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Aw, My Findings On The 23Rd June: Timewasters/false Profiles?

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On the 23rd June I sent an e-mail to 15 SPs who offered the services that I was seeking.

 

The e-mail was polite and asked for the Ladies postcode and at what time it was best to ring her. All profiles included a phone number.

 

To date, 1 has been deleted without being read, 10 remain unopened, 3 have been opened but not replied and only 1 has been replied to.

 

All but the replied to e-mails were EE, the replied to was from an 'English' lass.

 

5 phone calls went onto answer phone, a text 'Text me' being received immediately. A further text 'I would prefer to ring you', was met with silence or 'Text only'.

 

I would conclude from this that the profiles are false, the ladies in question have no intention of meeting and are making money, or the person running them, has hundreds of profiles all with £1 to view.

 

BTW,  a high proportion of the EE profiles offered BB and Unprotected penetration.

 

Your thoughts? This is just within 15 miles of the SN postcode area BTW.

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So don't use Adultwork, enough warnings about the place already.

Forget about using the search engine, just click on the "Local" tab, the first page displayed will be from WG's who have paid £1.50p the day before to be included in "Local" forget about the other pages just scan the first page, if you see a wg offering the services you require then just ring her, don't bother with email, every wg has a phone and if she wants business she will answer.

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SPs can pay a subscription which allows the content of emails(but not sender details) to be sent to their main email address. In this way they can decide whether to log into AW to reply, the email remains unread until they do this.

 

If someone asks me for a postcode in their opening email I won't give it, but I will give enough info for them to estimate and plan an arrival time plus or minus 10 minutes. Regards a time to call that's another difficult one, and a question I find a bit frustrating - I'll recommend first thing in the morning and that's about it simply because quite often you simply cannot predict when you are/are not going to be booked - clients arrive early/late sometimes you get up and your carefully planned appointments all go tits up. If a regular gets in touch I'm not going to turn down an appointment at 2pm because I've advised someone to call early afternoon. No excuse though for not giving a polite reply, enough information to allow the guy to work out an arrival time to plus or minus 5 minutes, and advice on either phoning first thing or any other time and listening to voicemail greeting which I set to advise when I am free if busy.

 

Apart from the above I haven't a clue if the profiles are genuine or not, only the person behind them truly knows!

Edited by Strawberry

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The above does not surprise me at all.  I take a look around that site now and then and see many profiles which were put up at one point and then never updated. I am assuming the OP checked that those sites had been logged into within a day or so of him contacting them.

 

I use an automated email response on my profile which asks politely that first time enquirers phone me rather than wait for an email reply. It seems to work well as I always display my number.

 

The site has a fair sprinkling of falsies and fibbers but a high proportion of men have only ever used it and are not aware or have not bothered to search the net for other options of finding fun. If anyone hates it so much .... whether punter or sp..... no one is forced to have anything to do with it.

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The above does not surprise me at all.  I take a look around that site now and then and see many profiles which were put up at one point and then never updated. I am assuming the OP checked that those sites had been logged into within a day or so of him contacting them.

 

I use an automated email response on my profile which asks politely that first time enquirers phone me rather than wait for an email reply. It seems to work well as I always display my number.

 

The site has a fair sprinkling of falsies and fibbers but a high proportion of men have only ever used it and are not aware or have not bothered to search the net for other options of finding fun. If anyone hates it so much .... whether punter or sp..... no one is forced to have anything to do with it.

There are some profiles near me set up in 2010 which have never been logged into.

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I would be curious to see what your email said.... There are a lot of false profiles on there.....

Lots of guys do text me even if it sais that no text pls.... 

Then I text back, give them an answer and politely ask them to ring me afterwards, but they just keep texting for England. I prefer to talk to the guys, as it gives me a fairer judgement of their character.... 

I also have an auto respond set up there, so hopefully that helps.

xxx

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I would be curious to see what your email said.... There are a lot of false profiles on there.....

Lots of guys do text me even if it sais that no text pls.... 

Then I text back, give them an answer and politely ask them to ring me afterwards, but they just keep texting for England. I prefer to talk to the guys, as it gives me a fairer judgement of their character.... 

I also have an auto respond set up there, so hopefully that helps.

xxx

Something along the lines of:

 

Subject: Hello, Steve here

 

Text: Hi, I am Steve

 

I am 55, white, trimmed beard and have good feedback.

 

I have searched for an escort that meets my requirements and your profile has shown up.

 

May I ring you please and if so, what is the best time?

 

Also, what is you postcode?

 

Lol

 

Steve

 

I certainly prefer to talk as you say, it gives a far better judgement of character in both directions.

 

Are there alternatives to AW?

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Well, 

I think you did not get replies, as you have asked for the postcode..... This is a safety issue!!!

Next time you should ask ladies to give you a landmark or a street near their place.... they will be much more happy to give that out.

I think the rest is fine, unless you had some mega weird request!

You can search the girls here..... 

I would give advice, about where I'm advertising at, but I'm not sure it is allowed tbh...

That site is not what it used to be for escorts either.... 

They should really just end an email to  all providers and get them to respond in lets say 30 or 60 days, and if they don't their accounts should be made offline!!! So the girls, who don't log in won't litter the site!

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Am I actually allowed to mention other sites???

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Well, 

I think you did not get replies, as you have asked for the postcode..... This is a safety issue!!!

Next time you should ask ladies to give you a landmark or a street near their place.... they will be much more happy to give that out.

I think the rest is fine, unless you had some mega weird request!

You can search the girls here..... 

I would give advice, about where I'm advertising at, but I'm not sure it is allowed tbh...

That site is not what it used to be for escorts either.... 

They should really just end an email to  all providers and get them to respond in lets say 30 or 60 days, and if they don't their accounts should be made offline!!! So the girls, who don't log in won't litter the site!

The postcode is not one property, it usually a number, all of which would be anonymous to anyone without the house name or number, so its not a safety issue.

 

But I agree, its a good idea to give a street name which is searchable, but landmarks not so easy.

 

Agree with tidying up, shall I email them!

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I do think it raises quite an important point, it isn't just ladies who have to suffer timewasters.

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No answer, quickly followed by a text requesting that you text her, in my experience indicates no or poor English.

 

CB

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The postcode is not one property, it usually a number, all of which would be anonymous to anyone without the house name or number, so its not a safety issue.

 

But I agree, its a good idea to give a street name which is searchable, but landmarks not so easy.

 

Agree with tidying up, shall I email them!

Err around here one post code can cover one building, or narrow it down to a place with not that many people living there..

 

Regards your email, can't see any problem with it. Some ladies can feel uncomfortable being asked something like street name so early on and I'd answer it but as I posted earlier today I'd simply reply advising to just phone either when I turn phone on in the morning, or just whenever convenient and then give enough location info to get you within 5 minutes.

 

Anyone can type out a "No thank you", or whatever however as I keep finding out people often do ignore emails in all areas of life, or if they do they'll often not answer the question you are asking. I think some people are just rude, others really do not check their emails. Not everyone is as 'on' as we are. An organisation I'm involved with uses the internet as it's main form of contact for it's members, and regularly tells people they'll use the internet as contact method. Well some important info went out about an event by email, info which needed a response to and lo and behold some people were there at the last minute saying "I hardly ever check my email" - I am talking about switched on young people here too.

 

I hear complaints from guys about the number of profiles on AW which do not respond or reply to emails all the time. I don't understand why they just don't find another way, and carry on fishing about fruitlessly. 

 

Alternatives?

 

Google brings up quite a few indie and agency websites

Pnet

Plink

Select an Escort

X-north

LBB

Northern Angels

Cherry Girls

 

I could go on but it's all out there - just stick the words into the search engine.

Edited by Strawberry

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I don't see why there is a problem about giving out approximate location information and then giving specific information later on.  If you live in Boston surely all you need to do is tell them that you live in Boston?   It's not that big a place that you can't get anywhere in a few minutes.    If you live in Birmingham then why not give the suburb or tell him that you live in the north of Birmingham near to ????????       Tell him that you live 200  -  300 yards away from where you actually live.    Unless the guy's a complete moron he'll understand why you do it.    

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No answer, quickly followed by a text requesting that you text her, in my experience indicates no or poor English.

 

CB

 

My very first punt was with a very lovely young lady who, despite my requests to speak with her, insisted on texts.   When I arrived I discovered that her english was practically non existent. 

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I don't see why there is a problem about giving out approximate location information and then giving specific information later on.  If you live in Boston surely all you need to do is tell them that you live in Boston?   It's not that big a place that you can't get anywhere in a few minutes.    If you live in Birmingham then why not give the suburb or tell him that you live in the north of Birmingham near to ????????       Tell him that you live 200  -  300 yards away from where you actually live.    Unless the guy's a complete moron he'll understand why you do it.    

Some guys do get quite pushy on this one, they want to plan their 'safe' arrival. I can understand it but for my own reasons, and for actually both our benefit I won't. When I have given specifics guys have gone off thinking I'm somewhere else,started planning some really complex parking, walking route, they know best where to park so the CIA cannot track them down, it's where they think they should park mission which has then resulted in them being late cos they either got it wrong or they didn't realise their cleverly formulated plan has parked themselves a good 15 minutes walk away :rolleyes:  :lol: . More often than not when you do give a street or postal code the same person will then start to try and second guess which building you are in, sometimes really getting it wrong, other times hitting the right spot. I simply don't need that level of stress and hassle and many ladies find it a real put off.

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If there's no contact number on a profile, I never ask anything about the girl's location in my first email. All I do is send a friendly Hello message, outline a time/date I wish to meet and ask if she's available, and give a little info about myself. If she replies that she is available then we start on the finer details. I've had a reply to every email I've sent so far, (not that there's been very many!) - but then I've only contacted British SP's.

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Something along the lines of:

 

Subject: Hello, Steve here

 

Text: Hi, I am Steve

 

I am 55, white, trimmed beard and have good feedback.

 

I have searched for an escort that meets my requirements and your profile has shown up.

 

May I ring you please and if so, what is the best time?

 

Also, what is you postcode?

 

Lol

 

Steve

 

I certainly prefer to talk as you say, it gives a far better judgement of character in both directions.

 

Are there alternatives to AW?

For myself i used to ask the nearest rail or tube station as a public transport user,if theres no station odds are i cant get there so any further enquiries are pointless.Always got more ignored,deleted emails than replies.The replies however have been from a full spectrum as it were.EE to English.

By any chance were your non replies from ladies with suspiciously similar profiles?Think with some of the EE "groups" everything is handled by one person.

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Unless you are a random house alone or in a small group in the middle of nowhere I really don't know why people see a postcode as a security issue? Just give the postcode a couple of streets along.

It's a poor excuse for ignoring some poor bloke who francys you enough to bother contacting you.

Also what is this snobbery that keeps coming up when guys mention they have good feedback. It's not to say " you have to see me" it's more to say " look Im a real punter not a time wasting emailer" I feel. I know we all make our own minds up based in experience and gut instinct regarding the guys we see but honestly...

P.s I know that last thing re the good feedback hasn't been mentioned yet but give it time

Edited by Chloe Kisses

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Forget about using the search engine, just click on the "Local" tab, the first page displayed will be from WG's who have paid £1.50p the day before to be included in "Local" forget about the other pages just scan the first page, if you see a wg offering the services you require then just ring her, don't bother with email, every wg has a phone and if she wants business she will answer.

 

That's safe advice but it relegates AW to a directory and in the age of the Internet so much more is possible than in the days of Yellow Pages! Yes, I've had lots of cases where I've had no reply to an email but when you do get replies often it can lead to a much better punt. Many girls will not discuss their services on the phone as they assume the caller is wanking away furiously. With an email you can be explicit about what you want and the few good responders will win through.

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On the 23rd June I sent an e-mail to 15 SPs who offered the services that I was seeking.

 

The e-mail was polite and asked for the Ladies postcode and at what time it was best to ring her. All profiles included a phone number.

 

To date, 1 has been deleted without being read, 10 remain unopened, 3 have been opened but not replied and only 1 has been replied to.

 

All but the replied to e-mails were EE, the replied to was from an 'English' lass.

 

5 phone calls went onto answer phone, a text 'Text me' being received immediately. A further text 'I would prefer to ring you', was met with silence or 'Text only'.

 

I would conclude from this that the profiles are false, the ladies in question have no intention of meeting and are making money, or the person running them, has hundreds of profiles all with £1 to view.

 

BTW,  a high proportion of the EE profiles offered BB and Unprotected penetration.

 

Your thoughts? This is just within 15 miles of the SN postcode area BTW.

 

I seem to remember you have done this sort of experiment before, pollyp23, contacting ladies, including some offering BB, purely to test responses with no real intention of visiting any of them.  It wouldn't surprise me if your email address and phone number are widely circulated among local WGs as that of a timewaster who may seem alright on first contact but never actually makes a booking.

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The email looks like a cut and paste (which it is) and fails to address the recipient by name which would make me think you weren't particularly interested in visiting me personally although I would probably reply pointing out that my name is prominently displayed on my profile. The 'lol' from a man purporting to be 55 would make me think twice too, but I'm a tough crowd.

Apart from that and given that you've plenty of form for it, I'm inclined to agree with Dan.

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I seem to remember you have done this sort of experiment before, pollyp23, contacting ladies, including some offering BB, purely to test responses with no real intention of visiting any of them.  It wouldn't surprise me if your email address and phone number are widely circulated among local WGs as that of a timewaster who may seem alright on first contact but never actually makes a booking.

Leave it out Dan, these were genuine enquiries in a bit of a punting desert, I really can't see that my number and details has been circulated!

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The email looks like a cut and paste (which it is) and fails to address the recipient by name which would make me think you weren't particularly interested in visiting me personally although I would probably reply pointing out that my name is prominently displayed on my profile. The 'lol' from a man purporting to be 55 would make me think twice too, but I'm a tough crowd.

Apart from that and given that you've plenty of form for it, I'm inclined to agree with Dan.

It wasn't cut and paste, it was an example of the sort of thing I sent. Where the lady gave a name, I would refer to her by that name.

 

If one looks at other social networking sites 'lol' appears to me to be a perfectly reasonable form of signing off, so why not on AW? Its no worse than the often used response from a lady calling me 'babe'!

 

The point was, that a very high proportion of ladies offering the services that I am seeking in the area that I am interested in didn't reply and this, coupled with the 'text me' leads me to believe/suspect that they are not real.

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I've had various conversations with people both in and outside the sex-work business, many of whom also use social networking sites, and many, many of them really do not like 'lol', 'hun', the absolutely horrible 'bb' shorting of the almost quite as bad when used by someone who doesn't know or care for you 'babe'. Men and women alike so I'd not take whatever you see on social networking sites as an example of how people like to be addressed. It may be 'fashionable' but it also is a big turn off for many. Personally I ignore text speak, don't partake in or encourage it which usually gets picked up by the other person and so it dies a death - after all it does take two!

Edited by Strawberry

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