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Came across below reposted by a girl I know here in States (her formatting) and thought that it'd be interesting to share with this group.

Article is penned by (another) 'well known' American Escort. I am not saying that I agree or disagree, merely that it touches on several points discussed recently on PN.

 

Substitute Punter for Hobbyist. Sorry for length but thought it important to include entire piece.

 

Hookers are your friends
Lots of different guys like to screw hookers. They are from every walk of life, every income bracket, every race, creed or color. There’s no way to single out a group of men and say ” those guys dont/haven’t/never will bang a hot chick in exchange for cash” they all do it, have done it, will do it. You cant divide them into groups.. you can however sub categorize them. Now the common term for pay for play companionship for those in the subculture is… “the hobby” yep fucking hookers is now a hobby, yanno like building model cars or collecting stamps. The common term for a man who fucks hookers on the regular is a “hobbyist” yep hes just engaging in a little fun past time like building a ship in a bottle. Though i dont like either of those terms i use them because they have become the lingo of the culture and its just easier (hey I’m lazy) I however am no fan and have made it no secret that I’m no fan of … the hobbyist. Don’t get me wrong i love men who fuck hookers. Hey they keep me employed and put food on my table. I like to call those men, clients. A client is a man who screws hookers. A hobbyist is a man who not only screws hookers but delves so deeply in the culture of fucking hookers that they think it makes them special… that they fuck hookers.

Newsflash: hookers get paid to screw you, its not like its a hard thing to make happen. It sure as fuck doesn’t make you special because you have a spare 300-1500 bucks for a little pay to play nookie. Its like the guy who thinks because hes got 150 to spend on a limo to go out to the club that that some how makes him special and not a douche-bag. Really hes trying to impress other people with his means and that’s what hobbyists do, spend a shit load of time trying to impress others* that hes special because he fucks hookers, spends his days posting on message boards about fucking hookers, back channeling (normal people call this gossip and sabotage) about hookers and finally writing review, after review, after review about fucking hookers. Like who ever has the most reviews of fucking hookers gets into heaven first or something. It often looks obsessive.


As a hooker with reviews i try to keep them to a manageable amount, i dont want every encounter detailed in all it’s hot sweaty glory for all the world to read. I want just enough so that potential clients know I’m legitimate, that i provide what i say i do and that I’m currently working. So when a client asks me if i would like them to write a review as they are walking out my hotel door, i usually just say “not unless you really want to”. Most of my clients are way too busy with lives outside of their hooker fucking pastime to sit down and detail how tight my pussy is anyways.

A hobbyist will always write a review. As I’ve said before its more fun if you get to brag about it after. Or if you get to slam a girl after you’ve paid to fuck her. Cuz really whats more fun then taking out your buyers remorse on someone who just sucked your cock and made you cum. Now there’s nothing wrong with being a steady reviewer but when you mix that with a constant hooker message board presence you get, “the hobbyist”. One who not only writes a review for everything but think hes an authority on all things hooker related. A hobbyist loves to tell hookers how to run their business as if someone who shells out cash for sex knows what its like to be on the other side of the fence. They dont, but they will tell you how to do everything from to market your business to how to suck a dick. Seriously they will. The will also pedal their “guidance”and curry favor, pass you around to their group of old dog friends, and work and work and work for that freebie they are all looking for. Ahhh to be the hobbyist flavor of the month, my skin is crawling just thinking about it.

A client, pays his fee, spends his time with you and then goes home to his life … because he HAS one.


Clients are what escorts want, they are low drama, they don’t demand discounted or free services because you are running 15 mins late, they call when they are going to be late. They don’t threaten you with their stature on a message board to get you to provide a service you don’t want to, They don’t stand you up after weeks of planning then blow it off because what are you gonna do complain and if you do that they will just hit the men’s only website and call you names and blah blah blah about you… Clients treat you well and are respectful of you and your time. Clients treat you like people they like, who are providing a service they want. Hobbyists are douchebags with limo mentality who more and more seem to not like women very much. It seems they are working out their mommy, wifey, or ex girlfriend* who fucked them over issues by screwing and trying to manipulate as many hookers as they can on message boards.

I was personally involved with a man who enjoyed fucking hookers for years. He was never a hobbyist, he was always a client to them. I would never date a hobbyist, yanno unless his hobby was golf or something.

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Just shows that despite the fact that the U.S.A. and the U.K. are seperated by an ocean there are occasions when we are NOT "seperated by a common language".

She had written a really interesting article and in a way that makes you want to read it. I have taken as a compliment, rightly or wrongly, that it's referred to in the U.K. as punting and not "the hobby". Someone did say to me recently that "this is not a cheap hobby" (and she was right) bur that was an aside not the usual reference to the the business in the U.K. Punting does make it sound more like a business and to me personally sounds more respectful.

She does make some very serious points sometimes more memorable because she makes them in a funny way. Her definition of the difference between the "client" and the "hobbyist" is a very good one and hits the nail on the head. What would you call it here? The difference between the "client" and the " ??????? ". Do we have an equivelant word for hobbyist. I don't think it's punter. The way she uses it hobbyist sounds demeaning. I suppose punter can sound demeaning depending on how you use it but WG's don't normally use it in a scathing way. Perhaps between thenselves? That would be disappointing.

I like her definition of a hobbyist. Particularly about getting into heaven first because you've written the most reviews. I understand her point about trying to impress people by posting on forums. Interesting that they refer to it as message boards. When you read some posts you can see that it's a deliberate attempt to impress. But there are occasions when this can be applied to WG as well as the pumter and I've no doubt it's the same in the U.S.

But what may seem to be a deliberate attempt to impress can sometimes not be intentional. The posts can be done with the best of intentions but are misinterpreted. Sometimes delinerately. Sometimes not. Again both punters and puntees. Again probably the same both sides of the Atlantic.

Are there "men only" websites where guys can get together and slag off particular working girls? I've never heard any reference to it on here. If there are is it just an American phenonemon? I have heard reference on here to "girls only" websites specifically for WG's and have assumed that it's ladies chatting to other ladies with the common bond being their job. But I have always taken it that they don't gossip about particular punters umless they are "dangerous" punters. But then again there is a place on here for information about dangerous punters.

Finally I love the fact that two of her friends are Adora Cash and Charlie Sheena. Do we have any equivelant ladies in the U.K. named Rooney or Grant? :D

Thanks Fred. :)

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Came across below reposted by a girl I know here in States (her formatting) and thought that it'd be interesting to share with this group.

Article is penned by (another) 'well known' American Escort. I am not saying that I agree or disagree, merely that it touches on several points discussed recently on PN.

 

Substitute Punter for Hobbyist. Sorry for length but thought it important to include entire piece.

 

Hookers are your friends

Lots of different guys like to screw hookers. They are from every walk of life, every income bracket, every race, creed or color. There’s no way to single out a group of men and say ” those guys dont/haven’t/never will bang a hot chick in exchange for cash” they all do it, have done it, will do it. You cant divide them into groups.. you can however sub categorize them. Now the common term for pay for play companionship for those in the subculture is… “the hobby” yep fucking hookers is now a hobby, yanno like building model cars or collecting stamps. The common term for a man who fucks hookers on the regular is a “hobbyist” yep hes just engaging in a little fun past time like building a ship in a bottle. Though i dont like either of those terms i use them because they have become the lingo of the culture and its just easier (hey I’m lazy) I however am no fan and have made it no secret that I’m no fan of … the hobbyist. Don’t get me wrong i love men who fuck hookers. Hey they keep me employed and put food on my table. I like to call those men, clients. A client is a man who screws hookers. A hobbyist is a man who not only screws hookers but delves so deeply in the culture of fucking hookers that they think it makes them special… that they fuck hookers.

Newsflash: hookers get paid to screw you, its not like its a hard thing to make happen. It sure as fuck doesn’t make you special because you have a spare 300-1500 bucks for a little pay to play nookie. Its like the guy who thinks because hes got 150 to spend on a limo to go out to the club that that some how makes him special and not a douche-bag. Really hes trying to impress other people with his means and that’s what hobbyists do, spend a shit load of time trying to impress others* that hes special because he fucks hookers, spends his days posting on message boards about fucking hookers, back channeling (normal people call this gossip and sabotage) about hookers and finally writing review, after review, after review about fucking hookers. Like who ever has the most reviews of fucking hookers gets into heaven first or something. It often looks obsessive.

As a hooker with reviews i try to keep them to a manageable amount, i dont want every encounter detailed in all it’s hot sweaty glory for all the world to read. I want just enough so that potential clients know I’m legitimate, that i provide what i say i do and that I’m currently working. So when a client asks me if i would like them to write a review as they are walking out my hotel door, i usually just say “not unless you really want to”. Most of my clients are way too busy with lives outside of their hooker fucking pastime to sit down and detail how tight my pussy is anyways.

A hobbyist will always write a review. As I’ve said before its more fun if you get to brag about it after. Or if you get to slam a girl after you’ve paid to fuck her. Cuz really whats more fun then taking out your buyers remorse on someone who just sucked your cock and made you cum. Now there’s nothing wrong with being a steady reviewer but when you mix that with a constant hooker message board presence you get, “the hobbyist”. One who not only writes a review for everything but think hes an authority on all things hooker related. A hobbyist loves to tell hookers how to run their business as if someone who shells out cash for sex knows what its like to be on the other side of the fence. They dont, but they will tell you how to do everything from to market your business to how to suck a dick. Seriously they will. The will also pedal their “guidance”and curry favor, pass you around to their group of old dog friends, and work and work and work for that freebie they are all looking for. Ahhh to be the hobbyist flavor of the month, my skin is crawling just thinking about it.

A client, pays his fee, spends his time with you and then goes home to his life … because he HAS one.

Clients are what escorts want, they are low drama, they don’t demand discounted or free services because you are running 15 mins late, they call when they are going to be late. They don’t threaten you with their stature on a message board to get you to provide a service you don’t want to, They don’t stand you up after weeks of planning then blow it off because what are you gonna do complain and if you do that they will just hit the men’s only website and call you names and blah blah blah about you… Clients treat you well and are respectful of you and your time. Clients treat you like people they like, who are providing a service they want. Hobbyists are douchebags with limo mentality who more and more seem to not like women very much. It seems they are working out their mommy, wifey, or ex girlfriend* who fucked them over issues by screwing and trying to manipulate as many hookers as they can on message boards.

I was personally involved with a man who enjoyed fucking hookers for years. He was never a hobbyist, he was always a client to them. I would never date a hobbyist, yanno unless his hobby was golf or something.

 

So eloquently put.  Not sure I'd have the balls to be so blatant in the way she writes it, but wholeheartedly agree with what she has to say, especially the highlighted bit.  Only yesterday I was winding a few up on another thread and said the same thing because a punter tried to impart his fountain on knowledge on an experienced lady, even said she was talking out of her arse, not sure that's possible, but hey ho!

 

If male posters are hobbyist's, what are female posters?

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This girl is brilliant! Spot on. Let's face it, 90% of the male posters on here are hobbyists.

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I have been punting for a couple of decades, and have written many times on punting forums, but I dont think that makes me any the wiser than someone who has just found the thrill of seeing an escort or posting about it for the first time.

 

Many folk, escorts included, are more wordly wise than I am, and it shows on the forums, but I still get thrill seeing escorts and saying my piece on issues, its a learning curve about some issues for me, and if im called a hobbyist by some then thats okay, as I do see it as a bit of a hobby now that I have more time on my hands, well it beats doing jig-saws.

 

The trick is to give it some consideration, as well as living real life, reading, meeting friends, and being a family man, and giving all hobbies like cricket, reading, gardening, equal amount of time, and balancing out life skills.

 

Dont care really what some folk think of me, as im just a keyboard warrier like anyone else on here, and my real personality is shown to those who know me.

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Hmmm, some fair points, on knowalls and slaggers-off particularly. Some points for self-examination too. Not sure there's a simple binary distinction though.

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I think the term "biting the hand that feeds" comes to mind.  Whether their customer is a "client" or a "hobbyist", they are the ones who are paying for the service and should be treated with the same respect as any customer/supplier relationship.

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Yeah? Maybe. I know who I like to see, but then again it's the luck of the draw innit? Funny how the 'hobbyists' are usually the most socially inadequate, the least attractive/worst performers. Just an observation.

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There is a difference between the hobbyist and a man who just pays for sex on occasion. It doesn't mean they are any better or worse than each other. 

 

It's easy to forget when you hang around here that most clients are not like the guys who post on here regularly. Most fellows just get the horn,  look up who they want to see, book, show up and go away again. They don't over think it and don't feel the need to discuss every little thing about punting and don't think about reviewing or starting posts fretting or critisising every little detail such as preference over stockings and hold ups, what colour bedroom wall you prefer or start detailed discussion on breast sizes (for example).

 

It's not a bad thing as such, it's the same as those who enjoy going on trains against those who are train spotters, post on train forums, go out of their way to see new/special trains and keep records. 

 

Maybe instead of hobbyist the term should be whorespotter! I do think however, that sometimes getting caught up on a forum means some men forget the simple pleasure of paying for sex and it becomes something that needs to be worried and fretted over. 

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Prefer the word enthusiast myself..

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You'll have to forgive my generalisations but I've seen enough weirdos/stalkers and ne'er-do-wells to have let it colour my thinking. The girls who say they enjoy meeting and having sex with strangers who for a large part are less than wholesome, well I am genuinely puzzled and I take my proverbial hat off to them: they must surely get to pick and choose? See photos? How else explain it? Rather, good acting girls?

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The point is.......the word/name does not really matter, unless your obsessive and need to be labelled something/somone.

 

MinxyLydia is right when she says "Dont forget the simple pleasure of paying for sex, no need to worry or fret over it"...spot on Lydia, ;)

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I think the term "biting the hand that feeds" comes to mind.  Whether their customer is a "client" or a "hobbyist", they are the ones who are paying for the service and should be treated with the same respect as any customer/supplier relationship.

 

Mr Lex, with all due respect,  your words of "biting the hand that feeds"  shows condescension in many ways.......and something that is only a term of use for fools.

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is a difference between the hobbyist and a man who just pays for sex on occasion. It doesn't mean they are any better or worse than each other. 

 

It's easy to forget when you hang around here that most clients are not like the guys who post on here regularly. Most fellows just get the horn,  look up who they want to see, book, show up and go away again. They don't over think it and don't feel the need to discuss every little thing about punting and don't think about reviewing or starting posts fretting or critisising every little detail such as preference over stockings and hold ups, what colour bedroom wall you prefer or start detailed discussion on breast sizes (for example).

 

It's not a bad thing as such, it's the same as those who enjoy going on trains against those who are train spotters, post on train forums, go out of their way to see new/special trains and keep records. 

 

Maybe instead of hobbyist the term should be whorespotter! I do think however, that sometimes getting caught up on a forum means some men forget the simple pleasure of paying for sex and it becomes something that needs to be worried and fretted over. 

 

I totally agree with what you say here Lydia. 

 

 

 

 

IMO A respectable client has/would have no interest in argueing on a sex forum about minute details of what an escort does for services (crass) or the amount of minutes for the $$£££££, let alone the colour of stockings, boob size or appearance - god forbid. 

 

The type of man that will frequent these forums, haggling/arguing & looking for the best bargain bucket,  with a misogynist attitude towards woman complaining about everything- is most deffo the client that I would avoid at all costs.

 

 

 

I much prefer to see the more respectable client/Gentleman that has oodles of manners and courteousness. :)

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Mr Lex, with all due respect,  your words of "biting the hand that feeds"  shows condescension in many ways.......and something that is only a term of use for fools.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I totally agree with what you say here Lydia. 

 

 

 

 

IMO A respectable client has/would have no interest in argueing on a sex forum about minute details of what an escort does for services (crass) or the amount of minutes for the $$£££££, let alone the colour of stockings, boob size or appearance - god forbid. 

 

The type of man that will frequent these forums, haggling/arguing & looking for the best bargain bucket,  with a misogynist attitude towards woman complaining about everything- is most deffo the client that I would avoid at all costs.

 

 

 

I much prefer to see the more respectable client/Gentleman that has oodles of manners and courteousness. :)

 

Perhaps you would prefer the even more well-trained, gentlemanly ones who post the money through the letterbox in an envelope and bugger off without disturbing you!!! :P;):lol:

 

But seriously...I think you're generalising to say that those who frequent punting forums are less courteous in person than others.

 

Obviously, when speaking in an ostensibly male environment such as this about your experiences you are going to use different language and give more anatomical description than when conversing with a refined courtesan such as yourself. Of course it may seem crass to a lady, but when relatively large sums of hard-earned taxed disposable income and very few windows of opportunity are involved, we need the detailed information to know we are making the best choices.

 

I'm not making apologies for the misogynists, I don't think there's any room for that in punting, but perhaps ladies of a sensitive disposition shouldn't read these forums where males are looking to exchange useful information with other males, not for the purposes of self-aggrandisement but just for practical reasons, although there is some camaraderie and male-bonding between punters on a forum.

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Came across below reposted by a girl I know here in States (her formatting) and thought that it'd be interesting to share with this group.

Article is penned by (another) 'well known' American Escort. I am not saying that I agree or disagree, merely that it touches on several points discussed recently on PN.

 

Substitute Punter for Hobbyist. Sorry for length but thought it important to include entire piece.

 

Hookers are your friends

Lots of different guys like to screw hookers. They are from every walk of life, every income bracket, every race, creed or color. There’s no way to single out a group of men and say ” those guys dont/haven’t/never will bang a hot chick in exchange for cash” they all do it, have done it, will do it. You cant divide them into groups.. you can however sub categorize them. Now the common term for pay for play companionship for those in the subculture is… “the hobby” yep fucking hookers is now a hobby, yanno like building model cars or collecting stamps. The common term for a man who fucks hookers on the regular is a “hobbyist” yep hes just engaging in a little fun past time like building a ship in a bottle. Though i dont like either of those terms i use them because they have become the lingo of the culture and its just easier (hey I’m lazy) I however am no fan and have made it no secret that I’m no fan of … the hobbyist. Don’t get me wrong i love men who fuck hookers. Hey they keep me employed and put food on my table. I like to call those men, clients. A client is a man who screws hookers. A hobbyist is a man who not only screws hookers but delves so deeply in the culture of fucking hookers that they think it makes them special… that they fuck hookers.

Newsflash: hookers get paid to screw you, its not like its a hard thing to make happen. It sure as fuck doesn’t make you special because you have a spare 300-1500 bucks for a little pay to play nookie. Its like the guy who thinks because hes got 150 to spend on a limo to go out to the club that that some how makes him special and not a douche-bag. Really hes trying to impress other people with his means and that’s what hobbyists do, spend a shit load of time trying to impress others* that hes special because he fucks hookers, spends his days posting on message boards about fucking hookers, back channeling (normal people call this gossip and sabotage) about hookers and finally writing review, after review, after review about fucking hookers. Like who ever has the most reviews of fucking hookers gets into heaven first or something. It often looks obsessive.

As a hooker with reviews i try to keep them to a manageable amount, i dont want every encounter detailed in all it’s hot sweaty glory for all the world to read. I want just enough so that potential clients know I’m legitimate, that i provide what i say i do and that I’m currently working. So when a client asks me if i would like them to write a review as they are walking out my hotel door, i usually just say “not unless you really want to”. Most of my clients are way too busy with lives outside of their hooker fucking pastime to sit down and detail how tight my pussy is anyways.

A hobbyist will always write a review. As I’ve said before its more fun if you get to brag about it after. Or if you get to slam a girl after you’ve paid to fuck her. Cuz really whats more fun then taking out your buyers remorse on someone who just sucked your cock and made you cum. Now there’s nothing wrong with being a steady reviewer but when you mix that with a constant hooker message board presence you get, “the hobbyist”. One who not only writes a review for everything but think hes an authority on all things hooker related. A hobbyist loves to tell hookers how to run their business as if someone who shells out cash for sex knows what its like to be on the other side of the fence. They dont, but they will tell you how to do everything from to market your business to how to suck a dick. Seriously they will. The will also pedal their “guidance”and curry favor, pass you around to their group of old dog friends, and work and work and work for that freebie they are all looking for. Ahhh to be the hobbyist flavor of the month, my skin is crawling just thinking about it.

A client, pays his fee, spends his time with you and then goes home to his life … because he HAS one.

Clients are what escorts want, they are low drama, they don’t demand discounted or free services because you are running 15 mins late, they call when they are going to be late. They don’t threaten you with their stature on a message board to get you to provide a service you don’t want to, They don’t stand you up after weeks of planning then blow it off because what are you gonna do complain and if you do that they will just hit the men’s only website and call you names and blah blah blah about you… Clients treat you well and are respectful of you and your time. Clients treat you like people they like, who are providing a service they want. Hobbyists are douchebags with limo mentality who more and more seem to not like women very much. It seems they are working out their mommy, wifey, or ex girlfriend* who fucked them over issues by screwing and trying to manipulate as many hookers as they can on message boards.

I was personally involved with a man who enjoyed fucking hookers for years. He was never a hobbyist, he was always a client to them. I would never date a hobbyist, yanno unless his hobby was golf or something.

I enjoyed reading that.  Some of what she says is 'bang on the nail'..  however...  it is difficult to put men into categories, and no one man is the same as any other.

 

There are different degrees of 'Hobbyism'.  I mean..  the man who posts on here for starters - how do we know that he ever actually punts?  He may say he does, but how do we really know?

 

I remember a man who used to post on the old board prolifically.  He is long gone now. He knew everything there was to know about punting.  He would come in on every thread and give his opinion and advice.. advice in bucketfuls, and on the face of it - seemed like a punter, but he never wrote reviews.  Instead he would say things about ladies he had seen, never giving specifics.

He had this reputation for  turning  up at Punter socials and hang around the ladies, often ending up back in the hotel rooms cadging a bed for the night and expecting a freebie - all because he was this well known name on PN.  

Then he attached himself to a working girl who had a boyfriend.  He cultivated this fake relationship and nurtured it by getting up close on the message forum, sending PM messages and then meeting up at socials..    It was never a relationship - well maybe in his head.  That one ended up with tears at bedtime.

 

These guys who think they are king of a keyboard promote' hobbyism', when it fact it is not at all.  There must be another description for men like this -' fantasist' perhaps?  They enjoy having other guys look up to them and asking for advice on matters punting.

 

There are other hobbyists who only see a certain type of lady, and will not deviate from that body shape age hair colour etc etc.  Nothing wrong with that at all.  That is their choice, but to be critical about any other lady outside of that criteria is very short sighted and says more about them than anything they could possibly say.

 

The other hobbyist is the one who 'collects' ladies like butterflies.  He will travel the length and breadth of the country to see ladies who are collectible and he will review them.  I have seen these guys.  I do not understand what they get out of it to be honest.  The punt is merely the catalyst for what happens next.

 

This man will have a massive amount of info stored on his computer.  This will include every field report written on the lady.  He will have downloaded her web details, and any other information he can glean on her. To add to this he will write a review which in his mind is the best ever written and he will send it to her and say so..........

He will have details of every punt he has ever had, the distance from his home, the money he spent on the punt and sundries such as petrol.

 

He will know names dates, amounts.  he can't wait to get back home and start a new spreadsheet :) This is a true hobbyist,  The punt is not the point - it's the train spotting activity that follows is what he really gets off on.

 

I mucho prefer clients.  The ones who come and see me and have fun and then leave.  Some clients are so lovely.  We might talk about anything with them and know it stays between us.  These are genuinely nice men with needs and wants and also want me to have a nice time without being overbearing about it.  When I say overbearing I mean such things as insisting I have an orgasm.

 

Bring on the client.  The no-strings - lets have fun and banter, or fun and no banter.  just the fun, and the sex please !

 

Love the job - hate the politics.

Edited by Sarah Summers

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I started punting in May 2012 on impulse. I was told about and joined Pnet in June 2012 to leave an FR on the lady who had told me about Pnet. I think it was about August when I looked at Pnet seriously and started posting.

I can honestly say that reading other people's views (whether I agreed with them or not) and the pm's/emails that I have exchanged with punters and puntees alike has made my punting over the last year, particularly the last nine months, much more enjoyable than it would otherwise have been. The knowledge and information that I have amassed in the last nine months plus in some instances some very good advice had been immeasurable.

So why not get rid of the little digs and sarcasm that occasionalky spring up and act like adults. Adults who are customers and retailers in a business that they both want to be involved in.

Anyway I thank all the good guys and gals and, surprisingly perhaps, I have some thanks for everyone else as well.

Remember that just because some of us, particularly the retired ones like myself, post more than others it doesn't mean that we are sat in front of a pc all day trying to fill in a boring day. I have quite a full and active life. Akso thank heaven for the smartphones that give you internet access anywhere at any time. The people that I am with now would be very surprised at what I'm typing on my iPhone.

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I think the term "biting the hand that feeds" comes to mind.  Whether their customer is a "client" or a "hobbyist", they are the ones who are paying for the service and should be treated with the same respect as any customer/supplier relationship.

 

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Hobbyists write reviews to assuage 'buyers remorse' ?

 

Maybe some, not all, certainly doesnt seem to be generally true on here

 

Simply another example among many of trite, lazy, categorizing of individuals

Would be just as easy to 'humorously' categorize all wgs into 2 groups, 1 complimentary, the other less than 

 

Sites like PNET and the myriad reviews are essential for any punter who cares about getting a decent service for his not inconsiderable money

 

Helps other 'punters' ('hobbyists') make informed choices about who to book and who to avoid

 

Consistently good SP = consistently good reviews

Consistently bad SP = consistently bad reviews

the rest in the middle....

 

and then theres the added benefit of a greater general awareness of who the scammers and rip off artists are

 

 

Of course a lot of wgs wont like review sites and message boards, hence this article

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Hobbyists write reviews to assuage 'buyers remorse' ?

 

Maybe some, not all, certainly doesnt seem to be generally true on here

 

Simply another example among many of trite, lazy, categorizing of individuals

Would be just as easy to 'humorously' categorize all wgs into 2 groups, 1 complimentary, the other less than 

 

Sites like PNET and the myriad reviews are essential for any punter who cares about getting a decent service for his not inconsiderable money

 

Helps other 'punters' ('hobbyists') make informed choices about who to book and who to avoid

 

Consistently good SP = consistently good reviews

Consistently bad SP = consistently bad reviews

the rest in the middle....

 

and then theres the added benefit of a greater general awareness of who the scammers and rip off artists are

 

 

Of course a lot of wgs wont like review sites and message boards, hence this article

If we only posted in a complimentary way we would be deemed touts !

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I enjoyed reading that.  Some of what she says is 'bang on the nail'..  however...  it is difficult to put men into categories, and no one man is the same as any other.

 

Bring on the client.  The no-strings - lets have fun and banter, or fun and no banter.  just the fun, and the sex please !

 

Exactly, we are all individuals,  though what we do have in common is a need to be able to talk about a booking, otherwise its going to just lay there in our brains.

 

The no strings client might appeal to many escorts but try telling that to Galahad, or any forum owner.

 

I post on forums because I punt...I dont punt to be on forums.

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This girl is brilliant! Spot on. Let's face it, 90% of the male posters on here are hobbyists.

I can safely brag that I include myself in the 10% who are not.

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I started punting in May 2012 on impulse. I was told about and joined Pnet in June 2012 to leave an FR on the lady who had told me about Pnet. I think it was about August when I looked at Pnet seriously and started posting.

I can honestly say that reading other people's views (whether I agreed with them or not) and the pm's/emails that I have exchanged with punters and puntees alike has made my punting over the last year, particularly the last nine months, much more enjoyable than it would otherwise have been. The knowledge and information that I have amassed in the last nine months plus in some instances some very good advice had been immeasurable.

So why not get rid of the little digs and sarcasm that occasionalky spring up and act like adults. Adults who are customers and retailers in a business that they both want to be involved in.

Anyway I thank all the good guys and gals and, surprisingly perhaps, I have some thanks for everyone else as well.

Remember that just because some of us, particularly the retired ones like myself, post more than others it doesn't mean that we are sat in front of a pc all day trying to fill in a boring day. I have quite a full and active life. Akso thank heaven for the smartphones that give you internet access anywhere at any time. The people that I am with now would be very surprised at what I'm typing on my iPhone.

You will never get rid of the little digs and sarcasm because this is what PN thrives on Gibbsy!

 

Sometimes, making a post on here is akin to entering the Lion's den...  you may or may not get your head bitten off depending upon the reading Lion on that day....................

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Perhaps you would prefer the even more well-trained, gentlemanly ones who post the money through the letterbox in an envelope and bugger off without disturbing you!!! :P;):lol:

 

But seriously...I think you're generalising to say that those who frequent punting forums are less courteous in person than others.

 

Obviously, when speaking in an ostensibly male environment such as this about your experiences you are going to use different language and give more anatomical description than when conversing with a refined courtesan such as yourself. Of course it may seem crass to a lady, but when relatively large sums of hard-earned taxed disposable income and very few windows of opportunity are involved, we need the detailed information to know we are making the best choices.

 

I'm not making apologies for the misogynists, I don't think there's any room for that in punting, but perhaps ladies of a sensitive disposition shouldn't read these forums where males are looking to exchange useful information with other males, not for the purposes of self-aggrandisement but just for practical reasons, although there is some camaraderie and male-bonding between punters on a forum.

Venturer,

 

As you know, these types of forums attract all sorts of different characters,.varied type of clients  and it was the particular type of misogynists client that I was referring to in my post, that perhaps do not even "punt"/or punt once a year/every decade,/punt on a low budget and like to sit behind their computers

anonymous in their spare time picking woman to bits just for the hell of it or not having the balls to say outright to the woman they have had a meeting with

 

-what they feel-but will come onto a forum and start a thread about " Punt went wrong, what shall I do rubbish?"  or "*Jessie* over weight now, dont bother with

her" although this "type" of client will not say to the wgs face but let off steam on a public forum!!

 

There are the other sort of client that is disgruntled with life in general, let alone having to pay for sex, and begrudges "paying for it"  which you can see

bitterness leaking through the words of posts on these types of characters.

 

I agree Venturer, that of course information should be shared between males/clients- but not in a detrimental manner, if I was a man, I would be doing research

on a lady- but would want quality- not quantity- so it would not matter how long to save up for the meeting- I would rather have one excellent meeting that would

stay with me in my memory rather than a blur of short, tacky meetings with woman I had not researched and wasted my hard earned on thus no good memory.

 

I agree that it is difficult as a client to see the jem through the shit sometimes- there is a lot of shit out there in the sex industry- like bait and switch, photo shopped rubbish,accurate details not being so accurate etc,. etc,.  so maybe in reviews there could be an introduction of appearance wise/more info required on stats/accurate info ? 

 

or to make it more easier for other clients to know exactly what they are getting in a meeting with the particular escort in question.

 

Alot of woman that are successful in the business have ref clients to them- so they will always do well when working as an escort and work on their good rep consistantly and keep up to date,  so have alot to lose if they cheat/lie. 

 The escorts that cheat and lie to clients  simply can change names frequently and move on (work on different appearance, hair colour etc,.)- wheather working singular/indy or for an agency- the agency will just re-invent them under a different name if they are short staffed/in need of girls. 

 

I understand it is difficult for a client when looking for what he wants in a wg sometimes, so research is necessary, I just think IMO having a little decorum for some posters goes a long way, thats all :)

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There is a difference between the hobbyist and a man who just pays for sex on occasion. It doesn't mean they are any better or worse than each other. 

 

It's easy to forget when you hang around here that most clients are not like the guys who post on here regularly. Most fellows just get the horn,  look up who they want to see, book, show up and go away again. They don't over think it and don't feel the need to discuss every little thing about punting and don't think about reviewing or starting posts fretting or critisising every little detail such as preference over stockings and hold ups, what colour bedroom wall you prefer or start detailed discussion on breast sizes (for example).

 

It's not a bad thing as such, it's the same as those who enjoy going on trains against those who are train spotters, post on train forums, go out of their way to see new/special trains and keep records. 

 

Maybe instead of hobbyist the term should be whorespotter! I do think however, that sometimes getting caught up on a forum means some men forget the simple pleasure of paying for sex and it becomes something that needs to be worried and fretted over. 

Yes very very true. I am a punter and will always be a punter. :)

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You'll have to forgive my generalisations but I've seen enough weirdos/stalkers and ne'er-do-wells to have let it colour my thinking. The girls who say they enjoy meeting and having sex with strangers who for a large part are less than wholesome, well I am genuinely puzzled and I take my proverbial hat off to them: they must surely get to pick and choose? See photos? How else explain it? Rather, good acting girls?

I'm intrigued- Are you not an escort yourself? A lady punter or just intrigued?

 

I enjoy meeting strange men for sex.

What makes you think most of them are unwholesome?

I pick and choose based on their approach to me

No photos needed- they have to fancy me, not the other way around. 

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Sorry, cocked up! 


 

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