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Is it wrong to pay for sex? We're making a BBC Three film about attitudes to buying sex - is it overblown by the media, or is it exploitation? Some people want to see paying for sex made illegal. What do you think?

 

We're looking for a handful of young men (aged 18-30) who don't mind talking on television about paying for sex.

 

Can you help?

Contact Emma - bbc.research@bbc.co.uk

 

 

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With respect:

I suspect that men of any age will be cautious (to say the least) about being on the telly to tell of their paying for sex.

So/and for heaven's sake, why only the 18-30 age group?

 

I'll give you a short answer to your question above. It is, perhaps, morally wrong to pay for sex but it happens, and no matter what any authority does about it, it will continue to happen. Yes, the media overblows the matter. (Exception being when women are coerced when all right thinking people including punters align to condemn it). (BTW current legislation positively discourages punters from alerting the authorities when a punter suspects coercion).

It can be made as illegal as you want but it will still go on and will simply make the provider's lives more risky, I believe, by driving things even more underground.

 

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I'm guessing that most people who pray for sex are over 30, although I have no evidence... but I agree that by limiting participants to a specific age group, the producers are sacrificing accuracy for entertainment value. Presumably there will be a brief to look for either good-looking guys, or perhaps victims of the ugly stick who can't get a date any other way.

Also, framing the question as "is it wrong" makes it a moral issue. Exactly how that then becomes a legal issue isn't made clear, unless you think that the government should legislate morality (see Anne Widdecombe).

I hope the BBC decides to interview lots and lots of the happy independent WGs who will tell them the truth: that the only people being exploited in most cases of paid-for sex are the poor punters whose financial integrity is being abused by a combination of their cocks and smart marketing by SPs. ;-)

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''Pray for sex''? is that a Freudian slip!

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Why dont you just spend a few weeks reading all the threads on this forum, throw away the arguments and the neanderthal comments and you will be left with the nuggest of sensible debate covering every aspect of the industry posted by a large crossover of people, male and female, from all over the country of all ages, dont for once concentrate on the negatives and actually read what we post then you will have all you need for a balanced view. Of course it would mean making a programme that admits that there are respectable punters who are not abusive perverts and escorts who are actually doing this job because they want to and are happy within the industry. Could the BBC handle that, would you even dare to air it?

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Dear Emma,

 

If you want your car serviced properly, you take it to someone who has experience in that field, hopefully is recommended for your maker of car,  and who can do the job properly for a reasonable cost.

 

If you want your house repaired properly, you find a recommended builder who has carried out repairs for a friend etc, and you get him to carry out the repair properly for a reasonable charge.

 

If you want a good meal, you look up recommended restaurants, you look at their menu and their prices, and select accordingly, with the meal cooked by a professional expert. 

 

If you want a really good sexual experience, you look on sites like this, find a provider who is good at providing the service you require (and there is a huge variety), and hope that the recommendation is genuine, and you pay a professional to provide the service you require.  

 

You pay your money and get the service you require. Simples. 

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Will this research be unbiased or will it be agenda-driven? And why only 18-30?

 

Some people want to see paying for sex made illegal. What do you think?

 

I think criminalising paying for sexual services among consenting adults will put sex workers in further danger and make both clients and workers less likely to report crimes or suspected trafficking to the police. I do not think it will reduce trafficking/rape/assault/child victims as all these are already illegal.

 

Some people may consider commercial sex immoral, but safety is more important than morals.

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damn it too old could of been my big break

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Couldnt agree more spot on Zzzorro. The reason that there's a charge is because there's a product that i want and im willing to pay what i think is a reasonable rate for that service if it's to expensive I'll move on or negotiate for what i need at thet moment.

 

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Dear Emma,

 

If you want your car serviced properly, you take it to someone who has experience in that field, hopefully is recommended for your maker of car,  and who can do the job properly for a reasonable cost.

 

If you want your house repaired properly, you find a recommended builder who has carried out repairs for a friend etc, and you get him to carry out the repair properly for a reasonable charge.

 

If you want a good meal, you look up recommended restaurants, you look at their menu and their prices, and select accordingly, with the meal cooked by a professional expert. 

 

If you want a really good sexual experience, you look on sites like this, find a provider who is good at providing the service you require (and there is a huge variety), and hope that the recommendation is genuine, and you pay a professional to provide the service you require.  

 

You pay your money and get the service you require. Simples. 

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Is it wrong to pay for sex? We're making a BBC Three film about attitudes to buying sex - is it overblown by the media, or is it exploitation? Some people want to see paying for sex made illegal. What do you think?

 

We're looking for a handful of young men (aged 18-30) who don't mind talking on television about paying for sex.

 

Can you help?

Contact Emma - bbc.research@bbc.co.uk

 

 

Thanks

 

 

It is good the BBC is looking at this but the problem will always be the reluctance of individuals to stand up against the stigma.

 

Just consider a moment what it was like for the first gay men and women to stand up to the discrimination they faced 30 years ago.

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Is it wrong to pay for sex? 

 

No.

 

It is immoral for others to dictate the actions of consenting adults.

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Why dont you just spend a few weeks reading all the threads on this forum, throw away the arguments and the neanderthal comments and you will be left with the nuggest of sensible debate covering every aspect of the industry posted by a large crossover of people, male and female, from all over the country of all ages, dont for once concentrate on the negatives and actually read what we post then you will have all you need for a balanced view. Of course it would mean making a programme that admits that there are respectable punters who are not abusive perverts and escorts who are actually doing this job because they want to and are happy within the industry. Could the BBC handle that, would you even dare to air it?

 

I wonder if we will every get a researcher, documentary producer, journalist bold enough to paint the honest truth, rather than regurgitation the same old tripe.  That would be revolutionary.

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Maybe the OP should try it out for herself!

 

Nothing like experience to provide insight

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No.

 

It is immoral for others to dictate the actions of consenting adults.

 

Exactly. No one has the right to decide what we do with our own bodies. It has gone on since times now forgotten and shall continue to do so regardless of legislation or more ridiculous rules heaped upon us. It seems to me that ordinary joe and joanna blogs couldnt really give a toss what happens between consenting adults, its only the anti's who have nothing better to do than busy body into others lives who are against it, the same people were probably anti hunting before this and anti something else before that. I would love to see the proof that these anti's are in any way qualified as to declare who should and shouldnt have sex with one another and on what grounds. Till you have walked a mile in my shoes...and so on, and so on

I wonder if we will every get a researcher, documentary producer, journalist bold enough to paint the honest truth, rather than regurgitation the same old tripe.  That would be revolutionary.

It would be revolutionary. Bless em I remember when the womens institute did a programme on the sex industry, they went off to amsterdam, had a little look around one of the windows and declared it rather safe and clean and nice. They then came back to the UK and on some ridiculously bias advise visted what must be the worst brothel in england as it was partly shipping containter, I kid you not. You walked through the front door and the french windows opened up and you walked straight into a shipping container being used as a bedroom.

 

They declared it awful and said that we should have nice clean warm safe places to work in the UK too and then everything would be alright. I just sat there flabbergasted as I had been in the lovely, clean, safe and warm parlour in MK on that very day, if only they knew I remember thinking...the truth is out there but can anyone really be bothered to look when its not as exiting if its not grimey and drug addled and no one can look at us with pity to make them feel better about their own lives.

 

We are just normal and high chance we live a lot happier and better lives than the naysayers thats for sure. What I find hilarious is that half the antis out there are probably related to a punter or an escort but they just dont even know it.

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BBC would you mind returning and making comment on what has been said so far or is this yet another thread started by someone who has no intention of interacting with us and instead prefers to post, sit back and then watch as if this is an ant farm x

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you walked straight into a shipping container being used as a bedroom.

I spent a few nights in an iso container on top of a mountain once, it was quite comfortable, and very dark when the lights were off.

 

But I know where you are coming from lol

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With respect:

I suspect that men of any age will be cautious (to say the least) about being on the telly to tell of their paying for sex.

So/and for heaven's sake, why only the 18-30 age group?

 

I'll give you a short answer to your question above. It is, perhaps, morally wrong to pay for sex but it happens, and no matter what any authority does about it, it will continue to happen. Yes, the media overblows the matter. (Exception being when women are coerced when all right thinking people including punters align to condemn it). (BTW current legislation positively discourages punters from alerting the authorities when a punter suspects coercion).

It can be made as illegal as you want but it will still go on and will simply make the provider's lives more risky, I believe, by driving things even more underground.

 

Uncle Pokey

Great answer.I agree with you on the difficulty of getting anyone to appear on it.Imagine being 19-20,being on that then going down your local.The amount of shit youd take.If they go the root of a financial inducement then the programme wont be worth a lick of spit as theyd just be getting broke idiots applying

 

I'm guessing that most people who pray for sex are over 30, although I have no evidence... but I agree that by limiting participants to a specific age group, the producers are sacrificing accuracy for entertainment value. Presumably there will be a brief to look for either good-looking guys, or perhaps victims of the ugly stick who can't get a date any other way.

I hope the BBC decides to interview lots and lots of the happy independent WGs who will tell them the truth: that the only people being exploited in most cases of paid-for sex are the poor punters whose financial integrity is being abused by a combination of their cocks and smart marketing by SPs. ;-)

Youve pretty much hit the nail on the head there.On one hand youve got a middle aged fella talking about his sexless marriage,then about the lady he see's,the time they spend together,how much he values the service etc.Then on the other,some kid talking about how he loves getting off his tits then going down his local knocking shop and to coin a phrase,smashing the doors off some bird.Which sounds like itd make the most entertaining/sensationalist viewing.

Have a feeling,those like myself,aesthetically challenged :) would be ignored also as some would have sympathy with the plight.Also think the ladies will be largely ignored

 

''Pray for sex''? is that a Freudian slip!

Don't know.It is however the story of my life :)

 

Why dont you just spend a few weeks reading all the threads on this forum, throw away the arguments and the neanderthal comments and you will be left with the nuggest of sensible debate covering every aspect of the industry posted by a large crossover of people, male and female, from all over the country of all ages, dont for once concentrate on the negatives and actually read what we post then you will have all you need for a balanced view. Of course it would mean making a programme that admits that there are respectable punters who are not abusive perverts and escorts who are actually doing this job because they want to and are happy within the industry. Could the BBC handle that, would you even dare to air it?

I have a sneaking suspicion that if removed those that posted the neanderthal comments,the trolls etc the people making the sensible,balanced posts would be largely outside the age group they are after.By asking for that specific age group 18-30 You can see exactly what type of programme its going to be.Why else expressly go for what i call the braggart age.Youre looking at a lot of bravado and bullshit and an end conclussion that this is a terrible trade for anyone to work in and all punters are horrible arseholes.The whole thing smacks of shock viewing

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I have a sneaking suspicion that if removed those that posted the neanderthal comments,the trolls etc the people making the sensible,balanced posts would be largely outside the age group they are after.By asking for that specific age group 18-30 You can see exactly what type of programme its going to be.Why else expressly go for what i call the braggart age.Youre looking at a lot of bravado and bullshit and an end conclussion that this is a terrible trade for anyone to work in and all punters are horrible arseholes.The whole thing smacks of shock viewing

Exactly. Another problem, no matter how nice those guys are about the industry, the girls etc they will be edited to hell as everyone sitting there saying that they have met some really nice girls and that they have learnt how to lick a fanny properly and how they have gained confidence with the opposite sex is going to seem rather boring to people wanting to air a tv show. Fact is the only fair show about this industry would have to be made by someone who has been in it a long long time so knows or has seen every aspect of it ie either a punter or an escort. It would be nice to sit down and watch a properly rounded show about the industry but I cant see it happenening. The womens institute attempted it but were just badly advised regarding the uk brothel scene. They even set up a fake "window" in a high street in a british town and asked men, women and couples passing by who were looking at their window sign what their feelings would be if one opened up. Almost all the people said that they wouldnt mind so long as it was discreet and didnt have half naked girls in the window, other than that their opinions were pretty much "doesnt bother me, live and let live". 

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I think the reason Auntie wants 18-30 is because that is the age segment that BBC3 targets. 

 

Of course they could get a truer picture looking at posts here but it wouldn't make good telly. Needs talking heads too.

 

The heads probably won't talk unless they know they are going to be blurred. The OP has not indicated whether this will be the case.

 

Finally, most people these days are understandably pretty cynical about editorial licence in all areas of media including TV. They know that what they say may be cut in such a way so as to mean something entirely different, and there will be nothing they can do about it. No way will the programme's researchers admit the real angle being intended for the show.  

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BBC would you mind returning and making comment on what has been said so far or is this yet another thread started by someone who has no intention of interacting with us and instead prefers to post, sit back and then watch as if this is an ant farm x

 

Well said, 24 hours later and no reaction from the OP.  Surely someone must have said something worth commenting on  ?

 

 

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Well I have got my big box of popcorn, a chilled glass of Sauvignon Blanc, sitting here with my feet up waiting for Auntie to reply..................

 

Just to add a bit of spice to the discussion, I wonder how many of the BBC radio and TV employees, recently named in other circumstances, paid for sex, or whether they just relied on teenage groupies for their extra-curricula activities.  ;)

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I dont see it as wrong. Im 30 years old and would love to take part in the show - but I cant due to discretion which is the whole point of my secret life!

 

When I was in my teens I thought men that pay for sex were disgusting and desperate. I thought it was because they were too ugly to pick up women or had no confidence. But as I got older my views changed on this topic - its a way of life.

 

Men might pay for sex for some of the following reasons:

 

- have no confidence within themselves to approach normal woman so cant get laid or have never been laid without paying for it!

- may require certain sexual pleasures which they cannot get from their own girlfriends or wives.

- some rich business men may not have time for a girlfriend or wife in their life due to their work so they might seek the company of an escort for a GFE.

- some men have huge sexual appitites.

- some men might have a girlfriend or wife - they want to be pleasured by other women but dont want too cheat - so they pay for it instead as its seen as a service.

 

My reasons would be the following:

 

- Have had many girlfriends and sexual partners in my time but sometimes i get fed up with girls of my own age. I have always been attracted to older woman than me (40 years plus) and i find that they are more relaxed and pleasure me far more better. This is why I pay for sex with older women as its not everyday i can meet women 40 years plus in bars or clubs. And they probably wouldnt be interested in me as im too young for them.

 

- I love receiving oral sex. Most girls that I meet do not do this or some are no good at it - so me paying for this service pleasures me.

 

The way i see it - we are all consenting adults. What is it ok to pay someone for a massage but not seen as ok to pay for sex? Its a service!

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I dont see it as wrong. Im 30 years old and would love to take part in the show - but I cant due to discretion which is the whole point of my secret life!

 

When I was in my teens I thought men that pay for sex were disgusting and desperate. I thought it was because they were too ugly to pick up women or had no confidence. But as I got older my views changed on this topic - its a way of life.

 

Men might pay for sex for some of the following reasons:

 

1)- have no confidence within themselves to approach normal woman so cant get laid or have never been laid without paying for it!

2)- may require certain sexual pleasures which they cannot get from their own girlfriends or wives.

3)- some rich business men may not have time for a girlfriend or wife in their life due to their work so they might seek the company of an escort for a GFE.

4)- some men have huge sexual appetites.

5)- some men might have a girlfriend or wife - they want to be pleasured by other women but don't want too cheat - so they pay for it instead as its seen as a service.

 

My reasons would be the following:

 

- Have had many girlfriends and sexual partners in my time but sometimes i get fed up with girls of my own age. I have always been attracted to older woman than me (40 years plus) and i find that they are more relaxed and pleasure me far more better. This is why I pay for sex with older women as its not everyday i can meet women 40 years plus in bars or clubs. And they probably wouldnt be interested in me as im too young for them.

 

- I love receiving oral sex. Most girls that I meet do not do this or some are no good at it - so me paying for this service pleasures me.

 

The way i see it - we are all consenting adults. What is it ok to pay someone for a massage but not seen as ok to pay for sex? Its a service!

Put me down for 2), 4), and 5), please !

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Come on aunty Emma of the BBC,Where is your reply?  Im willing to comment on your program, the only problem is that im like a lot of other punters.....over 30 yrs of age, How can a body like the BBC be blantly ageist?. Ive met up with some great WGs in my punting career, Most are inteligent & proffesional in their attitudes as per the comments on this thread.

Waiting for your reply & contact Emma.

 

SP

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Put me down for 2), 4), and 5), please !

Well sounds like me and you are the same mate lol!!

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