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Timewasters: What Techniques Do You Ladies Use To Minimise These?

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Do you ask punters to email you, to ring you or even to send a small deposit via Paypal?

 

I've just seen my regular Lady and she is reporting a huge percentage of timewasters.

 

Other ideas?

 

 

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Do you ask punters to email you, to ring you or even to send a small deposit via Paypal?

 

I've just seen my regular Lady and she is reporting a huge percentage of timewasters.

 

Other ideas?

Instinct

Not getting into extensive email, phonecall or text exchanges

Asking for phone call if only had text/email contact

Sticking to confirmation procedure

Not giving address until they are nearby

For outcalls obtaining proof of residency or hotel reservation

 

Why isn't she asking herself, many of us make a lot of effort to network with each other, read forums, swap tips and read internet advice sites. A while back a guy who'd been a client of mine couldn't understand why I wasn't impressed with him texting me asking advice for another lady, I sent a quick reply which he didn't understand because he couldn't see the SP's template on AW. It was frustrating to say the least and all I got when I suggested perhaps she have a read of SAAFE or he give me a call rather than ping-ponging with texts was "You get a bit irrate don't you?".

 

Back to the point all of the above isn't fool proof but it's the best we can do and it does cut down on the knock and run type guys, end of the day sheer gut instinct is a good as anything.

 

Oh and genuine and non-genuine guys will both say they are, err genuine, make the same promises "Yes, yes, yes I'll be there". I wait until someone turns up before I make up my mind, but there are some clues.

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Instinct

Not getting into extensive email, phonecall or text exchanges

Asking for phone call if only had text/email contact

Sticking to confirmation procedure

Not giving address until they are nearby

For outcalls obtaining proof of residency or hotel reservation

 

Why isn't she asking herself, many of us make a lot of effort to network with each other, read forums, swap tips and read internet advice sites. A while back a guy who'd been a client of mine couldn't understand why I wasn't impressed with him texting me asking advice for another lady, I sent a quick reply which he didn't understand because he couldn't see the SP's template on AW. It was frustrating to say the least and all I got when I suggested perhaps she have a read of SAAFE or he give me a call rather than ping-ponging with texts was "You get a bit irrate don't you?".

 

Back to the point all of the above isn't fool proof but it's the best we can do and it does cut down on the knock and run type guys, end of the day sheer gut instinct is a good as anything.

 

Oh and genuine and non-genuine guys will both say they are, err genuine, make the same promises "Yes, yes, yes I'll be there". I wait until someone turns up before I make up my mind, but there are some clues.

She hasn't got access to a computer, only has her phone, so its not that easy.

 

I never use PN on my phone, its awful.

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She hasn't got access to a computer, only has her phone, so its not that easy.

 

I never use PN on my phone, its awful.

 

Well if she's working just from a phone then I'm guessing she's relying on newspaper ads, where huge numbers of timewasters come with the territory. It's nobodies fault really, as advertising in mainstream rather than dedicated punting places means far more people who have no interest in booking are going to see your phone number, and given that the papers are very restrictive on what you write then an awful lot of the calls are going to amount to nothing even if they're not actually timewasters (people who don't book because the fees are too high, or the service they want isn't offered say).

 

I'd recommend she gets herself into town and picks up a cheap laptop. If she's having to ask you to be her spokeperson on internet forums, then it sounds like she's recognised there's a massive part of the industry which she doesn't have any access to and there's plenty of help available there as well as proper places to advertise :).

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I hardly work so the ratio of everything is greatly reduced.  If I do get a timewaster, he is logged into my 'phone under some obnoxious heading, and he never gets a second chance - no matter how much he denies it was he despite using the same number...doh.. and offering to make it up to me/that we had crossed lines/that he would never do it again...  NO !

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As for spotting timewasters, it's 99% instinct as Ruth said. Most give themselves away in their opening gambit, but some can be moderately plausible which is when proper confirmation and booking procedures generally weed 'em out.

 

I've not long come back from three weeks in Ireland and had precisely one no show (that I was expecting to turn up and actually got ready for, that is) the whole time I was there. Wanting 'sex chat' on the phone or sending lengthy, explicit emails, not knowing anything about who they're calling (let alone fees and services) but still asking about long, expensive bookings, banging on about how huge their cock is (mentioning body parts in any context bar mobility problems or similar is pretty much a guaranteed TW). Asking if you're available 'now' when they have no idea where you are is another classic.

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My radar starts flashing within the first sentence of a time waster call.  The "hi hun u free" texts.... the "hello where bouts are you" calls.... from guys who have not asked "is that Lynn?"   all of which indicate a man/boy who is just playing around......

 

I have been a naughty woman for several years now and although we can all be caught out occasionally after giving someone the benefit of the doubt it does get much easier to detect the silly ones.

 

Girls... if they are indie and just starting out may get fooled often and disillusioned quickly and that is a shame.

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Yup. what the ladies have said and a big yes to instinct, although sometimes I get it wrong! And yes, it does get better with time. 

 

I only take bookings via phone calls not texts, hearing someone really helps with the spidey sense! 

Get them to confirm an hour before time so if they don't you don't waste time getting ready and can pick up another booking. 

Don't give out the full address until they are actually here and you can see them.

 

As Amy says if she wants to do this properly she really needs computer access. The advertising, support from others and achieving a web presence as a serious genuine operator will help hugely with gaining the right sort of clients as well as access to all the good advice out there.

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Timewasters seem to come in batches, like they can smell each other in the air. There is no true way to weed out all timewasters as even the most normal and direct contact from a guy can end in him just not bothering to let you know he cant now make it.

 

Instinct

No text talk bookings

No constant text contact

No discussion of the size of his cock

No telling them the scenarios or what Im wearing

No answer to rude people

Ignore emails stating simply "details please" or "when you free?" with not so much as a hello

All clients have to confirm their advance bookings by a certain time on the day

No bookings from withheld number or even conversation

 

 

Thats pretty much it. x

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One person's timewaster is another's inquirer.

 

As I see it, in any industry or transaction, an inquiry about services is not an obligation to buy.  How can it be?  By that rationale, calling the local KFC about how much a bucket costs is "bad", though I doubt they'd care that much.  Whilst punting is not a recognised/regulated industry, in sectors that are an obligation to buy only exists per contract, or if an intention has been made to buy/sell. 

 

I may annoy some here by stating this, but I often cold call to see who is working at given periods/locations.  I do it to lessen risk on my end, and not travel miles just to get a woman I either don't fancy or is not my type.  I largely, though not exclusively, punt with Indian WGs since to me they're cute and turn me on.  So I would call parlours to see if they have any Indian WGs available.  If not, then I will call others and arrange to go down if they do.  This may piss off parlour owners, but then as I see it I'm just spending money wisely and in a way that gives me satisfaction.  I don't see that as wrong, but just as being prudent.

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I dont mind cold callers. They are the bread and butter of a days business usually x

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One person's timewaster is another's inquirer.

 

As I see it, in any industry or transaction, an inquiry about services is not an obligation to buy.  How can it be?  By that rationale, calling the local KFC about how much a bucket costs is "bad", though I doubt they'd care that much.  Whilst punting is not a recognised/regulated industry, in sectors that are an obligation to buy only exists per contract, or if an intention has been made to buy/sell. 

 

I may annoy some here by stating this, but I often cold call to see who is working at given periods/locations.  I do it to lessen risk on my end, and not travel miles just to get a woman I either don't fancy or is not my type.  I largely, though not exclusively, punt with Indian WGs since to me they're cute and turn me on.  So I would call parlours to see if they have any Indian WGs available.  If not, then I will call others and arrange to go down if they do.  This may piss off parlour owners, but then as I see it I'm just spending money wisely and in a way that gives me satisfaction.  I don't see that as wrong, but just as being prudent.

I thought we were talking about guys who book, then muck about and don't bother to turn up, or who constantly book with no intention of going through with it(and I don't mean genuine life coming up) - not real enquiries to confirm details, or ask valid questions.

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Timewasters seem to come in batches, like they can smell each other in the air. There is no true way to weed out all timewasters as even the most normal and direct contact from a guy can end in him just not bothering to let you know he cant now make it.

 

Instinct

No text talk bookings

No constant text contact

No discussion of the size of his cock

No telling them the scenarios or what Im wearing

No answer to rude people

Ignore emails stating simply "details please" or "when you free?" with not so much as a hello

All clients have to confirm their advance bookings by a certain time on the day

No bookings from withheld number or even conversation

 

 

Thats pretty much it. x

 

 

Apart from all the above, after a man makes a booking, I still don't expect one that, (despite hitherto looking like a bone fide booking), 

 

- asks for me to text the postcode - (I then ask them to take it down now).

 

- asks if I see younger men (yes I do, but obviously not you because you won't turn up) 

 

- asks a question AFTER making the booking

 

Of course, they MAY turn up and I will be available, but I am rarely wrong with the spidey senses.

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- asks a question AFTER making the booking

 

Of course, they MAY turn up and I will be available, but I am rarely wrong with the spidey senses.

 

That's a give away.  can I ask a question ... it's usually, a question about the size of their cock; am I shaved; or do I see younger guys .  And you just know, that's it.  Delete the booking.

 

Sometimes, the question is, can I shower when I arrive.  That one's likely to be genuine.

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That's a give away.  can I ask a question ... it's usually, a question about the size of their cock; am I shaved; or do I see younger guys .  And you just know, that's it.  Delete the booking.

 

Sometimes, the question is, can I shower when I arrive.  That one's likely to be genuine.

Haha Yes Pru that's a huge give away when they've gone through the booking process and sounded quite normal to that point and then the dreaded " Can I ask you a question please?"  Yesssssss?  "I've got a 14" cock is that ok?"

 

One day whilst sitting in a cafe with an escort friend trying to be discreet I had that call and had the devil in me and blurted out "It's ok I've got a 19" fanny!"  He just hung up.  And then some bloke in the corner of the cafe piped up "Good for you love" hahaha I just turned and gave him a cheeky smile ;-)

 

He must have thought I was mental.

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Apart from all the above, after a man makes a booking, I still don't expect one that, (despite hitherto looking like a bone fide booking), 

 

- asks for me to text the postcode - (I then ask them to take it down now).

 

 

Now that one genuinely surprises me.

 

I would have thought that most would be like me and want the postcode texted / emailed as it is better to know approximately where you are going before leaving home, especially if you don't know the area you are visiting, and it is far too easy to mishear or incorrectly transcribe 6 / 7 random letters and numbers over a poor mobile line.

 

I guess I am a  time waster them. I'll get over it. 

 

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Now that one genuinely surprises me.

 

I would have thought that most would be like me and want the postcode texted / emailed as it is better to know approximately where you are going before leaving home, especially if you don't know the area you are visiting, and it is far too easy to mishear or incorrectly transcribe 6 / 7 random letters and numbers over a poor mobile line.

 

I guess I am a  time waster them. I'll get over it. 

 

 

 

Surely it is not too much to expect that you have a pen and paper handy and that you want to take down the postcode/directions when you ring if you are serious about making a booking.

 

It is not hard to read the postcode back to check that you have taken it down correctly. I would say 99% of my visitors do this.

 

So yes, I would put you down as a timewaster.

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Pretty much what the other ladies have said.I won't even answer questions from witheld numbers and I won't accept text bookings from clients I don't know.I also store them as no shows or timeqasters on my phone and if needs be I will block their number.

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Ah yes the question thing! Nothing pisses me off more than thinking you're making a booking and have sorted time and date etc and then they start asking Do you do anal? can you describe yourself? How old are you? 

 

OR those who you make a booking with then you get the texts- Are you horny? Tell me what you're wearing? Are you hot for it? Or long long descriptions of sexual acts. They tend not to show up.

 

BTW The postcode thing, I am happy to text mine over in advance so I suppose the rule is to read a woman's profile/website for her processes and listen to her when you call and she tells you. There are no industry standards! 

 

Oh and one of the worst questions- Do you work alone? or Will anyone else be there?

Yes it might be because you don't like brothels or want a security man answering the door but it freaks the fuck out of me and gets an immediate block. 

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Ah yes the question thing! Nothing pisses me off more than thinking you're making a booking and have sorted time and date etc and then they start asking Do you do anal? can you describe yourself? How old are you? 

 

OR those who you make a booking with then you get the texts- Are you horny? Tell me what you're wearing? Are you hot for it? Or long long descriptions of sexual acts. They tend not to show up.

 

BTW The postcode thing, I am happy to text mine over in advance so I suppose the rule is to read a woman's profile/website for her processes and listen to her when you call and she tells you. There are no industry standards! 

 

Oh and one of the worst questions- Do you work alone? or Will anyone else be there?

Yes it might be because you don't like brothels or want a security man answering the door but it freaks the fuck out of me and gets an immediate block. 

I've had people mishear letters in the postcode, and I think I throw people with the NATO phonetic alphabet :D

 

Makes me smile when I receive a text, or phone call saying "I want a booking", we agree time, date etc and like you say then come the questions, turns out he doesn't know location/prices/minimum booking/services etc and they just aren't suitable, yet 2 minutes ago he was absolutely adamant he wanted a booking. I'm presuming some guys simply grab the number and want to suss out availability before asking the other essentials, but if there are certain parameters more important that availability then it might save some time to ask them first, then again as some say they like to 'get a feel' so who knows the logic behind it all.

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Surely it is not too much to expect that you have a pen and paper handy and that you want to take down the postcode/directions when you ring if you are serious about making a booking.

 

It is not hard to read the postcode back to check that you have taken it down correctly. I would say 99% of my visitors do this.

 

So yes, I would put you down as a timewaster.

I neither trust the accent of the WG, nor the quality of my phone reception, so if a WG wasn't prepared to txt me her postcode I would definitely tend to assume that she is the timewaster. 

 

I once had a booking with a caribbean girl and I phoned her three or four times to try to get an address from her.  Never understood what she was saying.  Tried texting the request but got no reply.  Stubbornly, not giving up, I finally get her to send a text but she sends a postcode only.  Great, I am in a car with no satnav!

 

Called into Dixons, asked them to google map it for me and somehow, 1/2 an hour late, made it to her location.  Took another half an hour to work out how her estate works.  Got there eventually, and she was very nice. :)

 

Having said this, I hate talking on the phone at all really, until I am actually in her street, and I always prefer to make arrangements by txt.  It's just the way I am.  At the same time, I hate to let anyone down, ever.  I'll move heaven and earth to turn up when I've agreed a booking, which is much more than I can say about 100% of the girls I've seen.

 

So neither a timewaster, nor fitting into your average indie's preferred profile. 

 

My texts are always very polite however.  :mellow:  

 

T.

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Even with the postcode,road name and that route basically being a straight road/run,albeit a bloody long one i've still managed to get lost,And that was also with a little map.God knows how i did it but ended up literally miles away.Did however pop round a few days later when i had time to drop the money in as it was purely my fault for being a muppet.
Suppose it was amusing when i phoned to say i couldnt make it,when asked where i was i replied with a sheepish,i dont know.

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I like having the postcode texted.  then i can cut and paste it into my phones satnay and no transcription errors.

 

one wonders with these filters for TWers, how many genuine blokes are put off.  Like any filter the hard bit is to set it at a level that works.

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I like having the postcode texted.  then i can cut and paste it into my phones satnay and no transcription errors.

 

one wonders with these filters for TWers, how many genuine blokes are put off.  Like any filter the hard bit is to set it at a level that works.

Some genuine guys will be put off, but if the filters are set too low then we get our time taken up by men who don't intend turning up. I'd rather risk losing a few genuine ones if it means I avoid the majority of TWs, or those who are going to cause me problems when they do arrive!

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Some genuine guys will be put off, but if the filters are set too low then we get our time taken up by men who don't intend turning up. I'd rather risk losing a few genuine ones if it means I avoid the majority of TWs, or those who are going to cause me problems when they do arrive!

 

Of course ladies' safety should be paramount.

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