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Hello,

 

My midlife crisis has finally hit and i've wound up here. Hopefully planning my first adventure for next week.

 

Ive been reading a bit about scams and false profiles etc..

 

Ive seen a WG on the directory here on Punternet, but she has no reviews/feedback. 

 

What do you guys do? Do I just bite the bullet and dive in?

 

Is it safe to assume the Escorts here with De-luxe listings are safe?

 

I know im being overly cautious, but dont want to get stung on my first attempt.

 

Thanks..

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I would advise that for your first punt that you go with a WG that has good reviews on here. Check out the FRs - these will give you good feedback. It is often worth taking a punt on a WG who hasn't built up reviews so far, but I think that that comes once you yourself have got a few punts under your belt. You kinda build up a 6th sense on whether an unreviewed WG is worth seeing. But for your first one, choose somebody who comes highly recommended, and that way you can't go far wrong

 

Go ahead and take the plunge and have fun :)

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Vince, good advice above from LnS :-)

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You haven't mentioned your location vince, but if you're around London many people find using the larger agencies a useful way to avoid scams.

 

For European girls go for an agency such as Admiral, Diva or Sexy London Girls (ok there are plenty more but you've got close to 200 girls between these to choose from).  The agencies run too many girls to want any individual girl to put off clients.  It doesn't mean the girl you will get will be perfect, but my own experience is that most of these agency girls stack up well against your average and actual scams are seriously unlikely.

 

If you prefer an Asian punt, our connoisseurs here may direct you to Invasion Escorts or 007.

 

Plenty of good independents too, but you probably just need to be a little bit more thorough with your research.

 

Otherwise, as LnS said.

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Hello,

 

My midlife crisis has finally hit and i've wound up here. Hopefully planning my first adventure for next week.

 

Ive been reading a bit about scams and false profiles etc..

 

Ive seen a WG on the directory here on Punternet, but she has no reviews/feedback. 

 

What do you guys do? Do I just bite the bullet and dive in?

 

Is it safe to assume the Escorts here with De-luxe listings are safe?

 

I know im being overly cautious, but dont want to get stung on my first attempt.

 

Thanks..

I think it's fair to say that most experienced punters do their research, either here or on Another Website. You could just "bite the bullet and dive in", but I would echo the advice already given; go with a lady with good feedback.

 

Check out her field reports, ask questions here, or even give your preferred location and ask for recommendations.The trouble with asking for recommendations is that we don't know your punting proclivities.

 

Good luck with the start to what should be a great adventure.

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Hello,

 

My midlife crisis has finally hit and i've wound up here. Hopefully planning my first adventure for next week.

 

Ive been reading a bit about scams and false profiles etc..

 

Ive seen a WG on the directory here on Punternet, but she has no reviews/feedback. 

 

What do you guys do? Do I just bite the bullet and dive in?

 

Is it safe to assume the Escorts here with De-luxe listings are safe?

 

I know im being overly cautious, but dont want to get stung on my first attempt.

 

Thanks..

 

I'm not sure what you mean by De-luxe listings. A fancy website means nothing.

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Good advice above from some well-respected posters.

 

Why not compile a short-list and post it on this thread? You will probably get some useful guidance.

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Why not compile a short-list and post it on this thread? You will probably get some useful guidance.

Make that CERTAINLY

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I'm not sure what you mean by De-luxe listings. A fancy website means nothing.

 

I think the OP is referring to the deluxe adverts on the SP Database.

 

Nah, deluxe adverts mean zilch.

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Cheer guys.

Some useful tips, I'll have a mooch around and look for a few more positive feedbacks.

I'm in leeds so looking at West Yorkshire.

Just after a decent 20+ lady that isn't going to strip me then send her boyfriend in. Or worse still, not strip me. :o)

Thanks again, I'll keep you posted.

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Make that CERTAINLY

 

Well, the OP might have said "Isle of Skye" for example, which might have critically reduced the numbers with experience in the region. :D

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I think the OP is referring to the deluxe adverts on the SP Database.

 

Nah, deluxe adverts mean zilch.

Given the amount of time and effort Galahad puts into maintaining the integrity of the FRs and the site in general, you really think he'd accept adverts from scammers? 

You also have to have a proper website to advertise on here and I really can't see why anyone would go to all the trouble and expense of paying for a listing and a website if their intention was to nick a few quid off a punter when all they need to do is set up a fake profile (s) on AW. 

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Given the amount of time and effort Galahad puts into maintaining the integrity of the FRs and the site in general, you really think he'd accept adverts from scammers? 

You also have to have a proper website to advertise on here and I really can't see why anyone would go to all the trouble and expense of paying for a listing and a website if their intention was to nick a few quid off a punter when all they need to do is set up a fake profile (s) on AW. 

This simply isn't safe advice, I'm afraid. Most advertisers on the PN SP listings are indeed genuine, but a few scammers do slip through. I've never seen Galahad give any guarantee that each would be vetted, which isn't possible anyway.

 

Not all scammers go through AW - there are plenty of bogus 'agencies' with fancy websites bidding for a slice of the non-AW market.

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I understand IK Services have a good reputation in Leeds.

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This simply isn't safe advice, I'm afraid. Most advertisers on the PN SP listings are indeed genuine, but a few scammers do slip through. I've never seen Galahad give any guarantee that each would be vetted, which isn't possible anyway.

 

Not all scammers go through AW - there are plenty of bogus 'agencies' with fancy websites bidding for a slice of the non-AW market.

I think Sarita was telling you (as a moderator) with knowledge of how Galahad operates. 

 

So with your expert/inside knowledge how many scammers have you found on the SP list and did you report them?

 

To the OP, the best advice is do your homework, the guys here are really happy to share info if you want to ask about an individual lady. 

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This simply isn't safe advice, I'm afraid. Most advertisers on the PN SP listings are indeed genuine, but a few scammers do slip through. I've never seen Galahad give any guarantee that each would be vetted, which isn't possible anyway.

 

Not all scammers go through AW - there are plenty of bogus 'agencies' with fancy websites bidding for a slice of the non-AW market.

 

Yes I know there are loads of dodgy agencies but that's a separate issue. 

 

Firstly I must say that I've never heard of a punter being robbed by anyone who paid for PN advertising, which of course isn't to say it's never happened.

Secondly, If it did happen, there's a real human being to complain and report it to and they certainly wouldn't be able to take out another ad in a different name in order to do it again, as they can and do on AW. We aren't vetted but there's a paper trail back to us via our card payments which I imagine puts off anyone intent on criminal activity. 

 

Thirdly, as I already said, it makes no financial sense to shell out for a proper website, photos and advertising in order to rob a punter of a hundred or so quid, given you wouldn't be able to do it again. It costs much more than that to set yourself up if you do it properly. 

 

So, whilst there are no guarantees of pretty much anything in this business, I'd certainly advise a nervous newbie punter to pick a girl from a reputable website like this one rather than from aw. 

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You haven't mentioned your location vince, but if you're around London many people find using the larger agencies a useful way to avoid scams.

 

For European girls go for an agency such as Admiral, Diva or Sexy London Girls (ok there are plenty more but you've got close to 200 girls between these to choose from).  The agencies run too many girls to want any individual girl to put off clients.  It doesn't mean the girl you will get will be perfect, but my own experience is that most of these agency girls stack up well against your average and actual scams are seriously unlikely.

 

If you prefer an Asian punt, our connoisseurs here may direct you to Invasion Escorts or 007.

 

Plenty of good independents too, but you probably just need to be a little bit more thorough with your research.

 

Otherwise, as LnS said.

How do we know the poster only wants European/Asian?

We do not know his social group, he is older as he speaks of mid life whatits,he could be European, could be not,  he could want to try something VERY different to what he either has at home or sees day to day,or only wants to stay to what he knows or what he has desired after, but to only mention two social groups when there are three is interesting!

Just a thought. ^_^

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Hello,

 

My midlife crisis has finally hit and i've wound up here. Hopefully planning my first adventure for next week.

 

Ive been reading a bit about scams and false profiles etc..

 

Ive seen a WG on the directory here on Punternet, but she has no reviews/feedback. 

 

What do you guys do? Do I just bite the bullet and dive in?

 

Is it safe to assume the Escorts here with De-luxe listings are safe?

 

I know im being overly cautious, but dont want to get stung on my first attempt.

 

Thanks..

Take no notice of the bickering  posts..  none of it is constructive to someone asking for help.   Listen to Spanner2 ..  it's good advice.  Use a reputable agency and tell the person on the 'phone that it is your first time.

 

Have fun x

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I'm not sure what you mean by De-luxe listings. A fancy website means nothing.

The only difference between and escort with a basic listing and a deluxe listing on here is £15 per month. So no, no difference whatsoever, unless you think £15 is a lot

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Hello,

 

My midlife crisis has finally hit and i've wound up here. Hopefully planning my first adventure for next week.

 

Ive been reading a bit about scams and false profiles etc..

 

Ive seen a WG on the directory here on Punternet, but she has no reviews/feedback. 

 

What do you guys do? Do I just bite the bullet and dive in?

 

Is it safe to assume the Escorts here with De-luxe listings are safe?

 

I know im being overly cautious, but dont want to get stung on my first attempt.

 

Thanks..

Went through something similar and i just bit the bullet as it were.Found a profile on AW,called the number and popped along.At the time i didnt know about being wary of new accounts with 0fb and now i realise quite how lucky i was seeing some of the stories people have to tell.You then also have the fun of location,and there are some very dodgy and or bait locations.

I have never used an agency but i'm, presuming,for the purposes of repeat trade they try for decent,discrete locations.For this reason i'm going to parrot what everybody else has and say use either an established reputable agency,or a high fb'd indie.Also good advice with the let her know it's your first punt.That way if you do get a little over nervous she knows thats why and its not because youre some kind of crazy :)

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How do we know the poster only wants European/Asian?

We do not know his social group, he is older as he speaks of mid life whatits,he could be European, could be not,  he could want to try something VERY different to what he either has at home or sees day to day,or only wants to stay to what he knows or what he has desired after, but to only mention two social groups when there are three is interesting!

Just a thought. ^_^

Quite right Somekindagirl, but I couldn't think of any agencies specialising in American escorts! :P

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Well, the OP might have said "Isle of Skye" for example, which might have critically reduced the numbers with experience in the region. :D

At least he would have got a response suggesting that he move house!!

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Yes I know there are loads of dodgy agencies but that's a separate issue. 

 

Firstly I must say that I've never heard of a punter being robbed by anyone who paid for PN advertising, which of course isn't to say it's never happened.

Secondly, If it did happen, there's a real human being to complain and report it to and they certainly wouldn't be able to take out another ad in a different name in order to do it again, as they can and do on AW. We aren't vetted but there's a paper trail back to us via our card payments which I imagine puts off anyone intent on criminal activity. 

 

Thirdly, as I already said, it makes no financial sense to shell out for a proper website, photos and advertising in order to rob a punter of a hundred or so quid, given you wouldn't be able to do it again. It costs much more than that to set yourself up if you do it properly. 

 

So, whilst there are no guarantees of pretty much anything in this business, I'd certainly advise a nervous newbie punter to pick a girl from a reputable website like this one rather than from aw. 

Looks like a case of crossed wires, Sarita. It seems you have been focussing exclusively on the (extremely low) risk of the OP actually getting robbed. On that score, you are of course right, and the already minimal risk is far lower if you pick from traceable advertisers on here than from AW.

 

Given the OP's broader question - who can you trust? - I was applying a generally accepted definition of "scammer" that includes Bait&Switch/stolen photo operators. That more common kind of scammer still succeeds in getting adverts on here. A current example is Asian Elite. Anyone who knows the London Asian market can see there are no genuine profiles on there, all the gallery photos being stolen glamour shots.

 

In cases like that, the disclaimer at the top of the PN SP Directory, saying that PN doesn't guarantee the accuracy of listings, needs to be borne in mind.

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If someone sees a listing by an escort or establishment that the strongly suspect or know to be scamming, bait and switch or just basically dishonest in an important way then they have a responsibility to report that to G and to give your evidence. He can then take a look and investigate as best he can. 

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Looks like a case of crossed wires, Sarita. It seems you have been focussing exclusively on the (extremely low) risk of the OP actually getting robbed. On that score, you are of course right, and the already minimal risk is far lower if you pick from traceable advertisers on here than from AW.

 

Given the OP's broader question - who can you trust? - I was applying a generally accepted definition of "scammer" that includes Bait&Switch/stolen photo operators. That more common kind of scammer still succeeds in getting adverts on here. A current example is Asian Elite. Anyone who knows the London Asian market can see there are no genuine profiles on there, all the gallery photos being stolen glamour shots.

 

In cases like that, the disclaimer at the top of the PN SP Directory, saying that PN doesn't guarantee the accuracy of listings, needs to be borne in mind.

Well I was really responding to the question posed in the OP which asks "if it's safe to assume that all escorts with deluxe listings here are safe?"

 

By that I assumed he meant independent escorts, not agencies. 

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