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Hi

 

I am planning a first trip to Bangkok, (and CM and Koh Samui) for next month and looking at the "nightlife"!

 

Firstly I have read the threads on here and researched online and know about the go-go bars at Nana Plaza/Patong etc and the massage parlours like Dr BJ and Annies.  

 

However Dr BJ charge 700bahts for short time...how long is that and is it just a BJ?  Do any of these parlours allow 15-30min for less money?

 

Also my friend who is joining me later on is looking for something abit more upmarket, disease free and non seedy/overwhelming (but in budget), is a particular go-go bar or area best?  He is still a virgin so looking to lose it but doesnt wana bring anyone back to the hotel...

 

Also on the 1 night i am alone...would it look odd if i went to one of these sex bars, i am 28yrs old.  Also generally can anyone recommend any bars/clubs with good music (with girls/no girls) that would welcome someone on their own?

 

Finally i dont think i find Thai girls that attractive (too skinny), is there anywhere with british/eu girls or MILF type Thais (e.g. 30-50 busty)?

 

sorry for so many questions just not sure how to ask anyone else and still planning the trip and nervous about this thing!

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Hi

 

I am planning a first trip to Bangkok, (and CM and Koh Samui) for next month and looking at the "nightlife"! There is little to no nightlife (mongering) in Chiang Mai - it is a very cool place though

 

Firstly I have read the threads on here and researched online and know about the go-go bars at Nana Plaza/Patong etc and the massage parlours like Dr BJ and Annies.  You missed Soi Cowboy of this list in BKK, by far the best of the "entertainment" areas currently in Bangkok

 

However Dr BJ charge 700bahts for short time...how long is that and is it just a BJ?  Do any of these parlours allow 15-30min for less money? You can usually shag a girl in a BJ bar, but need to pay extra (approx 3-400 extra). Short time is really until you come - and one pop only - max 1 hour.

 

Also my friend who is joining me later on is looking for something abit more upmarket, disease free and non seedy/overwhelming (but in budget), is a particular go-go bar or area best?  He is still a virgin so looking to lose it but doesnt wana bring anyone back to the hotel...there are loads  Poseidon Entertainment Complex is a good place where you can shag Asian Penthouse models - choose from a catelogue - expensive but value approx 5000-7000 for around 90 mins) - do the business on site in their luxury bedrooms. 

 

 

Also on the 1 night i am alone...would it look odd if i went to one of these sex bars, i am 28yrs old.  Also generally can anyone recommend any bars/clubs with good music (with girls/no girls) that would welcome someone on their own? Soi Cowboy - and dont worry about going anywhere on your own!

 

Finally i dont think i find Thai girls that attractive (too skinny), is there anywhere with british/eu girls or MILF type Thais (e.g. 30-50 busty)? Why go mongering in a country you dont fancy the girls in - plain dumb..... that said just do the leg work around BKK and you can find just about anything (with and without nuts)

 

sorry for so many questions just not sure how to ask anyone else and still planning the trip and nervous about this thing!

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I can understand ur worries bcoz I was like you myself once :lol: I am actually in Bangkok right now :ph34r:

 

Firstly, forget about those BJ places and just concentrate on the go-go bars. There are 2 areas a walkable distance from each other, Nana Plaza in Soi 4 Sukhumvit Road and Soi Cowboy up Sukhumvit Road near a big intersection called Asok. There are tons of bars, just be warned that a few do not have real girls in them (ladyboys). In Nana Plaza in the ground floor bars, you may even find ladyboys mixed in with real girls. Going into these bars alone is perfectly acceptable, most guys you see are alone rather than with groups of buddies. All bars have DJs playing music, you are free to just sit and drink a beer then leave and go another bar. It is also perfectly acceptable to go into a bar, look around, then bail if u dont like it. If u let us know what kinda of music you like I might be able to make a suggestion but it tends to be current western pop hits not obscure stuff. Some bars play classic rock from the 70s and 80s. Four Star bar in Soi Cowboy as an a g0-g0 with a live oldies rock band, Beatles and Clarence Clearwater kinda stuff. NEar the entrance to Soi Cowboy is Country Road which has a live band but is not a go-g0

 

If ur buddy is scared of catching something, just tell him to make sure he has a condom on him. A more likely way of catching an STD is from a blow job, tell him to use the condom for that too. At both bar areas, there are ST hotels which the girls will take you too, it wil add another 300 or 400 to the overall price (600 barfine to the bar and 2000 you give to the girl).

 

It won't take long to get used to things. Be careful about buying lady drinks in the bars, at 150+ they can soon add up. Take your time and if you see a girl you like, just tell a waitress you want to talk to her. I don't know where u got the idea that Thai girls r to skinny. IN the go-go bars u will find all sorts of body types including silicon noms

 

There are cheaper options, you can find streetwalkers all over Sukhumvit for 1000 but in your first trip I would not recommend

 

Some of the other guys here are real Thailand afficianados and b able 2 add details I have 4gotten  2 mention.

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nervousnewbie

 

Don't b nervous man. U r not entering a war zone :D

 

When you know the exact d8s u will b in town, u should make a post here. There are always 1 or 2 veteran Thailand hands in town at any time who I am sure would be happy to show you round for a nite.

 

Find a hotel in the Sukhumvit soi 1-15 area - there are plenty

 

Last night woz a typical nite for me. Nothing much goze down b4 about 7:30 PM so u can spend the daytime siteseeing, shopping etc. If u r into exercise, Lumpini Park is gr8 for jogging and has a 2.54 km course. There is also a new indoor gym, havent tried it yet, but I think u can just pay 4 a single session. So I went to Lumpini around 5:00 and ran 2 laps, a lot of other runners to spur u on. At 6:00 PM the national anthem plays and u r expected to stop in ur trax like the locals, so finish ur run b4 6:00 if u r doing a time trial.

 

Back to hotel in Sukhumvit Soi 3 for shower n brush up, dont forget the cologne, Thai girls especially like guys who smell nice. Had evening chow near Nana and went to Mercury bar on Nana level 2 (just on the right after the escalator). Its a friendly medium-sized cheap bar with a happy hour till 8:30, all standard drinx only 75 baht (average in other bars is about 145). One girl hit on me as I sat there quietly alone, probably bcoz I was one of the only customers there so early. She wasnt my type, I wasnt rude to her but made out I couldnt speak English well bcoz I was from Slovenia so she gave up and hit on the guy next to me. After 3 beers there I went to Mandarin which has 2 bars, one next to Mercury which looked shite so I walked in and st8 out and upstairz to the other Mandarin. Used to b really good but not so much these days, one set of girls dance topless, had one beer and was on my way to Billboard also on the top (3rd) floor when a girl who knew me called me into this tiny bar called Straps to introduce me to her friend who had only been working there 3 days and spoke no word of English. I bought her friend 2 lady drinks and held her hand and put my arm round her, the response and vibes were favorable so I paid 600 barfine to the bar but also the 2000 for the girl in advance, this is unusual but I suspect might be to dissuade a hot new girl from leaving after just one nite which is not uncommon. It is about a 10 minute walk to my hotel and a pain in the baht trying to get there by taxi bcoz of the one-way system as well as rip-off drivers who try it on bcoz u r with a girl, so walked her there through the middle-eastern market, quite fascin8ng place really but she had these stupid stilleto heels on which kept getting caught in the gaps between uneven paving stones so virtually carried her back. It was a lovely session, she was fresh and firm flesh and very affection8. Probably spent a total of one hour there then took her back by taxi to Nana Plaza and said goodbye outside her bar, no tip necessary. I then visited some other bars to chill, still quite early so walked to Soi Cowboy (about 15-20 minutes) and bought a drink at Suzie Wong for a completely naked girl who had just got off stage from a lesbian show they do there.

 

It was 12:30 when I left and if I had had the energy, woulda gone to the Climax disco in the basement of the Ambassador Hotel which is down Soi 11 roughly halfway beween Soi Cowboy and Nana. The go-go bars close around 2:00 AM, but discos stay open l8r and Climax have a very good live band which plays sets in turn with the house DJ.

 

Walking back l8 down Sukhumvit Road is fun, there is no danger and a lot of girls and ladyboys of the night plying their wares, not just Thai but middle-eastern and also African. I wouldn't recommend them to a newbie, they could rob u while u r in the shower or asleep, whereas the go-go girls can be traced. The only thing you really need be to conscious of is your wallet because some of these girls (more often the ladyboys) may also be pickpockets.

 

You can't fail to have a gr8 time. I'm a bit worried about ur virgin buddy tho, I would advise him to buy some Kamagra (generic Viagra) at a pharmacy, I think costs about 300 for 4 tabs. That way he should get off to a winning start. He'll be better off with an older experienced dirty woman of which there are plenty.

 

You may get conflicting advice from other board members, which is fine. Just don't waste money on an escort service :lol:

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 I then visited some other bars to chill, still quite early so walked to Soi Cowboy (about 15-20 minutes) and bought a drink at Suzie Wong for a completely naked girl who had just got off stage from a lesbian show they do there.

 

 

I found the best looking girls in Soi Cowboy at Baccara , followed by Suzie Wong and then next door to it Spice Girls.. .

At Spice Girls there was a room upstairs for ST at 400 BHT   extra . .

 

Chiang Mai's nightlife  is little compared to Bangkok ,but i found the girls much prettier than Bk girls . 

CM is a nice place to relax and unwind after  a spell in Bangkok . 

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I found the best looking girls in Soi Cowboy at Baccara , followed by Suzie Wong and then next door to it Spice Girls.. .

At Spice Girls there was a room upstairs for ST at 400 BHT   extra . .

 

Chiang Mai's nightlife  is little compared to Bangkok ,but i found the girls much prettier than Bk girls . 

CM is a nice place to relax and unwind after  a spell in Bangkok . 

Baccara is best bar in Cowboy but more xpensive - 2500/3000 for ST but worth it if u dont have time to spend all nite searching 4 sumthing cheaper elsewhere

 

This trip I have found Cowboy to b awful, even the coyote dancers. Woz in Susie Wong tonite but place dead. Best bar tonite 4 me woz Fantasia in Nana but it depends on what type of girl you are after. I took a nite off as it so happened

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Baccara is best bar in Cowboy but more xpensive - 2500/3000 for ST but worth it if u dont have time to spend all nite searching 4 sumthing cheaper elsewhere

 

This trip I have found Cowboy to b awful, even the coyote dancers. Woz in Susie Wong tonite but place dead. Best bar tonite 4 me woz Fantasia in Nana but it depends on what type of girl you are after. I took a nite off as it so happened

Is it really worth going this time of the year for mongering? I'm guessing it might be cheaper, but if its dead and not many girls...is there much point?

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Is it really worth going this time of the year for mongering? I'm guessing it might be cheaper, but if its dead and not many girls...is there much point?

That's a good point. This is low season and start of rainy season. Less customers means more girls to choose from, but the quality is way down, I guess the popular ones take a break too. If mongering was my sole purpose in coming here, It has not been a roaring success. However, it still beats having 2 work 4 a living :D

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Yap, n e 1 planning a trip to Thailand from Europe or even further afield should consider the time of year they go :cool:

 

For myself, I dont care too much when I come and this time is only a 5 niter. June is probably the worst month, rain and humidity and the nightlife very subdued. December and January are the most popular months but I find it gets too crowded then. My favorite period is end February thro April. This coincides with the long school/college holidays so u can find a lot of fresh talent in the bars.

 

On the plus side, there is always something to do in BKK aside from mongering. Excellent reasonably priced international cuisine if you know where to find it.

 

My favorite place in Thailand if not the whole world is here  http://www.tawandang.co.th/

 

It's a German style beer hall with the beer brewed on the premises, seats about 2000, I've mentioned it in other threads here but it deserves another mention. Continuous live entertainment from 7 PM. A reservation is recommended at weekends, if u r alone there is usually space on the bar counter at the back. A gr8 place to take ur ST or LT b4 or after. For lovers of German beer, its excellent and so is the Thai and German chow. Best way to get there is BTS to Asok then hop on a taxi, about 75 baht to Rama 3 depending on traffic. It has another branch but miles outta town.

 

I may try Saphan Kwai 2nite, the Thai a g0-g0 area. Soi Cowboy and Nana have been pretty awful and my buddy woz in Patpong and told me to give that a miss too apart from the bar Electric Blue which has beer for 50 baht thro the whole of June cozza 10th anniversary.

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I may try Saphan Kwai 2nite, the Thai a g0-g0 area. Soi Cowboy and Nana have been pretty awful and my buddy woz in Patpong and told me to give that a miss too apart from the bar Electric Blue which has beer for 50 baht thro the whole of June cozza 10th anniversary.

 

You've done it again, Furyo - I had never heard of Saphan Kwai before.  But Stick has a four year-old description of it that is interesting, though I would rather pay more for my beer in a more salubrious atmosphere (and one where I would not be decades older than most of the local lads).  For others who are unfamiliar with the place, this link will add some dated info to that you have provided:

 

http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickmanBangkokWeeklyColumn2009/SaphanKwai.htm

Edited by Tiggy 7

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he women for the most part seem to be from the central region or the north and thus have a different look to the Isaan dominated girls in the farang scene.  The girls dancing in Saphan Kwai have lighter skin and a bit more meat on the bone.  That's not to say that they're fat because they're not, more that they have slightly more shapely bodies.

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Plus a whole night with drinks and ST+Hotel can be had for 2500 as per above link is worth the trip to that part of BKK . .

Thank you Furyo for another discovery . 

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Def on my list to do . Mr Kom my taxi driver will be my Interpretor& guard and  deal maker ..

Suk ,Nana ,soi cowboy getting too predictable .

Squat toilets at the bars won't be getting any piss from me as i have a strong bladder . . .

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More beauty in the details here ,albiet a bit dated as per Tiggy's link . "Whereas some bars in the farang areas feature almost entirely solo mothers - Cowboy's Apache Coyote comes to mind - I did not see one woman in all the bars we checked out who was obviously a mother.  How could I know?  Not one had the map of the world on her stomach.  Not one.  That's not to say that there were no mothers but - and this really is horrible to say and I feel guilty for saying it - but not one had the ugly stretch marks which seem to be rather common on Isaan mothers.  I would also suggest that the average age of the dancers was lower in Saphan Kwai than any of the major farang areas but that said, I did not see anyone who looked underage.

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Anyone here  tried the action in Chinatown ,BKK ???  I read   its another area  where very few westerners  around.

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Hi

 

I am planning a first trip to Bangkok, (and CM and Koh Samui) for next month and looking at the "nightlife"!

 

Firstly I have read the threads on here and researched online and know about the go-go bars at Nana Plaza/Patong etc and the massage parlours like Dr BJ and Annies.  

 

However Dr BJ charge 700bahts for short time...how long is that and is it just a BJ?  Do any of these parlours allow 15-30min for less money?

 

Also my friend who is joining me later on is looking for something abit more upmarket, disease free and non seedy/overwhelming (but in budget), is a particular go-go bar or area best?  He is still a virgin so looking to lose it but doesnt wana bring anyone back to the hotel...

 

Also on the 1 night i am alone...would it look odd if i went to one of these sex bars, i am 28yrs old.  Also generally can anyone recommend any bars/clubs with good music (with girls/no girls) that would welcome someone on their own?

 

Finally i dont think i find Thai girls that attractive (too skinny), is there anywhere with british/eu girls or MILF type Thais (e.g. 30-50 busty)?

 

sorry for so many questions just not sure how to ask anyone else and still planning the trip and nervous about this thing!

.Fielding's  Thailand travel guide might  makes  a good reading for a 1st timer to LOS . .

http://www.sexwork.com/Thailand/fieldings.html

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Anyone here  tried the action in Chinatown ,BKK ???  I read   its another area  where very few westerners  around.

Used to be ukiie but not n e more. Not worth the effort of going there and the Chinese chow is no better or cheaper than u can get all over town.

 

Its now a major tourist area for ... Chinese tourists :blink:

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he women for the most part seem to be from the central region or the north and thus have a different look to the Isaan dominated girls in the farang scene.  The girls dancing in Saphan Kwai have lighter skin and a bit more meat on the bone.  That's not to say that they're fat because they're not, more that they have slightly more shapely bodies.

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Plus a whole night with drinks and ST+Hotel can be had for 2500 as per above link is worth the trip to that part of BKK . .

Thank you Furyo for another discovery . 

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Def on my list to do . Mr Kom my taxi driver will be my Interpretor& guard and  deal maker ..

Suk ,Nana ,soi cowboy getting too predictable .

Squat toilets at the bars won't be getting any piss from me as i have a strong bladder . . .

 

And where will your two ABGs be while you are up to no good at Saphan Kwai? :P

 

(ABG = armed body guards)

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My favorite place in Thailand if not the whole world is here  http://www.tawandang.co.th/

 

 

I got taken to this place by some thai colleagues would never have found it again without asking them. I can totally recommend the pork knuckle washed down by some of their own brewed lager, fantastic place.

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I got taken to this place by some thai colleagues would never have found it again without asking them. I can totally recommend the pork knuckle washed down by some of their own brewed lager, fantastic place.

I was there last nite and the place was packed. The barstewards on the next table were tucking into the pork knuckle with relish, I cuda ordered the same but its a lot for one person and I was on my own :(

 

nervousnewbie

 

Hello buddy anybody home? While I have been in BKK throwing ping pong balls at naked girls on ur behalf, not a peep out of u my friend. Just wondered if u had changed ur mind about coming. I would still recommend Thailand to n e 1, even if it means selling ur home. Koh Samui incidentally has a small bar beer scene, don't expect quality but there r local ladies available if u r unable or uninterested in trying to pick up a European girl at the Reggae Pub or Green Mango (I assume they r still there). Samui is also unusual in that the weather is good during the UK summer while most of Thailand is getting rained on then.

 

Saphan Kwai still worth a visit, but not if u r a newbie. U need to speak Thai or b with someone who does. When Stickman went there, he had some preconceived ideas about the place which made him behave over-cautiously. Unlike the farang centred a g0-g0 districts, no 1 minds u taking fotos as long as they r not of girls dancing on stage. The other nice thing is that the Thai guys there do not seem to mind at all that the occasional farang is invading their territory. I usualy feel a bit sorry for them, they can afford to have a girl sit with them and pay for cheap beer and whisky and food, but I suspect most cannot afford the 1500 ST fee. U will also hear girls tell u that they would prefer to work at Cowboy or Nana if they could speak English. The interior of the SK bars are really shabby and rundown

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.Fielding's  Thailand travel guide might  makes  a good reading for a 1st timer to LOS . .

http://www.sexwork.com/Thailand/fieldings.html

And another couple of links I stumbled on after following the one above

 

livingthai.org Various readable and informative bits of free content scattered around here and there when you explore this site

Vimeo videos of degree level ass grinding - The sort of girls you might hope to see?

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@  Fury ,     thanks for posting on Saphan Kwai  , I hadn't heard of it either in over 20 years of visiting LOS .   I will have it on my list to have a look in next trip , thanks to you . I quite like some of these small bars such as one I found in Rayong when I was down there a few years back . But had the Boss travelling with me that time .

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Hi

 

I am planning a first trip to Bangkok, (and CM and Koh Samui) for next month and looking at the "nightlife"!

 

Firstly I have read the threads on here and researched online and know about the go-go bars at Nana Plaza/Patong etc and the massage parlours like Dr BJ and Annies.  

 

However Dr BJ charge 700bahts for short time...how long is that and is it just a BJ?  Do any of these parlours allow 15-30min for less money?

 

Also my friend who is joining me later on is looking for something abit more upmarket, disease free and non seedy/overwhelming (but in budget), is a particular go-go bar or area best?  He is still a virgin so looking to lose it but doesnt wana bring anyone back to the hotel...

 

Also on the 1 night i am alone...would it look odd if i went to one of these sex bars, i am 28yrs old.  Also generally can anyone recommend any bars/clubs with good music (with girls/no girls) that would welcome someone on their own?

 

Finally i dont think i find Thai girls that attractive (too skinny), is there anywhere with british/eu girls or MILF type Thais (e.g. 30-50 busty)?

 

sorry for so many questions just not sure how to ask anyone else and still planning the trip and nervous about this thing!

 

How long you going for? as others had said Koh Samui and CM are not so hot for mongering, but good If you want a few days to chill out, or somewhere to take a girl for a trip. Why are you going to Thailand If you don't find the ladies attractive? If you're still coming, have you considered staying In Pattaya?

 

Baccara is best bar in Cowboy but more xpensive - 2500/3000 for ST but worth it if u dont have time to spend all nite searching 4 sumthing cheaper elsewhere

 

This trip I have found Cowboy to b awful, even the coyote dancers. Woz in Susie Wong tonite but place dead. Best bar tonite 4 me woz Fantasia in Nana but it depends on what type of girl you are after. I took a nite off as it so happened

 

How much? I've heard Baccara has got expensive, I guess the Japanese customers are happy paying 3k ST, cheaper than Tokyo eh?

As we know the quality or lack of It changes very quickly, a bar that was jumping only a few months ago can be boring and crap when you return, so guys should take old recommendations with a pinch of salt.

 

Is it really worth going this time of the year for mongering? I'm guessing it might be cheaper, but if its dead and not many girls...is there much point?

 

LOS Is always worth visiting, unless the red shirts close the airport again.

 

Yap, n e 1 planning a trip to Thailand from Europe or even further afield should consider the time of year they go :cool:

 

For myself, I dont care too much when I come and this time is only a 5 niter. June is probably the worst month, rain and humidity and the nightlife very subdued. December and January are the most popular months but I find it gets too crowded then. My favorite period is end February thro April. This coincides with the long school/college holidays so u can find a lot of fresh talent in the bars.

 

On the plus side, there is always something to do in BKK aside from mongering. Excellent reasonably priced international cuisine if you know where to find it.

 

My favorite place in Thailand if not the whole world is here  http://www.tawandang.co.th/

 

It's a German style beer hall with the beer brewed on the premises, seats about 2000, I've mentioned it in other threads here but it deserves another mention. Continuous live entertainment from 7 PM. A reservation is recommended at weekends, if u r alone there is usually space on the bar counter at the back. A gr8 place to take ur ST or LT b4 or after. For lovers of German beer, its excellent and so is the Thai and German chow. Best way to get there is BTS to Asok then hop on a taxi, about 75 baht to Rama 3 depending on traffic. It has another branch but miles outta town.

 

I may try Saphan Kwai 2nite, the Thai a g0-g0 area. Soi Cowboy and Nana have been pretty awful and my buddy woz in Patpong and told me to give that a miss too apart from the bar Electric Blue which has beer for 50 baht thro the whole of June cozza 10th anniversary.

 

I've not visited SK myself, but heard some stories, as you say you need to know some Thai, probably not the best place for the OP to try.

 

It's rather dated - can you remember back to when Sterling was 75B and the Dollar was 40B? 

 

Oh those were the days, when a bottle of Chang was a quid, a hotel room was a fiver and a BF 6 quid. :P

 

And another couple of links I stumbled on after following the one above

 

livingthai.org Various readable and informative bits of free content scattered around here and there when you explore this site

Vimeo videos of degree level ass grinding - The sort of girls you might hope to see?

 

I wouldn't take much notice of livingthai, I clicked on It and the first thing I read was,

I’ve heard people say that Escort services in Bangkok are too expensive, that might be the case for the guys who prefer beer bar girls but when compared to Go Go girls I honestly believe that Escort services especially in Bangkok come on Top

 

Chris sounds clueless or owns a escort agency. :rolleyes:

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It's rather dated - can you remember back to when Sterling was 75B and the Dollar was 40B? 

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I remember (just checked it) i was getting about 25 BHT to the US$ in March 1988  first time i landed in BKK ..My first time with a Thai girl did cost me 800 BHT all night   .I was in my 20s  so i was up for all night sessions in those days ... I only had few tips about BKK from older guys who did R&R there in previous years . Stayed at Park Hotel soi 7 opposite the Beer Garden which was just a small garden bar.  There wasn't a Little Arabia in Soi 3&5then and  not that many western tourists either  .  

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So these days i am getting  a better rate around 30BHT to US$ or around 47BHT to the £ .

I missed out on £=75B and US$40B in 2006&2007 .  I was getting then nearly 240 Yen and about 120 to the £&$ in Japan..

Would jump on the first plane to Tokyo ,if the Yen takes another dive like in 06&07 .

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It's rather dated - can you remember back to when Sterling was 75B and the Dollar was 40B? 

It was at the  time when it was a  free fall for most of SEA currencies ,2006&2007.

Even the( Mighty P Peso) is now around 66 Pso to the £ . You could have got around 100P/£ back then .

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