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Rhoda's Bill To Criminalise Purchase Of Sex Has Failed

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No news article to link to yet, but people involved in the campaign against the bill have been in touch with the Scottish parliament and confirmed that it was rejected by a small margin. 

 

Yipee!

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Great now we don't have to keep reading about Rhoda Grant (unless you want to follow the politics of black puddings).

 

But a question still remains over Edinburgh's saunas- because of Scotland's single police force is Edinburgh going to end up taking the same "zero tolerance" approach like Glasgow?

 

And a similar bill is making progress through N. Ireland's parliament

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She never replied to my letter :(

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She never replied to my letter :(

 

Nor mine..

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Fantastic news - well done to everyone who worked hard to oppose these proposals, especially the likes of Laura Lee who bravely stood up to Rhoda Grant all the way.

 

if it was a close run thing, then that shows the importance of political campaigning. Without the opposition these proposals may have become law.

 

No doubt this battle will be replayed in the future....

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Fantastic! :)

 

As above said, well done everyone who stood up to the miserable buggers!

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Time for her to don the tweed knickers and bugger off.

Trying to preach the Western Isles morals on the rest of Scotland.

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Time for her to don the tweed knickers and bugger off.

Trying to preach the Western Isles morals on the rest of Scotland.

 

I knew the malicious old cow wouldn't go away.

 

It doesn't look as though it's over yet by a long chalk:-

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-accused-blocking-new-law-2008377

 

Notice how the article uses the standard misleading streetgirl pic ... and starts its list of 953 respondents to the "consultation" with "sex workers, customers ...." It makes you sick how unscrupulous they are.
 
It's a serious worry if it's going to become a party political issue though. And this "Scottish Government have said they recognise that prostitution is a form of violence against women" is really bad! The SNP will be under pressure to show what THEY intend to do now!!
 
Gonna have to get some Labour and Tory MSPs on side IMO
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Have any Tory MSPs supported Grant's proposal?

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Have any Tory MSPs supported Grant's proposal?

 

Only Labour and Tory MSPs supported it but dunno which ones or how many.

 

No Lib Dems or Greens supported the proposal and SNP members were TOLD not to, so we don't know whether any would have.

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Have any Tory MSPs supported Grant's proposal?

 

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/parliamentarybusiness/Bills/54314.aspx

 

22 labour and 1 Tory (Murdo Fraser) supported RG's bill.

 

For comparison Trish Godman's similar bill had support from 32 labour, 2 tory (including Murdo Fraser) and 2 SNP MSPs.

 

Interesting how the bill this time round has less MSP support. The 2 SNPs and 1 of the Tories who supported TG's bill did not sign up in support of this one.

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Here is basically how labour's view differs from the tories:

 

 

The Scottish Conservatives believe that a balance needs to be struck between the freedom of individuals and the protection of the public.  Individuals should have the freedom to choose to engage in consensual sexual activity as long as this doesn’t harm or exploit others. The issue of human trafficking can be separated from consensual sexual activity between individuals.

 

 

 

Labour’s view is that this bill will address the imbalance in our current
law which criminalises the victim but not the perpetrator. The purpose of this legislati on
would be to decrease demand and thereby begin to tackle an industry that preys on
vulnerable people.

 

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Here is basically how labour's view differs from the tories:

So when the fake Socialists (Labour) win the next general election in the UK which they will in a lanslide, especially given that UKIP will canniblaise Tory seats, the countdown clock will be on to criminlaisation of clients!

The UK to be a punting wasteland within about 5 years!

Sweden used to be haven on earth for our hobby/trade and look at it now!

The only slight possibilty to stop this is to remain eternally vigilant and use every legal means possible to slap down abolutionists when they pop their disgusting heads up!

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I got an email today from a Green MSP explaining why she didn't support the proposal.

 

I am particularly concerned for the health and well-being of those selling sexual services. It is vitally important that we do all that we can to ensure that all sex workers have ready, non-stigmatising access to health facilities and advice, treatment for addiction problems, legal advice and information about alternatives to their current lifestyles, including support for those wishing to leave sex work. There is a body of evidence that supports the view that criminalisation of the purchase of sex will make it increasingly difficult for those involved to access these essential services for fear of prosecution. I shall will not, therefore, be supporting the proposal. 

 

 

I sent an email off to all MSPs btw a couple of weeks back. Most replied with the standard "If you are a constituent please give your name and address" but a number of MSPs did reply with a meaningful response telling me their stance on the issue and some saying they would keep my points in mind if it went to the debating stage.

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Daily Record attacks the SNP accusing them of blocking RG's bill.

 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-accused-blocking-new-law-2008377

 

And here they are at it again:

 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/annie-brown-snp-should-supported-2019675

 

Those who support the bill include health boards, groups who work with male and female sex workers, and prostitutes themselves.

 

 

Not very accurate to claim "prostitutes themselves support the bill" when only 3 out of 63 (4%) sex workers who responded did, is it?

 

And as usual with every single Daily Record article on prostitution, they have a pic of a woman standing on the street at night (but at least this time they didn't show us a pic of a woman injecting heroin into herself).

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Who the fuck is Annie Brown?

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Here is basically how labour's view differs from the tories:

Yes interesting contrast. I sincerly hope Labour and Harriet Harridan dont get in in 2015, i have no doubt if they do and she is put back in the postition to that she will contiune her crusade to criminalise ALL punters.

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Who the fuck is Annie Brown?

 

 

Award-winning Chief Writer of the Daily Record

:unsure:

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Interesting to note that not even Johann Lamont (the pretend leader of a pretend party - there's no such thing as Scottish Labour, just UK Labour) backed a bill by one of her own MSPs. Quite a few big hitters (or at least what passes for them in Labour these days) missing from the list of backers, in fact - Richard Baker (his wife backed it though - that might be awkward in the Baker household...), Lewis MacDonald, Jackie Ballie, Jenny Marra, Kezia Dugdale and Sarah Boyack are all missing from the list. If she couldn't even get the support of the movers and shakers in her own party, the bill was always doomed. I wonder if they just didn't want to be connected to such a dreadful piece of legislation...?

 

So when the fake Socialists (Labour) win the next general election in the UK which they will in a lanslide, especially given that UKIP will canniblaise Tory seats, the countdown clock will be on to criminlaisation of clients!
The UK to be a punting wasteland within about 5 years!
Sweden used to be haven on earth for our hobby/trade and look at it now!
The only slight possibilty to stop this is to remain eternally vigilant and use every legal means possible to slap down abolutionists when they pop their disgusting heads up!

 

Ed Miliband becoming Prime Minister? Never happening! No matter how awful a job the Tories are doing, voters would never put a man who looks like he still gets wedgies every morning in charge of a country.

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Interesting to note that not even Johann Lamont (the pretend leader of a pretend party - there's no such thing as Scottish Labour, just UK Labour) backed a bill by one of her own MSPs. Quite a few big hitters (or at least what passes for them in Labour these days) missing from the list of backers, in fact - Richard Baker (his wife backed it though - that might be awkward in the Baker household...), Lewis MacDonald, Jackie Ballie, Jenny Marra, Kezia Dugdale and Sarah Boyack are all missing from the list. If she couldn't even get the support of the movers and shakers in her own party, the bill was always doomed. I wonder if they just didn't want to be connected to such a dreadful piece of legislation...?

 

 

Ed Miliband becoming Prime Minister? Never happening! No matter how awful a job the Tories are doing, voters would never put a man who looks like he still gets wedgies every morning in charge of a country.

Miliband will be your next PM with Harman either as deputy PM or Home secretary! While Labour aka The Fake Socialist Party may have some socialists within it as Tony Benn rather famously said like The COE or The RCC have a small number of Christians in them, and indeed some genuine Socialists in the Labour party will abstain or speak out against criminalise the punter laws, the majority within this party which will have a huge majority (the Tories will suffer due to UKIP taking their votes and maybe a few of their seats) will cynically support Mad Hattie and her insane proposals!

UK to be a punting wasteland within 5 years!

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I think LABour might win but Ed Milliband won't be leader. For a start they need to fix his bloody eyes. You think they would have learnt anything from St Tony's reign.

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Interesting to note that not even Johann Lamont (the pretend leader of a pretend party - there's no such thing as Scottish Labour, just UK Labour) backed a bill by one of her own MSPs. Quite a few big hitters (or at least what passes for them in Labour these days) missing from the list of backers, in fact - Richard Baker (his wife backed it though - that might be awkward in the Baker household...), Lewis MacDonald, Jackie Ballie, Jenny Marra, Kezia Dugdale and Sarah Boyack are all missing from the list. If she couldn't even get the support of the movers and shakers in her own party, the bill was always doomed. I wonder if they just didn't want to be connected to such a dreadful piece of legislation...?

 

 

Ed Miliband becoming Prime Minister? Never happening! No matter how awful a job the Tories are doing, voters would never put a man who looks like he still gets wedgies every morning in charge of a country.

 

 

What are you basing this on? It certainly isn't the polls.

 

The Tories are leaving in 2014. Milliband is the next PM and Harman will be the deputy. The rise of UKIP will ensure that Labour will be in in 2014, this outcome is 95 percent certain.

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Labour are nowhere near ahead enough in the polls for an outright win at the moment, and this business with Unite in the Falkirk selection process can only damage him. And the more Milibean sets out his "vision", the more people will say "why dump one bunch of neoliberal nitwits just to elect another bunch, but with an even worse leader?"

Anyone not convinced should check out how Labour managed to go from a huge polling lead in January 2011 to losing to the SNP so badly in May 2011 that we now have a majority government in a system which is supposed to prevent single-party majorities! If your leader is a moron, your party won't win - simple as that!

Labour's only chance of winning in 2015 is dumping Milibean beforehand. The guy's a liability.

(Although luckily for us up in Scotland, we'll have voted for independence by then anyway :-P)

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And I take no satisfaction in saying any of that, because being a Scot, I have a natural hatred of Tories. But unfortunately for England, all you have is a vote to decide your favourite flavour of Tory - blue, red or (cowardly) yellow.

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