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Aw: Rebuffed Because Of No Feedback

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I've been a member since 2006. Used it infrequently (preferring indy websites and agencies) and when I have made a booking there, have done so largely by email/ phone. (The booking system being pretty inadequate in most circs. imo) 

 

Today, I was dismissed as a TW. Outrageous!  :)

 

I'm not quite sure what an escort can see of the punter's history? but mine should at least indicate that I've had two confirmed bookings. (I think?)

 

I can't complain - as I don't see review-less escorts - yet is this common? 

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Quite a few ladies do choose to only see AW members with a certain amount of feedback, misguided or not this is their choice and I've actually provided the odd reference for clients who have been caught in the same trap you are. I suggest you simply find a lady who is happy to accept your booking.

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Quite a few ladies do choose to only see AW members with a certain amount of feedback, misguided or not this is their choice and I've actually provided the odd reference for clients who have been caught in the same trap you are. I suggest you simply find a lady who is happy to accept your booking.

 

Aye. Thanks, Strawberry. If you had an exceedingly good memory, I dare say that I could call upon you for a reference. :)

 

The escort today was commendably upfront about it. 

 

It occurs to me that I was probably dismissed for the same reason some months ago; only on that occasion the escort (with a v. good reputation) gave every  indication that she was willing to see me and bailed at the last without explanation or word. :lol:

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Being fairly new at this I also have very low feedback.

 

On one hand I wish to have more feedback so I dont get the same problem as Dudley.

 

But on the other I dont want to be seen as a "jack the lad" type either.

 

Caught in betwen the two ways of thinking at the moment.

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I think women that rely solely on AW or only accept a very few bookings do get into the mindset of only seeing men with feedback. I used to do this when I escorted occasionally around my full time job. Once I went full time and got a website and added to directories I realised that if I wanted to make a living I couldn't expect everyone to to have an AW profile let alone a string of feedback.

 

I realise now I probably turned down perfectly nice men back in the day, but it wasn't an issue because it wasn't my main source of income. I rarely take AW bookings using their system now now, even if men find me via there and call me I don't ask for their profile name to check them out because I judge potential clients on how they communicate with with.

 

No help to you, but just a bit of background. There are loads of great escorts out there so I suggest you look for someone else! 

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Quite a few ladies do choose to only see AW members with a certain amount of feedback, misguided or not this is their choice and I've actually provided the odd reference for clients who have been caught in the same trap you are. I suggest you simply find a lady who is happy to accept your booking.

Try to book an established reliable escort with a good reputation. There are many ladies on here who fall into that category.

My first three punts were booked before I had even heard of AW. The third lady that I visited told me about AW and Pnet. She very kindly left a very favourable feedback on me on AW. She also told me that if any lady that I wanted to make a booking with was uncertain to ask them to contact her and she would vouch for me. Not surprisingly I saw her again within a few weeks and doubled my favourable feedback. I'm sure that this made arranging my next punt much easier because (1). I had two favourable feedbacks. and. (2). The feedbacks were from a respected established escort.

So I very quickly received three favourable feedbacks and then four etc etc. Established escorts with plenty of good feedback and then it reflects well on you. All I can say is that it worked for me.

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Thanks Gibbs,

 

That makes sense to me.

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I've been a member since 2006. Used it infrequently (preferring indy websites and agencies) and when I have made a booking there, have done so largely by email/ phone. (The booking system being pretty inadequate in most circs. imo) 

 

Today, I was dismissed as a TW. Outrageous!  :)

 

I'm not quite sure what an escort can see of the punter's history? but mine should at least indicate that I've had two confirmed bookings. (I think?)

 

I can't complain - as I don't see review-less escorts - yet is this common? 

I think you have every right to complain if you tried to make a booking in good faith and were rejected for no good reason. Please name the escort - she sounds like the time-waster to me.

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I think you have every right to complain if you tried to make a booking in good faith and were rejected for no good reason. Please name the escort - she sounds like the time-waster to me.

So with no real details you've come to the conclusion he should name and shame?He is intimating the reason could be his lack of FB which if is the case is up to the lady and fair enough if thats how she decides who to see(which isnt that rare),and seeing as they themselves won't see anyone with zero FB isnt really in much of a position to complain.Also,oddly enough in punting theres no right to service,you can be refused at any time for any reason.We don;t know the message sent,how it was put,anything.

This isnt a knock at Dudley,who seemed to take it lightly and was merely asking a question.

 

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Most girls I know have their phone number published so all we have to go on is what the guy sounds like on the phone, I have had many successful bookings with guys who have approached me via aw with no feedback, equally I have had guys with lots of positive feedback contact me on aw and sound like a total knob and they have been rebuffed.

Did she specifically say she was not doing the booking due to lack of feedback?

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Did she specifically say she was not doing the booking due to lack of feedback?

 

 

Yep: ' oh yes to someone who has zero feedback since 2006.'

 

I suspect the one a few months back,  thinking me suspicious / a TW, played with me. Agreed to meet and then failed to provide address details at the last. On reflection, the very perfunctory nature of her replies to my emails should have been a hint that she was (probably) up to mischief.

 

(I've just, very painlessly, organised a meet today and will leave feedback/ ask for a feedback.)

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Yep: ' oh yes to someone who has zero feedback since 2006.'

 

I suspect the one a few months back,  thinking me suspicious / a TW, played with me. Agreed to meet and then failed to provide address details at the last. On reflection, the very perfunctory nature of her replies to my emails should have been a hint that she was (probably) up to mischief.

 

(I've just, very painlessly, organised a meet today and will leave feedback/ ask for a feedback.)

Hmm well that just sounds quite rude what she said.Anyway glad you have arranged a meeting without problems and glad to hear tou are going to get some feedback but quite honestly feedback for the guys is not the be all and end all most lasses just go on how you approach them so its only the odd lass that will have a bee in her bonnet about it.

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As someone in the same boat, (prefering indies/agencies and direct bookings via AW) I'd say to those who don't want to see people with low/no AW feedback, that's fine, just put a few words to that effect in your profile and I for one will happily pass on by with no hard feelings if I don't meet your requirements. :)

 

But I will say this:

I suspect the one a few months back,  thinking me suspicious / a TW, played with me. Agreed to meet and then failed to provide address details at the last. On reflection, the very perfunctory nature of her replies to my emails should have been a hint that she was (probably) up to mischief.

 

 

Having fallen victim to this one myself I have to say this is probably the most annoying thing I've encountered so far during my travels through this little world of ours, in my case I arranged (and at her request booked through AW) the meeting earlier in the week for 5pm on the Friday afternoon, text her at 10am Friday morning to confirm and get address, got the response that we were on and she'd call me at lunchtime. Well, 12 came and went, followed by 1 and then 2pm, I called half a dozen times between 2 and 3 (the 3pm being the last train I could have taken to get her general area [read: postal district] in good time) only to be dropped straight to voicemail every time, sent a text cancelling the meeting as the train pulled out the station and started walking home (just up the road from the station) within 5 minutes got a snotty response accusing me of being a timewaster.

 

To add insult to injury the following Monday while I was at work the negative feedback appeared on AW, I disputed that and blacklisted the individual concerned when I got home but can't help feeling my card's been marked in some way.

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Seems completely reasonable to me for SPs to vet potential punters by feedback - punters do it after all and those with no fb get some stick on this board in that people say they won't book with them or advise only to go with those with plentiful positive fb.

 

But i don't get the idea that a punter with fb is in any way a jack the lad - I think the OP is worrying unnecessarily about that.

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I think no feedback for seven years is possibly the problem here. I have seen girls state in their profiles that they wont see clients with no feedback if the client has been a member for a number of years. 

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I've been a member since 2006. Used it infrequently (preferring indy websites and agencies) and when I have made a booking there, have done so largely by email/ phone. (The booking system being pretty inadequate in most circs. imo) 

 

Today, I was dismissed as a TW. Outrageous!  :)

 

I'm not quite sure what an escort can see of the punter's history? but mine should at least indicate that I've had two confirmed bookings. (I think?)

 

I can't complain - as I don't see review-less escorts - yet is this common? 

Booking confirmations do not show on profiles - only feedback so if the ladies you booked didn't give you feedback, there'll be nothing indicating anything happened. If however you left feedback for the lady, then that is findable but only by looking at her feedback history.

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Booking confirmations do not show on profiles - only feedback so if the ladies you booked didn't give you feedback, there'll be nothing indicating anything happened. If however you left feedback for the lady, then that is findable but only by looking at her feedback history.

 

Thanks.

 

A peculiar update to all this: I saw an escort this afternoon and at the end of the appointment asked, 'could you leave me some feedback, if I leave you some feedback?' etc etc ' Yeah, no problem' 

 

Got home 1.5hrs later and she has disappeared.... Profile deleted. :lol:

 

Either

 

a) a couple of hours with me has put her off escorting for life

 

B) She was inexperienced. A handful of good reviews. The sort of profile/ reputation that can be erased without too great  a loss....and I fear she thought I was going to give her a very bad review .  (She struggled to find and then put a condom on. She was late. She was flustered. She volunteered that the surroundings were a little grim. There was a caller to the door mid-meet. I came only after masturbation. etc etc)

 

A shame. I would have left grand feedback. She was sweet, intelligent, and strikingly attractive.

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I think you have every right to complain if you tried to make a booking in good faith and were rejected for no good reason. Please name the escort - she sounds like the time-waster to me.

 

With all due respect Bob you would you book an escort with no feedback?  i doubt it! Just as you as a client has rights and priviledges so do we as escorts.  With the amount of timewasters and dangerous clients making the rounds we have to be on guard not only with our own safety but also our time and money.

 

Asking for a woman to be named and shamed just because she prefers to err on the safe side by seeing clients with feedback, shows a lack of maturity and especially in suggesting that she is a timewaster just because she has rules.

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To be fair though when we all joined adultwork we all started with no feedback. I'm glad someone took a chance on me 2 years ago or I'd still have no feedback and no clients from there lol!There also exists a type of punter who won;t see ladies with lots of feedback..because they think we are more likely to be disease ridden..go figure!

Feedback is a tricky one, yes it can give an indication that someone is alright to see but also some people embellish the truth a little on feedback in some cases as they are afraid of getting negative back.

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It is up to the person running the business who they see, plenty of businesses especially those of a more personable nature do refuse to take on clients for whatever  reason they see fit.

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This fascination with feedbacks seems to be specially intense in Britain. My impression on checking out jobs in the UK is that the formal qualifications are of less importance compared to the references than in several other countries. (I've applied for jobs in four countries and worked in two.) Anyhow, the picture is quite funny. If nobody lacking feedback/reviews are accepted, neither WGs nor punters, eventually the British scene will consist of WGs of ninety serving punters of ninetyfive.

Recently I had to get a new barber. I went around to several – some of them highly recommended. And those definitely didn't match my qualification demands. (Yes, I'm too demanding.) Anyhow, the first I tried was experienced, but the result didn't really meet my expectations. When the need came again I stumbled over an other who did a fantastic job. Who was it? A young girl, not quite qualified yet, but she know how to handle her scissors. Had I thought about feedback, she wouldn't had stand a chance, but I looked for scill and the right attitude, which she had. (And, yes, lots of punters would be drooling on seeing her. She's beautiful, but that's not why I'll be coming back.)

Naturally one must have some caution. Extensive private galleries for sale and very little information on services && is for me a warning light, but demanding feedback? Well, a lot of good customers and WGs will never meet. Is it worth it?

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I'd have no problem seeing someone with little or no feedback. i'd go on their profile, pictures, and how they responded to my enquiry.

I'd probably avoid someone with no feedback and only a private gallery, especially if an expensive one, and hidden feedback is a definite no go for me.

Other than that I wouldn't be too bothered.

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I wouldnt let it bother you to much...you arn't the first and will definitely not be the last...if it's any consolation, it's happened to me too :P lol

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There is also the faint possibility that AW deleted her profile.  I've known them do this to other ladies ... expensive featured and what have you advertising all paid for, loads of credit amassed from pic and clip sales, then their profile gets deleted with no explanation except a vague - you violated our rules - response to a frantic query.

 

Then again, if English is only her second language, she may not have been able to read from the conversation you had about feedback that you were looking forward to feedback too.   Strange if she'd think a guy would leave bad feedback for those reasons.  As to someone ringing on her door, this is why I refuse to give men the address when they ask.  Many will turn up early and think nothing of turning up and ringing the door-bell, thinking the whole world revolves around them.

 

Thanks.

 

A peculiar update to all this: I saw an escort this afternoon and at the end of the appointment asked, 'could you leave me some feedback, if I leave you some feedback?' etc etc ' Yeah, no problem' 

 

Got home 1.5hrs later and she has disappeared.... Profile deleted. :lol:

 

Either

 

a) a couple of hours with me has put her off escorting for life

 

:cool: She was inexperienced. A handful of good reviews. The sort of profile/ reputation that can be erased without too great  a loss....and I fear she thought I was going to give her a very bad review .  (She struggled to find and then put a condom on. She was late. She was flustered. She volunteered that the surroundings were a little grim. There was a caller to the door mid-meet. I came only after masturbation. etc etc)

 

A shame. I would have left grand feedback. She was sweet, intelligent, and strikingly attractive.

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I had someone from AW with nought feedback send me a pm asking if I'd go dogging with him.  It was a polite enquiry, but remember, Hannibal Lecter had impeccable manners.  It doesn't matter how well written the email enquiry is.

 

I wrote back that even if I were up for that kind of meet, it wouldn't be with someone with zero feedback.  Was he for real?  Thinking I'd sit alone with him in some dark forest with no inkling about his feedback.  It's the same with outcall bookings that want me to come to their home.  With zero feedback, not a chance.

 

Same thing if I get a threesome MFM inquiry.  First think I look for is the feedback score.  The more risk a meeting with you puts me at, the more I need to see a handful of feedback scores spreading back over a while, not hastily gathered for web cam and phone sex bookings in the previous week.

 

Some guys avoid feedback with ladies advertising bareback knowing that it's the one thing that would give away their dangerous practice and get them turned away for services like OWO from non-bareback ladies that offer OWO.

 

xxx

 

Pru

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