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Link to the final policing and crime bill

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I just posted a question in another thread about the policing and crime bill. That was about the fact that I downloaded a copy of the bill, but I don't know whether I got hold of an old copy or the final act.

So, perhaps somebody with more of a clue than me can post a link to the actual, final bill in this thread, so that everybody who wants to can read it without wondering if they're looking at law or an early draft?

Thanks!

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http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2008-09/policingandcrime.html

click on the link to amendments to the bill from the final day and you'll see that clause 14 is written as "force deception threats etc.etc." Can't find a link to the entire bill as finally written but it's clear that "control for gain" is gone.

Thankyou.

It appears you have to follow the whole trail of amendments to reconstruct the final text? I see text about coercion, but I don't see the point where the "control for gain" goes away.

Party C "using any form of deception" or "any other form of coercion" is still absurdly broad and vague, even without the strict liability. Is the threat of stopping paying them a form of coercion? Is it if they have a debt? If they said they'd turn the heating up last week but plotted to leave it until this week, what legal nicety, if any, makes that not deception?

The immigrants will get the worst of it, as usual.

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this is the most recent version I've seen

pg 23

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200809/ldbills/074/2009074.pdf

I just realized that Fiona Mactaggarts ammendment is gone as well

this one

(4) For the purposes of this section "force" includes coercion by threats or

other psychological means including exploitation of vulnerability."

and has been replaced by the underlined

C engages in exploitative conduct if

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this is the most recent version I've seen

pg 23

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200809/ldbills/074/2009074.pdf

I just realized that Fiona Mactaggarts ammendment is gone as well

this one

(4) For the purposes of this section “force” includes coercion by threats or

other psychological means including exploitation of vulnerability.”

and has been replaced by the underlined

C engages in exploitative conduct if—

(a) C uses force, threats (whether or not relating to violence) or any

other form of coercion, or

(:D C practises any form of deception.

Check this site in a day or two

http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/NewLegislation.aspx

I think the "whether or not relating to violence" could mean that a Landlord threatens you with eviction, or something like that. Since you're doing so (the landlord) with the intention of getting the rent you're owed it would theoretically fit "C engaged in that conduct for or in the expectation of gain for C or another person (apart from A or :D." (as long as C was deliberately pushing towards prostitution of course)

Again it adds weight to the issues surrounding the viability and useability of the law.

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