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More Scottish Sunday Mail Scumbag Lies!

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From 16 cases in 4 years to 98%. Unbelieveable!

 

How DO they get away with this crap? And yet SO many will believe it, THAT'S  the scandal!!

 

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What do you expect from a piece of s***e like the Record?

 

The story is a clever collection of facts about underage kids who've gone on to work the streets, but the real scandal is that they should have been in care but wont. That bit is glossed over. And they know no one is going to challenge them.

 

It's also a good story to run at a time when celebrities are being arrested for alleged kiddy fiddling as that's in the forefont of many peoples minds. 

 

I suspect if you take the north east, north west and west midlands, the figures wont be that much different.

 

But those of us who are more aware will also realise that stories like this point the finger at the police, local drug squads, social services and other agencies for ignoring what was going on. Wouldnt surprise me that some plod were getting free BJs for turning a blind eye.

 

You can't pin all the blame on pimps and punters when the authorities sit on their collective arses and do nothing.

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What do you expect from a piece of s***e like the Record?

 

The story is a clever collection of facts about underage kids who've gone on to work the streets, but the real scandal is that they should have been in care but wont. That bit is glossed over. And they know no one is going to challenge them.

 

It's also a good story to run at a time when celebrities are being arrested for alleged kiddy fiddling as that's in the forefont of many peoples minds. 

 

I suspect if you take the north east, north west and west midlands, the figures wont be that much different.

 

But those of us who are more aware will also realise that stories like this point the finger at the police, local drug squads, social services and other agencies for ignoring what was going on. Wouldnt surprise me that some plod were getting free BJs for turning a blind eye.

 

You can't pin all the blame on pimps and punters when the authorities sit on their collective arses and do nothing.

 

i dont see the scottish press.  Is this another asian gang story like rochdale and telford?  Or is it home grown?

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Curiously there is no description of the men involved here. "Jen" the "victim" has clearly been schooled as to how her life story should be told.

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What do you expect from a piece of s***e like the Record?

 

The story is a clever collection of facts about underage kids who've gone on to work the streets, but the real scandal is that they should have been in care but wont. That bit is glossed over. And they know no one is going to challenge them.

 

 

(Sunday Mail, not Record, actually, although they DO come from the same stable/pigsty.)

 

But it's NOT a collection of facts, is it? it's full of unsubstantiated, unattributed assertions:

 

"I'd say ...", "I think ...", "It was feared ....", "... were said to be ...", "... we would estimate ...", "... three cases involving girls were recorded ..." (Cases of WHAT???), "... there were concerns ...", "Experts say ...." (WHAT experts? Experts IN WHAT?") and on it goes ....
 
NO concrete evidence, just assertion and speculation - what sort of "investigative journalism" is that?
 
Even, tellingly, the admission from Barnardo's: "... the extent, nature and scale of this problem is largely unknown."
 
Sloppy, lazy, cheap and nasty so-called journalism from an editorial regime that is not prepared to exercise balance in its reporting, only to look for sleaze and scandal and present it as the norm.

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So are we saying that no girls ever end up in prostitution via this route?

I've also read on here in the last few years that people trafficking into prostitution is all lies and made up etc.

As punters are some of us blindsided? Those FRs of disinterested EE girls unwilling to perform in the really cheap parlours - no alarm bells ringing there?

Thankfully (or at least I'd like to hope) I've never encountered anyone unwilling in my limited punting career - if I had any suspicions (behaviour etc) I'd stop the punt and consider next steps (Crimestoppers etc) if I had reasonable concerns.

But to blindly slate any 'negative' story off as 'scumbag lies' might suggest a head in the sand attitude.

Yes, I concur that this story may well be 'sensationalised' and based on a lot of rhetoric but that's not to say that this sort of thing doesn't necessarily go on just because you might not have direct experience of it.

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So are we saying that no girls ever end up in prostitution via this route?

I've also read on here in the last few years that people trafficking into prostitution is all lies and made up etc.

As punters are some of us blindsided? Those FRs of disinterested EE girls unwilling to perform in the really cheap parlours - no alarm bells ringing there?

Thankfully (or at least I'd like to hope) I've never encountered anyone unwilling in my limited punting career - if I had any suspicions (behaviour etc) I'd stop the punt and consider next steps (Crimestoppers etc) if I had reasonable concerns.

But to blindly slate any 'negative' story off as 'scumbag lies' might suggest a head in the sand attitude.

Yes, I concur that this story may well be 'sensationalised' and based on a lot of rhetoric but that's not to say that this sort of thing doesn't necessarily go on just because you might not have direct experience of it.

 

Never said it doesn't happen, Danny, just that this report is misrepresentation of the worst order.

The cases in Rochdale, Oxford and now Wellington are extreme examples showing that it does go on.

The specific cases used in the SM report may even be real ones, but the rest of it is pure trash journalism and they are NEVER interested in doing anything other than making punters out to be scum and working girls to be victims at best.

 

Do YOU believe 98% of WGs were abused in care?

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The headline could have been "Once more the system fails to work" but that wouldn't have sold as many papers. There is truth in all stories so it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. Obviously everyone on here who is a service provider or service beneficiary will find it unacceptable for various reasons because of their background.

I was wondering what all the many "guests" on this site think of the story and of the comments that have been made. It's a pity we'll never know.

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For us lazy asses who hate links you couldn't put a brief description could you as well thanks xxx

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Oh the Daily Record again. They've been dishing out at least one article like this every month this year so far. Each one becoming more desperate in an attempt to shock and scaremonger.

 

From 16 cases in 4 years to 98%.

 

 

So 98% of WGs have been sexually or physically abused as children but only 16 have been identified over the past 4 years.

 

A quick search of AW reveals there are 22,904 currently active escorts in the UK (that have logged in in the past 2 weeks).

 

Which means there are at least 22,445 men and women out there who have been abused as children but somehow slipped through the net of support services?

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The government is caving in on press control it will only get worse.

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For us lazy asses who hate links you couldn't put a brief description could you as well thanks xxx

Lazy ass. Surely not. But I do agree with you that as well as putting up the link (really it's not difficult to click though) it wouldn't go amiss to put a few words of introduction as well. That comment doesn't just apply to Toxical it applies to some others posters.

While I'm on the subject I don't have any problem with quoting a full post containing maybe 20, 30, 40, 50 words just to make a 10 - 20 word comment. Even if the comment is on the preceding post.

It's when somebody quotes a post containing 200 - 300 words in order to make a 10 - 20 word comment. Again sometimes it's the preceding post again. Then you have to read through the entire quote to find the sometimes one sentence that is being commented on.

Galahad very cleverly put in the edit facility that could be used when doing quotes. So why not use it? Is it just laziness? Is it that they don't understand what to do? Is it just a bugger you attitude? Doubtless the responses (if any) will tell me.

But if anyone responds with "bugger you and nobody tells me what to do" rather than a sensible response then what would that tell you?

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