, this other masseuse knows what's happened: I told her the story, and again, my girl went ballistic over THAT, TOO!)

 

At one time, I said she could keep the money, as I thought it was an extra tension between us that didn't help... but if I'm now to get NOTHING from her, I'd like it back. Fat chance,  eh?

 

So why do I still feel "in love"?

And how stupid have I been?  I can't believe this is some cynical cow who set out to rip me off - that just wouldn't be her style... so where did I go wrong?

Sadly a familiar story. My advice is to move on. Yes i would say your deluded, stick to viewing punting as what it is, paid sex and business for WGs. If they really do like you, great, but some are good actresses, and can be very convincing.

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I disagree that becoming friends on a personal level with an escort is always a mistake. For me, I wouldnt really enjoy myself unless some aspect of personal interaction occurs, and yes, it's probably infrequently found.

In this case, sounds like either it was a scam, or she changed her mind. Either way, you have one play:exit stage left. The lost prepay is your tuition on what not to do.

Take heart, many on this board have been there in one way or another!

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Rubbing your cock unprotected against any SP's pussy, not matter how clean you think they are is STUPID!

 

Thinking that they care about you more than other punter is STUPID!

 

Listening to her bullshit and falling for it while she empties your wallet is STUPID!

 

Sorry baby I won't sugar coat...  YOU ARE STUPID!!!!!

 

I once met a lovely man that was crazy about a certain girl. Like you he was hanging on her every word, joining her circle of friends and so on.  Three times he forwarded her money for very long bookings, only to have a myriad of seemingly plausible excuses from her for not turning up.  I liked this guy and overheard this girl laughing about him, saying he was an easy touch and a hell of a lot worse behind his back.  So I told him! 

 

This was a while back, but he really feels stupid about the whole affair now.  If you want to PM me I'm sure he will tell you his story, we are still close friends.

 

Remember....  A fool and their money are easily parted...  Start thinking with your big brain and tell that little one to shut up...

 

Hugs H xx

Holly - I was about to weigh in with my tuppenorth..you have said it all for me

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Take heart, many on this board have been there in one way or another!

 

Amen to that (sadly).

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Okay lets look at this in a differant light.

 

Imperial, paid the escort £140 for the next booking, and he didnt get this, it was raised that she might have tricked him into parting with the money.

 

Yet what about the extra that Imperial got, he talks about the extra thrill he got with all the texts, and the warm feeling he picked up on about the way she told him facts about her life, and the facebook friendship.

 

He was friendly with this escort for more than a few months, so I pressume he got much more out of it than an ordinary punt, and he felt that she was more a friend that an escort, even with her telling him she had crossed the line a few times.

 

I dont know what price should be put on that, but if the punter thought it was good enough for him to pay the £140 in advance, it must have crossed his mind that she would not see him after all she was becoming more and more irrational in her conversations with him.

 

He ends up, why did I still feel "in love"....you got more than the booking you paid for, the in love is extra, and at the cost of a broken heart..not the £140.

 

Thats why its best if the transaction is for cash only, and you can walk away knowing your booking has ended when the time ran out.

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Actually, it would help if she has an idiot as a boyfriend. Clearly personally knocking on her door wont get him very far, but a fabricated tip off to the police re: let's say drugs, exploitation, or anything that would pique the law's interest will result in a visit from probably plain clothed police, if our friend were to say half an hour earlier tell her his friends are turning up, then boxer boyfriend kicks off.........job done!!

 

Or he could politely remind her the inland revenue may be ken on her business activities, the point being with so much information there are a myriad of ways he can make her life hell, if he were the vindicitve type.

 

However, he lost £140, we have all lost that sort of money on crap punts, he should roll with it and move on

  kissinglover  is thinking he can find out where she lives and just go round and knock on her door . He's forgetting one important thing . Her boyfriend is a boxer or a bouncer at the local night club  !   He has tattoo's all the way up his arms and when he breaks into a sweat you need an umbrella .

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