hotgirlseeker

First Time Nervous Punter

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I have been debating whether or not to use the services of a WG or not. In the end, I decided to go for it; I have too may fantasies that I have not had fulfilled yet.

 

 

The main thing holding me back (apart from the initial worries of inadvertently exploiting some "poor female"), my real concern is that of STIs. Using very simple logic and some guestimates, a typical WG is exposed to as many partners in a week, than the most promiscuous man (not using WGs) experiences in a lifetime!. So it follows that WGs could potentially be major "hubs" for the transmission of STIs.

 

I am surprised at some of the services on offer, and also some of the services demanded by some punters. The mere thought of "eating out" a WG, with all the "visitors" she may have services that day alone (not to mention that week/month), literally makes me want to throw up a bit; yet some punters insist on giving oral to WGs; and some (I shudder at the thought, request BB sex!).  It seems that a sizeable proportion of punters have a pretty laissez faire approach to sexual health.

 

I am sure that I am not the only one out there that has some concerns about the potential health hazards of this "adventure", can any punter out there who regularly uses WGs tell me how they manage (i.e. minimise or even eliminate) this risk of contracting an STI from a WG?.

 

 

A basic checklist from a health conscious but experienced punter would be useful in helping me get started. I am literally "raring to go", but I need to make sure that I am not putting myself (or anyone else for that matter) at risk from an STI.

 

 

I hope to learn from the more experienced on here, to take the sufficient precautions before "dipping my wick" :)

 

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The girl will make sure you take all necessary precautions, otherwise simply refuse to do anything you're uncomfortable with, which will probably turn out to be nothing. Just pick up the phone and do it. Happy punting.

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I have been debating whether or not to use the services of a WG or not. In the end, I decided to go for it; I have too may fantasies that I have not had fulfilled yet.

I suggest you start with someone who is known to provide a quality service - Soho is too hit and miss for a first punt in my opinion

 

 

The main thing holding me back (apart from the initial worries of inadvertently exploiting some "poor female"), my real concern is that of STIs. Using very simple logic and some guestimates, a typical WG is exposed to as many partners in a week, than the most promiscuous man (not using WGs) experiences in a lifetime!. So it follows that WGs could potentially be major "hubs" for the transmission of STIs.

Yes, it's a risk, but it can be reduced if you don't go for the high turnover girls, again Soho, but that's OK if all activity is covered, and the audience is still out on owo being safe or not

 

I am surprised at some of the services on offer, and also some of the services demanded by some punters. The mere thought of "eating out" a WG, with all the "visitors" she may have services that day alone (not to mention that week/month), literally makes me want to throw up a bit; yet some punters insist on giving oral to WGs; and some (I shudder at the thought, request BB sex!).  It seems that a sizeable proportion of punters have a pretty laissez faire approach to sexual health.

BB - avoid any girl that offers. Going down is one of my favourite pasttimes, except in Soho. Note - this is not mandatory on your part and no girl will expect this of you.

 

I am sure that I am not the only one out there that has some concerns about the potential health hazards of this "adventure", can any punter out there who regularly uses WGs tell me how they manage (i.e. minimise or even eliminate) this risk of contracting an STI from a WG?.

Stay with parlours or good and recommended quality providers - I can give you several suggestions if you want, depending on your preference

 

 

A basic checklist from a health conscious but experienced punter would be useful in helping me get started. I am literally "raring to go", but I need to make sure that I am not putting myself (or anyone else for that matter) at risk from an STI.

 

 

I hope to learn from the more experienced on here, to take the sufficient precautions before "dipping my wick" :)

 

I've put a few comments above - hope this helps - PM me if you need more.

 

Please note that this is not an anti-Soho response, just my view on what should be considered

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I wonder if due to the fact that you think escorts are riddled with diseases and the thought of giving one oral sex makes you want to throw up you should think about a different hobby?

 

Yes, offended. 

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I wonder if due to the fact that you think escorts are riddled with diseases and the thought of giving one oral sex makes you want to throw up you should think about a different hobby?

 

Yes, offended. 

 

I assume the OP is just unaware of the thoroughness and the attention to detail when it comes to WGs regarding safety and STIs. The fact he has never seen a WG before probably shows that. I wouldn't be too offended if I were you, he's probably just abit naive to the punting scene. :)

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http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/STIs/Pages/Sexualactivitiesandrisk.aspx#Attitudes

Consider this link. There is a risk of STD. But there is a risk of being run over crossing the road and so on. My view is if I avoid WG who offer BB, and am clean and tidy and expect the same, the risk of sex is acceptable. and OOOH so nice at times.

IMHO the key to oral safety is your own mouth. Your body is amazing at dealing with things - or we would have died out years ago. Avoid blood to blood transfer. If doing oral, dont vigously brush your teeth 5 minutes before.

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http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/STIs/Pages/Sexualactivitiesandrisk.aspx#Attitudes

Consider this link. There is a risk of STD. But there is a risk of being run over crossing the road and so on. My view is if I avoid WG who offer BB, and am clean and tidy and expect the same, the risk of sex is acceptable. and OOOH so nice at times.

IMHO the key to oral safety is your own mouth. Your body is amazing at dealing with things - or we would have died out years ago. Avoid blood to blood transfer. If doing oral, dont vigously brush your teeth 5 minutes before.

 

I would suggest a couple of hours before - use mouthwash instead

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There are two kinds of people in the professional services business.

 

Most people are like lawyers or surgeons.  Your lawyer may say that there's no way a jury will convict you, and your surgeon may tell you he's done this operation a thousand times before.  But in the end, you're the one who ends up in jail, or with the wrong leg amputated.

 

However, tucked away in a corner of the services world are people who are in it with you.  People like airline pilots, for example.  They walk round the plane and kick the tyres before every flight, because they're going up in the plane too.  (The day we get passenger-carrying drones is the day I stop flying.)

 

WGs are like airline pilots (or better still: tandem parachute instructors!), not lawyers.  That's your reassurance.  Of course, you want to book a WG who actually takes safety seriously (for example, if her AW profile says that she will check your AW profile to see if you have feedback from girls who do bareback).  But most do, it seems.

 

Now, all that said, almost no WG will object to covered oral (many make you pay extra for uncovered!) and as raylondoner says, unlike your girlfriend, a WG does not expect you to satisfy her sexual needs at all - although of course it can be a great part of the girlfriend experience to do that.

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There are two kinds of people in the professional services business.

 

Most people are like lawyers or surgeons.  Your lawyer may say that there's no way a jury will convict you, and your surgeon may tell you he's done this operation a thousand times before.  But in the end, you're the one who ends up in jail, or with the wrong leg amputated.

 

However, tucked away in a corner of the services world are people who are in it with you.  People like airline pilots, for example.  They walk round the plane and kick the tyres before every flight, because they're going up in the plane too.  (The day we get passenger-carrying drones is the day I stop flying.)

 

WGs are like airline pilots (or better still: tandem parachute instructors!), not lawyers.  That's your reassurance.  Of course, you want to book a WG who actually takes safety seriously (for example, if her AW profile says that she will check your AW profile to see if you have feedback from girls who do bareback).  But most do, it seems.

 

Now, all that said, almost no WG will object to covered oral (many make you pay extra for uncovered!) and as raylondoner says, unlike your girlfriend, a WG does not expect you to satisfy her sexual needs at all - although of course it can be a great part of the girlfriend experience to do that.

 

But they will apreciate it, and will reciprocate if you try

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If I were you -- or if I could turn the clock back and start again -- I would make the opposite decision and not bother to punt. For all the self-serving dogma and self-justification you'll get from posters on here, paying for sex with complete strangers at best temporarily scratches a physical itch but is mainly a thoroughly unrewarding experience -- unless you have a very low satisfaction threshold responsive almost exclusively to physical stimuli only. Yes, occasionally you'll have a great punting experience. Far more often you'll find yourself in a charmless room with an overworked girl who's fucking you for cash, much as one or both of you might try to pretend otherwise. Does that sound fun to you? Based on 30 years of punting experience, my conclusion has become firmly that it's not.

 

To address your specific points (in CAPS below):

 

 

I have been debating whether or not to use the services of a WG or not. In the end, I decided to go for it; I have too may fantasies that I have not had fulfilled yet.

 

SEE ABOVE. THERE ARE BETTER WAYS AND SOME FANTASIES ARE BEST REMAINING JUST THAT. FANTASIES.

 

 

The main thing holding me back (apart from the initial worries of inadvertently exploiting some "poor female"), my real concern is that of STIs. Using very simple logic and some guestimates, a typical WG is exposed to as many partners in a week, than the most promiscuous man (not using WGs) experiences in a lifetime!. So it follows that WGs could potentially be major "hubs" for the transmission of STIs.

 

I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM BUT MOST WGS ARE EXTREMELY HEALTH CONSCIOUS SO UNLESS YOU'RE SEEING BB PROVIDERS OR STREET GIRLS OR SOME OTHER HIGH-RISK SUB-GROUP, THE RISK IS GENERALLY LOW.

 

I am surprised at some of the services on offer, and also some of the services demanded by some punters. The mere thought of "eating out" a WG, with all the "visitors" she may have services that day alone (not to mention that week/month), literally makes me want to throw up a bit; yet some punters insist on giving oral to WGs; and some (I shudder at the thought, request BB sex!).  It seems that a sizeable proportion of punters have a pretty laissez faire approach to sexual health.

 

I HAVE GONE, OR WENT, THROUGH DIFFERENT PERIODS IN MY PUNTING CAREER. FOR MANY YEARS I WOULD NOT HAVE CONSIDERED REVERSE ORAL, THEN I WENT THROUGH A PERIOD WHERE IT WAS A FAVOURITE ACTIVITY. LATER, IN THE END, I RETURNED TO FINDING IT A BIT GROSS AND STOPPED. TO EACH HIS OWN. I SUSPECT ONCE YOU'VE STARTED PUNTING YOU'LL BE SURPRISED WHAT YOU "GROW INTO".

 

I am sure that I am not the only one out there that has some concerns about the potential health hazards of this "adventure", can any punter out there who regularly uses WGs tell me how they manage (i.e. minimise or even eliminate) this risk of contracting an STI from a WG?.

 

USE CONDOMS. SIMPLE.

 

A basic checklist from a health conscious but experienced punter would be useful in helping me get started. I am literally "raring to go", but I need to make sure that I am not putting myself (or anyone else for that matter) at risk from an STI.

 

YOU WILL DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR YOU AND GOOD LUCK. BUT I HOPE YOU LEARN THAT PUNTING IS A PYRRHIC VICTORY BEFORE YOU WASTE TOO MUCH TIME AND MONEY IF YOUR EXPERIENCE IS ANYTHING LIKE MINE.

 

I hope to learn from the more experienced on here, to take the sufficient precautions before "dipping my wick" :)

 

One last thing. The reflections above are in no way intended as a criticism of WGs. The fact that in the end I have found punting to be more or less a completely unrewarding past-time is without doubt more a reflection of me and my values than the quality of service from the girls I've seen over the years.

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Very useful feedback. Thank you all who have taken the time to respond (despite my innumerable typos!). 

 

@rayLondoner: Thank you for your very detailed response. Lots of food for thought (not to mention encouragement!) there ... :)

@griffon11: Thanks for the link (even though it made me even more nervous!)

@MinxyLydia: Did not mean to offend, I was just quoting basic statistics (i.e. population averages) ... the numbers are truly mind boggling.

@hotdogburger: That's one interesting way to look at things. Thanks for the insight :)

 

@Lohengrin: Most profound, sage advice. I will have to remember your words so that I don't develop any predilections in this area. Your statement: "

 I SUSPECT ONCE YOU'VE STARTED PUNTING YOU'LL BE SURPRISED WHAT YOU "GROW INTO", is simultaneously alluring and threatening. I hear what you are saying about letting some fantasies stay fantasies, but I don't have any "strange" fantasies or fetishes. I just want to see what its like with different types of girls, nationalities, body shapes/sizes etc - nothing kinky or "perverse" - just natural curiosity (and lust ;)).

 

As an aside, @Lohengrin, which types of girls would you consider to be in a HIGH-RISK SUB-GROUP ?. Obviously, I would not consider street walkers/drug addled WGs, or those that were clearly being coerced into doing something they didn't want to do.

 

Once again, thanks to everyone for their useful input - much appreciated.

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But they will apreciate it, and will reciprocate if you try

 

Oh true, and I do.  But as long as you're polite, I don't think any WG would get stroppy if she asked if a punter wanted to lick her pussy and he said "no thanks".  (As long as he said that *before* he got close to it ;))

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Whilst an increased number of sexual partners does increase the chances and risk of coming into contact with an STI, you could be incredibly unlucky and catch something from your first, or your 101st encounter.

 

All you can do is arm yourself with as much information as possible, and only participate in activities you are happy with the level of risk of. It's also your responsibility to practice safe sex, as well as get yourself checked over every once in a while at your local GUM clinic.

 

If you punt in the fear of STIs you will not be able to relax and enjoy yourself, and will be simply wasting your time and money.

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In order to help the OP, I would like to add another question. What would happen if you stated at the start of your session that you wanted OW and no RO? That should be pretty safe, shouldn't it? Once upon a time, before the influx of SPs from outside the UK, this would be considered the norm, right?

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Whilst an increased number of sexual partners does increase the chances and risk of coming into contact with an STI, you could be incredibly unlucky and catch something from your first, or your 101st encounter.

 

All you can do is arm yourself with as much information as possible, and only participate in activities you are happy with the level of risk of. It's also your responsibility to practice safe sex, as well as get yourself checked over every once in a while at your local GUM clinic.

 

If you punt in the fear of STIs you will not be able to relax and enjoy yourself, and will be simply wasting your time and money.

 

Strawberry, thanks for taking the time to respond. You sound quite knowledgeable, and am sure that you take good care of not only yourself, but your clients. The text below therefore, is not aimed at you. Here goes ..

 

Never being one to let my dick do the thinking for me (I have nothing but contempt for men who do), I have decided that if I were ever to "punt", it would only consist of a handjob and/or PROTECTED oral.

 

I have too much going on in my life (loving wife, business finally doing well - getting first international contract, life goals etc, respect from my employees) to risk it all for an hour or so "tumble in the hay". Punting as described by practitioners in the know sounds like a variant of "bug hunting/catching" (applied to heterosexuals) to me. The "maximum reward" of discrete, mind blowing sex with no emotional encumbrances - though appealing, does not justify taking on the risks of contracting a potentially life threatening STI. So it seems I'll simply have to jog on ..., as I am not willing to take on the associated risk(s) of coming in contact with some particularly nasty STD/STIs .

 

I am willing to spend relatively good money (up to £1k for an hour's service with a clean WG, but there is no way that I am exposing my self to all the infestations running about there - so we both miss out on what we want, me - the chance for "paid for" hot sex with a clean girl, and she, the chance to aim some extra money ;)

 

There is clearly a case to be made for legalizing prostitution, as a form of "quality control" could then be established, to ease the mind of punters who have something going on in their life and are simply looking to release some tension, without "risking it all". The way things stand at the moment, an infected girl can (for whatever reason), continue to work, whilst passing herself off as clean, and punters would simply have to take her word for it. The risks as they stand are simply unacceptable to me.

 

Currently, the local slut/nutjob (pun unintended) can set her self up as a WG and claim to be disease free and start "plying her trade" with impunity; I for one, do not want to be one of the punters lining up for this game of "Russian roulette".

 

I hear that in Nevada, las Vegas, the WGs are first tested and then "quarantined" for a week or so while they provide services to punters who have to pass a basic STI check. In the event of a punter catching a disease, he has the legal right to sue the establishment/brothel. Now that is something I can really go for, because at least, you know that the service you are paying for has been "quality tested".  

 

Unfortunately, my travels don't often take me to the America, and even when in America, I am more often in the East Coast. I will make a thread in due course asking if there are similar facilities closer to home (i.e. in Europe)

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Strawberry, thanks for taking the time to respond. You sound quite knowledgeable, and am sure that you take good care of not only yourself, but your clients. The text below therefore, is not aimed at you. Here goes ..

 

Never being one to let my dick do the thinking for me (I have nothing but contempt for men who do), I have decided that if I were ever to "punt", it would only consist of a handjob and/or PROTECTED oral.

 

I have too much going on in my life (loving wife, business finally doing well - getting first international contract, life goals etc, respect from my employees) to risk it all for an hour or so "tumble in the hay". Punting as described by practitioners in the know sounds like a variant of "bug hunting/catching" (applied to heterosexuals) to me. The "maximum reward" of discrete, mind blowing sex with no emotional encumbrances - though appealing, does not justify taking on the risks of contracting a potentially life threatening STI. So it seems I'll simply have to jog on ..., as I am not willing to take on the associated risk(s) of coming in contact with some particularly nasty STD/STIs .

 

I am willing to spend relatively good money (up to £1k for an hour's service with a clean WG, but there is no way that I am exposing my self to all the infestations running about there - so we both miss out on what we want, me - the chance for "paid for" hot sex with a clean girl, and she, the chance to aim some extra money ;)

 

There is clearly a case to be made for legalizing prostitution, as a form of "quality control" could then be established, to ease the mind of punters who have something going on in their life and are simply looking to release some tension, without "risking it all". The way things stand at the moment, an infected girl can (for whatever reason), continue to work, whilst passing herself off as clean, and punters would simply have to take her word for it. The risks as they stand are simply unacceptable to me.

 

Currently, the local slut/nutjob (pun unintended) can set her self up as a WG and claim to be disease free and start "plying her trade" with impunity; I for one, do not want to be one of the punters lining up for this game of "Russian roulette".

 

I hear that in Nevada, las Vegas, the WGs are first tested and then "quarantined" for a week or so while they provide services to punters who have to pass a basic STI check. In the event of a punter catching a disease, he has the legal right to sue the establishment/brothel. Now that is something I can really go for, because at least, you know that the service you are paying for has been "quality tested".  

 

Unfortunately, my travels don't often take me to the America, and even when in America, I am more often in the East Coast. I will make a thread in due course asking if there are similar facilities closer to home (i.e. in Europe)

You start this thread about how you decided you wanted to see a wg for your unfulfilled fantasies etc(that could be construed as thinking with your dick)Then go on to about disease ridden wg's.Then you start with the "if you were to ever punt".That phrasing generally lends itself to never having had the intention to do so.Then we have bug chasing blah blah blah,then look how much i'm willing to spend on something i've never had any intention of doing,and add a little sanctimonious claptrap.I am so looking forward to your next post

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There is so much lol in this thread

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I suggest you demand the poor lass who u book to

1. Wash her mouth out with Domestos

2. Wash thoroughly with a Dettol shower

3. You wear a full diving suit with a little hole for your manhood to poke thru

4. Use a whole pack of 3 , just to be on the safe side

5. Or you can just flog yer own log

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There is clearly a case to be made for legalizing prostitution, as a form of "quality control" could then be established,

Prostitution is legal in the UK. It is just not regulated. In USA it is scary, Nevada included IMHO. Regulations may or may not help - look at NHS and Social work and some court cases. I think it needs to be a bit more liberalised here, but it is more right than wrong.

Sorry if my link scared you. Trying to be helpful, not biased.

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everything we do in life carries a risk.  Even if we stay in bed there is a risk of pressure sores.

 

People do dangerous things for kicks from playing sport, like cricket, football and rugby, to rock climbing and parachuting to some really dangerous stuff like cave diving or base jumping.

 

They know the risks and decide if the kick they get from the activity is worth the possible injury or even death.

 

I reckon the biggest risk from punting is driving to and from the punt, cos driving is quite a high risk activity. Yes there is a risk of STI but I reckon OWO  and RO is worth the risk but BB isn't. Other people may take a different view. That is their prerogative.

You can reduce the problem of STI by having a regular check at the GUM clinic, something everyone should do unless they are with a partner and neither strays, and you are 100% sure about that.

 

If you consider any body to body contact e.g kissing.is too risky then perhaps you need to take up crochet instead.  For if you spend you punts wondering what you are catching then it will be crap.

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I avoid the risk of a driving accident by taking the Tube. Unfortunately I smell like a rat afterwards, but a shower takes care of that.

In turn falling over in the shower is probably more dangerous than the punt itself.

 

Would agree about eating a WG out, or any woman for that matter. You don't know where it's been or been in it, and you don't know what's going on there.

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Im thinking about regular testing but can be a bit embarrising at the clinic as they as k questions about your sex life.

 

Do you say that you see working girl or like me make a story?

 

I sometimes have group sex and this involves owo and so the lady is going around giving owo to us group of men.

If one guy is infected with a std that is just beginning this could infect others?

 

So I think maybe its wise to get checked?

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