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Guilty Of Not Leaving A Negative Review/feedback?

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How many guys here have had bad/less than satisfactory punts and not left feedback either on the site they booked or on a forum/ review site of some kind?

Also what's your idea of a bad punt? Personally, if I have no desire to return, then I would consider it a bad punt (since it's the good WGs that I have been back to two or three times more and the ones that weren't so good that I don't go back to).

I think to a large extent the feedback/reviews on the sites available are quite unreliable because punters do not leave negative feedback if they have a bad punt, only if they have a good punt, so you end up with WGs with 100% positive reviews/feedback, even though not 100% of the punters who have actually seen them (and then
not necessarily written a review) have had a positive experience.

I mean you could see a WG with 10 reviews - all positive, who has actually seen 40 punters, and 30 of them didn't enjoy their experience (but they didn't bother leaving a
negative review).

Of course, the review systems that are in place are definitely better than nothing, but they could be better.

 

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Not sure how you could improve this without making reviewing mandatory somehow....so not possible at all.

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I disagree it is a bad punt if one has no desire to return.  I like variety.  It is very easy for me to see a lady, enjoy the visit, feel others would enjoy the experience as well and recommend her, but still feel I have already exhausted as much of her repertoire as I am interested in during that one visit.  It takes an exceptional lady to make me believe a second visit would be as good as the first but different enough to be worth it.

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One thing I would say with regard to reviewing and objectivity -- and this affects the MK scene and boards on PN -- is that there are a number of board participants whose views I pay no attention to whatsoever because I know they have "outed themselves" to certain girls/parlours (and in some cases receive a frequent flyer discount for their troubles). Whether or not they retain their objectivity is between them and God (I am sure they would claim that they do), but in my view the minute you are personally known to a service provider, your reviews and opinions on specific girls are no longer credible. Harsh, maybe, but that's my standard. It's one reason the quality of so much of the MK boards (famed for their fluffiness and constant cheerleading) is so low.  To be honest, where reviews are concerned your point is a good one, but in the end all you can do is take what you read with a fairly healthy grain of salt.

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How many guys here have had bad/less than satisfactory punts and not left feedback either on the site they booked or on a forum/ review site of some kind?

Also what's your idea of a bad punt? Personally, if I have no desire to return, then I would consider it a bad punt (since it's the good WGs that I have been back to two or three times more and the ones that weren't so good that I don't go back to).

I think to a large extent the feedback/reviews on the sites available are quite unreliable because punters do not leave negative feedback if they have a bad punt, only if they have a good punt, so you end up with WGs with 100% positive reviews/feedback, even though not 100% of the punters who have actually seen them (and then

not necessarily written a review) have had a positive experience.

I mean you could see a WG with 10 reviews - all positive, who has actually seen 40 punters, and 30 of them didn't enjoy their experience (but they didn't bother leaving a

negative review).

Of course, the review systems that are in place are definitely better than nothing, but they could be better.

So does that mean if you arrived and the girl looked just like her pictures, was perfectly friendly and nice, offered all the services she advertised for the fee she advertised but in real life there was no click, no chemistry or she just didnt "do it for you" up close in person so you wouldnt return then you would class it as a bad punt and therefore worthy of a bad review or feedback if you were of a mind to leave it?

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I think people should do a review if they either had a bloody good time or a bloody awful time..sort of pointless if you had a nice time but the girl just wasn't your type ultimately and you prefer to go see other ladies. I had this recently someone left me a review saying they had a great time but big girls are not for them so they wouldn't return what a totally pointless review. That is not my fault if they don't actually bother reading about me and the fact I am a larger lady, I make no bones about this on my adverts!

I think on aw there is an element of not wanting to leave bad feedback in case you get it back but given that reviewers on most sites are supposedly anonymous I don't think on here anyway leaving bad feedback if its deserved is a problem.

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Just to add. I think there is more of a problem of some guys putting up reviews where they just write a one line..saying they had a good time but they don;t give details of any kind. A review should be objective and say what happened to some degree..it doesn't have to sound like the script of a porn flick but should tell other potential clients about the lady and her services.

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Guilty as charged. My motto is that if you can't say something good about someone then keep your mouth shut. So if I have a so-so experience I'll just not leave a review. On the other hand, I always leave feedback if I've had a good time. After a few poor experiences a while ago I now always look for recent feedback. If there is none then that's a worry. If there is no recent feedback then perhaps standards have slipped recently. Probably miss out on a load of excellent ladies that way but what can you do?

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@Bibi ... Just one liners , jesus , have you read your latest ... Got 30 mlns to spare ?

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So does that mean if you arrived and the girl looked just like her pictures, was perfectly friendly and nice, offered all the services she advertised for the fee she advertised but in real life there was no click, no chemistry or she just didnt "do it for you" up close in person so you wouldnt return then you would class it as a bad punt and therefore worthy of a bad review or feedback if you were of a mind to leave it?

Exactly this happened to me on only my 3rd punt, I was devastated, lol. Don't know what it was but there was just nothing there, and 'clicking' is a vital part of the punt for me. Due to circumstances, my confidence wasn't exactly high when I started punting, and that punt really knocked me back.

In all honesty I couldn't leave the girl bad feedback as I couldn't really think of anything she did wrong, well actually she wouldn't do owo which was on her profile 'at discretion', but I suppose that happens....part of the not really clicking maybe. I did make a comment on another forum about no owo, but I just put it down to us both having an off day and wasn't critical of her.

Thankfully it's the only negative experience I've had so far among some great times and got along nicely with all the other girls.

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@Bibi ... Just one liners , jesus , have you read your latest ... Got 30 mlns to spare ?

And your point is? It was a long booking. At least the guy actually wrote about what happened rather than....'saw Bibi..it was good...the end'..like some of the reports you do see. But anyway thanks for the free mention... :)

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How many guys here have had bad/less than satisfactory punts and not left feedback either on the site they booked or on a forum/ review site of some kind?

Also what's your idea of a bad punt? Personally, if I have no desire to return, then I would consider it a bad punt (since it's the good WGs that I have been back to two or three times more and the ones that weren't so good that I don't go back to).

I think to a large extent the feedback/reviews on the sites available are quite unreliable because punters do not leave negative feedback if they have a bad punt, only if they have a good punt, so you end up with WGs with 100% positive reviews/feedback, even though not 100% of the punters who have actually seen them (and then

not necessarily written a review) have had a positive experience.

I mean you could see a WG with 10 reviews - all positive, who has actually seen 40 punters, and 30 of them didn't enjoy their experience (but they didn't bother leaving a

negative review).

Of course, the review systems that are in place are definitely better than nothing, but they could be better.

 

I think you are rather overstating your case, certainly as far as the Field Reports on Punternet are concerned. I agree that the review system on Adultwank is open to abuse. If you look at the Field Report Statistics page on P'net you will see that approximately 10% of all FR's are "not recommended". That figure has been fairly constant for many years and I would be sorely worried if the figure were much greater than that. A 10% dissatisfaction rate is bad enough but in an area where guys are often led by their little brain into going ahead with a punt rather than walking on sight, I suggest that there is a certain inevitability about it.

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So does that mean if you arrived and the girl looked just like her pictures, was perfectly friendly and nice, offered all the services she advertised for the fee she advertised but in real life there was no click, no chemistry or she just didnt "do it for you" up close in person so you wouldnt return then you would class it as a bad punt and therefore worthy of a bad review or feedback if you were of a mind to leave it?

 

If there is no chemistry, but the WG in questions tries her best to make sure I have a good time, then I would possibly even think of that as a positive.

 

I think when it becomes a negative review is when I believe the WG has given me less than what I would expect.

 

For example, one WG i saw did all the things you listed above, she provided the services advertised, was nice and friendly etc, but during sex she would continuously move her hips to make it difficult to get a rhythm going - basically whenever it felt good she would move (possibly I was her last punter and she might have been sore?), also her oral technique was bad, and her kissing wasn't that good. The only good thing was the massage.

 

So she did all the things she advertised, but to my mind that's a terrible punt - the worse I've ever had. And I wouldn't recommend anyone go and see her.

 

And yet she has 8 pos feedback on AW and no neg. Is it possible I was the only punter who had a bad service from her? Or are punters who have had negative experiences not leaving a review (or worse, are they leaving a positive review?).

 

So unless a girl has like 40+ positive reviews, or a really good review on a forum, you really can't trust the reviews you see (esp on AW).

 

 

 

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Guilty as charged. My motto is that if you can't say something good about someone then keep your mouth shut. So if I have a so-so experience I'll just not leave a review. 

 

I'm of similar mind. As an experienced punter, this works better for me too.

 

A good review/FB is earned with some details about the experience and if a wow punt, extol her virtues even more so! Anyone reading it will know it is worth seeing the lady in question.

 

I've been fortunate to have some good punts, as it's also up to me to get the most out of the meeting and help the escort by telling her what I want and in some cases, the way to do it for me.

 

The average/non-click punts, don't get a review or FB. If she asks why, I'll let her know personally, not a million other people.

 

I do notice, when doing research for a punt, that some positive reports are laboured and are lack lustre, The poster would have been better off not writing one at all. Unless there is something extra from other posters, then I would not consider her.

 

Overall, feedback is one of the best guides for research, even negative ones. Conversely, a negative one wouldn't put me off as my spider senses would pick up on other aspects of her FB and profile, along with reference to other forums.

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It's the "inbetweeners" that cause me a problem, and this is why I do far fewer reviews than punts.

 

I tend only to do FRs or reviews if the lady is either exceptionally good, or is really bad.  By bad I mean she ripped me off, let me down or cynically failed to provide a previously agreed service.  Fortunately I have had few bad experiences like this.

 

I have had plenty of punts where it just didn't click for me, and I didn't particularly enjoy it and would never go back.  However if the lady was clean, punctual and clearly making some sort of an effort then I imagine that another punter could have a good time with her, and don't feel it's right to potentially affect her business with a negative review.

 

Likewise, there are some ladies who I have seen several times becuase they were particularly good at some particular service that I enjoy, but maybe are working from a shit-hole, aren't particularly welcoming when you first arrive, or have poor English.  In this case, they are giving me what I need but I could imagine other punters having a bad time.

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It's the "inbetweeners" that cause me a problem, and this is why I do far fewer reviews than punts.

 

I tend only to do FRs or reviews if the lady is either exceptionally good, or is really bad.  By bad I mean she ripped me off, let me down or cynically failed to provide a previously agreed service.  Fortunately I have had few bad experiences like this.

 

I have had plenty of punts where it just didn't click for me, and I didn't particularly enjoy it and would never go back.  However if the lady was clean, punctual and clearly making some sort of an effort then I imagine that another punter could have a good time with her, and don't feel it's right to potentially affect her business with a negative review.

 

Likewise, there are some ladies who I have seen several times becuase they were particularly good at some particular service that I enjoy, but maybe are working from a shit-hole, aren't particularly welcoming when you first arrive, or have poor English.  In this case, they are giving me what I need but I could imagine other punters having a bad time.

 

I agree completely, and especially with your final paragraph.  I might mention a gal in this category on one of the specialist threads on this board but I would not post a Punternet FR on her.  They usually were sourced on AW and I don't mind providing positive feedback on one there, especially if she depends on this as her sole source of new clients.

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Many punters are reluctant to leave negative feedback. Partly because they feel it is "ungentlemanly", partly because they can't be arsed and perhaps on AW because the girl might leave neg feedback in return.

 

Feedback, especially on AW, needs to be treated with a huge pinch of salt. Also the girl might give a good service to one punter, but then a crap service to the next guy, maybe because she's tired or just doesn't like him.

 

My pet hate with feedback/reviews is where the punter say "I won't go into details of what occured...". What use is that? We NEED the details to make a judgement about whether we want to punt with her.

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A couple of points. First, there is safety only in volume. If everybody wrote a short, honest impression of each punt they had without worrying about the ramifications of positive or negative comments...if you just say whether you enjoyed it or not and why...then the body of evidence built up about a girl would soon outweigh any individual review -- good or bad. Would any of us seriously be put off by a negative for girl with, say, 50 reviews, 45 good and 5 bad? On the contrary, we'd know that the general conclusion was likely to be a reliable one. But this can only be achieved if people are as willing to say "bad" as they are to say "good", and if they stopped writing dross (i.e. third rate porn novels starring themselves) and started dispassionately but quickly reviewing every time they saw a girl -- good or bad alike.

 

Secondly, does it occur to anyone that all reviews are self-reviews by and about the punter as well as about the girl? It's pretty easy to tell which guys are fantasists or jerks from what they write, and equally it's instructive to note which reviews you find yourself understanding and identifying with and, thus, trusting the author and which you don't. In the same way as point 1, above, a reviewer who writes many, objective reviews can be useful. You can see shared tastes and values emerge, which over time lend more and more credence to what that individual says. But in some cases you write off good reviews because it's clear the author doesn't have either the same standards or tastes that you hold as important.

 

I don't mind if people don't go into detail because detail is not what is required for a good review -- a fact that appears to be lost on all too many people. In fact, I don't want detail on how you did what you did and this is an under-identified problem on PN/on this board. People equate detail with florid description. I have no use for that. I want, from a review, a clear, full and accurate physical description  (tall or short, fat or thin, shaved or unshaved, big or small, etc.) I want to know what she offered/did (FS, OWO, CIM, WS, etc.). And I want to know if she was friendly/unfriendly and delivered in a way that was enjoyable/not enjoyable. And would you go back? And that's it. I couldn't care less if she nibbled your 14 inch cock smiling lewdly while you brought her to her 14th shuddering orgasm of the session.

 

The bottom line is that if a condition of registration on PN (yes, I know, impossible) was that we all reviewed every girl we saw and posted brief, objective reports that honestly related whether we personally found the experience good or bad then this board would be massively more useful than it is now. In reality, we're really discussing here how best not to be honest about something, and that is never really the ideal way to go.

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Guilty as charged. My motto is that if you can't say something good about someone then keep your mouth shut. So if I have a so-so experience I'll just not leave a review.

 

This is what I do also. In the cases where I've had a so-so experience at a Parlour, I've usually noticed the WG disappears from the rota soon after anyway.

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If you have a not so good experience and you don't review for what ever reason -  the guy who saw her before and did not review her either is responsible for your bad punt ( or your bad choice)  :)  - And the guy before him etc etc..

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If you have a not so good experience and you don't review for what ever reason -  the guy who saw her before and did not review her either is responsible for your bad punt ( or your bad choice)  :)  - And the guy before him etc etc..

 

I can see why an independent WG might take that view, since positive FRs are mother's milk to gaining new business, but punters also have their own reputations to protect (speaking as one who has requested that more than one of his own FRs be withdrawn later).  I have no problem lauding great service nor slating poor service but most punting experiences fall somewhere in between.  If one constantly posts bland 'reports' (and I probably average two punts per week), I really don't think anyone is well served, especially his fellow punters.

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If one constantly posts bland 'reports' (and I probably average two punts per week), I really don't think anyone is well served, especially his fellow punters.

 

Tiggy, see my post above because I don't want to be a dullard and repeat myself but I quite strongly disagree with this. What is of most interest to me is the factual stuff and if you post two "bland" reports a week that, nonetheless, tell me the girl was fat/thin, tall/short, friendly/unfriendly, clean/dirty, shaved/unshaved, engaged/disengaged but omit the other gory details on what you did and why you, personally, did or didn't get off on it then I for one would be quite happy. All I want, as one of your fellow punters, is a few facts. Give me those and I have enough to decide whether to book and I'll go along for myself to work out the rest. All of us have different personalities and most girls will react at least slightly differently for each client. The best we can hope from a report is a dispassionate recounting of the key details. Unless you describe yourself in each report in the same detail as you do the girls, there is nothing more we can glean.

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If you have a not so good experience and you don't review for what ever reason -  the guy who saw her before and did not review her either is responsible for your bad punt ( or your bad choice)  :)  - And the guy before him etc etc..

I certainly dont agree, the WG is 100% responsible for the service she offers at all times in my view.

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I've been very lucky since I've been punting with only one experience in 11 years when I felt, immediately afterwards, I should, warn others about. I was about to put, as 'twere, pen to paper when I noticed that the lady's website had disappeared. I waited a while and it didn't reappear. (It still hasn't!) so after a while I decided to forget about it.

My 'poor experience' rate is substantially less than 1% (and falling) so I think I'm getting most things right even if my 'fluffy quotient' is apparently high due to FRs solely for ladies I'd see again. Happily there are several.

Uncle Pokey

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Tiggy, see my post above because I don't want to be a dullard and repeat myself but I quite strongly disagree with this. What is of most interest to me is the factual stuff and if you post two "bland" reports a week that, nonetheless, tell me the girl was fat/thin, tall/short, friendly/unfriendly, clean/dirty, shaved/unshaved, engaged/disengaged but omit the other gory details on what you did and why you, personally, did or didn't get off on it then I for one would be quite happy. All I want, as one of your fellow punters, is a few facts. Give me those and I have enough to decide whether to book and I'll go along for myself to work out the rest. All of us have different personalities and most girls will react at least slightly differently for each client. The best we can hope from a report is a dispassionate recounting of the key details. Unless you describe yourself in each report in the same detail as you do the girls, there is nothing more we can glean.

 

I take your point, L, but I have posted a lot of FRs over the years, most of which have since been archived or deleted by now, and I simply am no longer as moved to do a full FR today as I was when I signed up for Punternet nearly 15 years ago.  Also, I punt quite differently now then I did back then, because I have swapped zeal for cunning (we aging roue's fight a continual battle for survival :P ).  I never bother to ask whether the WG is willing to perform any or all of the 'enjoys' on her list - frankly, I don't really care since my wants are simple and it is a rare WG who will refuse them (or fail to enjoy them).  When I do actually post a FR, it usually is a bit of a puff piece because I am as interested in giving the rising star a boost as I am in revealing all of her secrets to my fellow man - I have given and I have received over the years when it comes to FRs; for the most part these days, I only read those written on WGs I already have seen or who I have on my 'to do' list and probably will see, regardless what some guy named 'Joe' may have had to say about them.  You may call this selfish, but that's my way of doing things.  If you have a specialist interest and I post on a thread that covers it, you may get my slant on a particular WG under discussion, eg, if you want to see a diminutive Thai WG who offers a world-class GFE but will still provide entry into her back passage with a lovely smile, simply check out the 007escorts website and click onto 'Zizzi', but don't look for a FR on her here - G has banned all FRs on 007 WGs for so long that even he has probably forgot why he did so (if you must know, that's another reason I no longer post FRs here with the gusto that I used to).  I was tipped off about 'Zizzi' by two buddies I met on various oriental fanciers' threads.

 

In any case, I am sure the other guys with whom you share the search for the punt of a lifetime will be more helpful than an old guy who has had his Freedom Pass for a few years now. :)

 

ps, you're not a dullard. ;)

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