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Mad Hattie Strikes Again

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Does this woman ever get anything right? Every time she tries something, it blows up in her face. Her "Equality" bill is a joke.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1228892/Queens-Speech-Browns-ditch-fightback-unveils-plans-free-social-care.html?ITO=1490&referrer=yahoo

Mad Hattie's idea of "Equality"

Firms will be able to favour equally qualified women over men and black and Asian candidates over white people when recruiting.

They call it Positive Discrimination. Favouring either men over women, or black/asian over white is discrimination. If there's positive discrimination in favour of one group, there's negative towards another. Legalised Sexism and Racism?

Public bodies encouraged to give contracts to firms with more diverse workforces

Again, this discriminates against other businesses. This flies in the face of the competition rules from their beloved EU that Labour support so much. When the new constitution comes into force on 1st December, the EU laws automatically take precedence over national laws anyway.

This is only 2 points from the bill. It seems very ill thought out. If you're a white, British, working male, seems Hattie is determined to make life hard.

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Does this woman ever get anything right? Every time she tries something, it blows up in her face. Her "Equality" bill is a joke.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1228892/Queens-Speech-Browns-ditch-fightback-unveils-plans-free-social-care.html?ITO=1490&referrer=yahoo

Mad Hattie's idea of "Equality"

Firms will be able to favour equally qualified women over men and black and Asian candidates over white people when recruiting.

They call it Positive Discrimination. Favouring either men over women, or black/asian over white is discrimination. If there's positive discrimination in favour of one group, there's negative towards another. Legalised Sexism and Racism?

Public bodies encouraged to give contracts to firms with more diverse workforces

Again, this discriminates against other businesses. This flies in the face of the competition rules from their beloved EU that Labour support so much. When the new constitution comes into force on 1st December, the EU laws automatically take precedence over national laws anyway.

This is only 2 points from the bill. It seems very ill thought out. If you're a white, British, working male, seems Hattie is determined to make life hard.

Oh it gets better Xmas will be banned as well

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Does this woman ever get anything right? Every time she tries something, it blows up in her face. Her "Equality" bill is a joke.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1228892/Queens-Speech-Browns-ditch-fightback-unveils-plans-free-social-care.html?ITO=1490&referrer=yahoo

Again, this discriminates against other businesses. This flies in the face of the competition rules from their beloved EU that Labour support so much. When the new constitution comes into force on 1st December, the EU laws automatically take precedence over national laws anyway.

This is only 2 points from the bill. It seems very ill thought out. If you're a white, British, working male, seems Hattie is determined to make life hard.

It isn't quite as easy as that! Have a look at Kalanke (Kalanke v. Freie Hansestadt Bremen) and see if you can understand it any better than I can! I think it says that where women are under-represented, you can chose a woman against a man if they are equally qualified, equally as suitable. What you cannot do is to select a woman where there is a better (even if only slightly) bloke!

I don't think that the EU law protects companies (the Company which will employ Hattie when she loses seat and Mondeo at the election) which are preferred to other companies, not because their tender is better, but because they are "nicer"!

Mad Hattie, in word and deed, but what I think she is doing (if there is time for her bill to go through Lords and Commons) and if the next government follows it, is to store up lots of v_e_r_y profitable work for lawyers, which IMHO is an excellent idea!

PS - try http://www.equalrightstrust.org/ertdocumentbank/Kalanke.pdf if you haven't got a date tonight, and have nothing better to do!

Edited by Irgendeiner
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Does this woman ever get anything right? Every time she tries something, it blows up in her face. Her "Equality" bill is a joke.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1228892/Queens-Speech-Browns-ditch-fightback-unveils-plans-free-social-care.html?ITO=1490&referrer=yahoo

Mad Hattie's idea of "Equality".............................

Again, this discriminates against other businesses. This flies in the face of the competition rules from their beloved EU that Labour support so much. When the new constitution comes into force on 1st December, the EU laws automatically take precedence over national laws anyway.

Can the new constitution be used to torpedo the "anti-punting" legislation in any way as a matter of interest ?

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We really have become a very stupid country, with brainless idiots who have got to powerful positions in many organisations (my own included) who seem to want to undermine things.

They should not forget, that even with a large ethnic population, GB is a Christian country, and the celebration of Christian festivals and events should not be underminded in a bid to appease an ethnic minority.

In other works, Fuck off Labour, and let us celebrate in our own style.

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To radical feminists there is no such thing as sexism against men, discrimination against men, violence against men and so on. I have wasted almost 7 years of my life looking for a job so if HH get her way that means I will waste more of my life doing that simply cause of women employing women over men.

We really have become a very stupid country, with brainless idiots who have got to powerful positions in many organisations (my own included) who seem to want to undermine things.

They should not forget, that even with a large ethnic population, GB is a Christian country, and the celebration of Christian festivals and events should not be underminded in a bid to appease an ethnic minority.

In other works, Fuck off Labour, and let us celebrate in our own style.

I hate to break the news to you but GB hasn't always been a Christian country. It only became a Christian country thanks to the Roman empire who wiped out the religions and myths that were here before, not to mention that fact that Xmas was originally a Pagan festival til Christianity hijacked it and made it their own.

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I hate to break the news to you but GB hasn't always been a Christian country

Uh, he never said it had been :P

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GB is a Christian country

Yeah- that's why the churches are full to bursting :P

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It isn't quite as easy as that! Have a look at Kalanke (Kalanke v. Freie Hansestadt Bremen) and see if you can understand it any better than I can! I think it says that where women are under-represented, you can chose a woman against a man if they are equally qualified, equally as suitable. What you cannot do is to select a woman where there is a better (even if only slightly) bloke!

That's quite correct. You can chose someone who is equally suitable. But the new bill, means you can actually discriminate from the outset. You will be able to advertise saying 'black or asian perferred' or 'female preferred', which at the moment, is illegal. Positive discrimination in favour of one, equates to negative against someone else.

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Can the new constitution be used to torpedo the "anti-punting" legislation in any way as a matter of interest ?

Interesting question. Punting is legal in some countries on the continent. But has the EU any actual laws on it?

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It's good that some Christians defy their church leaders and punt, despite the Church's anti-prostitution stance/propaganda.

if being a Christian means I have to accept a moral code I don't believe in I'd rather be an agnostic.

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I saw the said government minister today- walking near my office. If the judge does his job if she is found guilty she'll be walking a lot more.

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I saw the said government minister today- walking near my office. If the judge does his job if she is found guilty she'll be walking a lot more.

But what's the chance the slippery so and so will got off? Damned good I'd say; at worst a slap across the wrists. (I wish that read a slash across the wrists - I'd volunteer for the job.):o

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Does this woman ever get anything right? Every time she tries something, it blows up in her face. Her "Equality" bill is a joke.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1228892/Queens-Speech-Browns-ditch-fightback-unveils-plans-free-social-care.html?ITO=1490&referrer=yahoo

Mad Hattie's idea of "Equality"

Firms will be able to favour equally qualified women over men and black and Asian candidates over white people when recruiting.

They call it Positive Discrimination. Favouring either men over women, or black/asian over white is discrimination. If there's positive discrimination in favour of one group, there's negative towards another. Legalised Sexism and Racism?

Public bodies encouraged to give contracts to firms with more diverse workforces

Again, this discriminates against other businesses. This flies in the face of the competition rules from their beloved EU that Labour support so much. When the new constitution comes into force on 1st December, the EU laws automatically take precedence over national laws anyway.

This is only 2 points from the bill. It seems very ill thought out. If you're a white, British, working male, seems Hattie is determined to make life hard.

The problem isn't Ethnicity: it's class. When Politicians try to appeal to most Minority Ethnic Communities, they talk to them about the same issues as they do the white working class. The Minority Ethnic Middle Class, is seldom ever acknowledged by our Politicians, in spite of our Politicians.

The EHRC wanted to make sure that you couldn't discriminate a man for being old AND white, which the current legislation permits - you can't discriminate against a man for being old, OR white under the current legislation.

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In a show of sisterly concern, her Tory shadow, Theresa May, weighed in to deplore university research "which downplayed the extent of trafficking" for prostitution and was cited in Nick Davies's Guardian report along the same lines. Not only did Harman agree, (citing a dreadful case in passing), she revved up. "I take this opportunity to deplore the reporting in the Guardian ... those involved should be ashamed of themselves."

Unbelievable - so she condemns the research, not for the methods used, but purely because they came up with results that did not fit her view?

I suppose it's the same as Alan Johnson's approach on drugs :D

NB to New Labour bashers - take note that Theresa May is saying the same

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Unbelievable - so she condemns the research, not for the methods used, but purely because they came up with results that did not fit her view?

I suppose it's the same as Alan Johnson's approach on drugs :D

Wonderful, isn't it? When the evidence doesn't support the prejudice, condemn the evidence.

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Just like the climate change ain't happening brigade , then

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Just like the climate change ain't happening brigade , then

More complicated, surely? The world has been getting warmer. What's up for debate is the extent to which that reflects human activity. And that is even harder to pin down than the proportion of trafficked WGs!

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Is there any point to Hotwheels bashing now?

It was enjoyable for a while when there was something at stake, and Michael White does a lovely demolition job, but she got her bill through, albeit not completely unscathed, thanks to a coalition of ignorance and spite.

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