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Have You Ever Beaten Up A Client ?

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With all these threads about "respect" this and that... 

 

Have any of you given a punter a good hiding ?

 

Because I have... some "****" tried to beat me up and had his hands around my neck and frankly I gave him such a kicking he thought he was going to die... 

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With all these threads about "respect" this and that... 

 

Have any of you given a punter a good hiding ?

 

Because I have... some "****" tried to beat me up and had his hands around my neck and frankly I gave him such a kicking he thought he was going to die... 

 

Well done.

 

This is a side often/conveniently forgotten by many.

 

Did u call police?  Awkward one to consider, but may stop him trying it on another WG.

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Well done.

 

This is a side often/conveniently forgotten by many.

 

Did u call police?  Awkward one to consider, but may stop him trying it on another WG.

There's a slight problem with the scenario the OP was in, if you use excessive force you may well find yourself on charges yourself. The advice I've received, and the advice I give is only resort to violent physical force in the last instance, the first is do enough to get away and get help - and that's also been the advice from people trained to fight. Obviously in the heat of the moment it is going to be something very difficult to control.

 

Sorry you've been in such a situation Inna, but I don't think beating someone up is anything to be encouraged.

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Me being a cabbie,had a punter giving it large one night,being aggressive and like,so I pulled over and told him I wasn't taking him any further ,he smacked me in the side of the head. I got out and confronted him.he took another pop at me,which I ducked out of way,and landed a right hook,and left him flat out on the pavement.Well he wasn't to know I did a bit of boxing in my youth

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I have to agree with strawberry.  The problem is rights and the interpritation of the law.  I followed a case in London a few years ago which made me dislike the concept of law and justice.  A married couple who both taught martial arts come home and find someone in their house.  The husband goes to the window (which is broken) and the wife to the front door.  They get in and confront the intruder.  They close in on him and are both trained to disarm someone.  The theft takes a sword thats pinned to the wall and goes at the wife. The husband goes in and instead of disarmarming him, attacks kicking him so hard he breaks several ribs and is knocked out. Several days later the husband is arrested and charged with excessive force and assult on the thief.  He spent only a few weeks in prison and a lot of community service.

 

If anyone came at someone I cared about with a sword they would be luck to be breathing.

 

Also remember the farmer who shot those burgulars a few years back.  He was being robbed and broken into for months.  Now I don't think he should have shot that kid as he was running away but he was terrified and I do understand why he done it. 

 

I think Inna you were right to have done as you did but the law and more importantly the defending lawyer would see otherwise.

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When you are an escort you obviously never know who (or what?) you are going to open your door to on a first booking.    Even then the "gentleman" who walks into your hallway might become someone else entirely a few minutes later when you are both starkers in the bedroom.   Hopefully it's a very rare occurrence but perhaps it would be a good idea if all ladies had an exit strategy in place should they need it? 

 

I know that sometimes a punter can get strange vibes but I think the chances of the punter being compromised (provided that they have done their homework properly) are less likely than an escort being put in an awkward position.    Even if the escort managed to get in a few kicks, as Inna apparently did, and scratches I think that the odds are heavily in favour of the punter walking out and the escort going to hospital.

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With all these threads about "respect" this and that... 

 

Have any of you given a punter a good hiding ?

 

Because I have... some "****" tried to beat me up and had his hands around my neck and frankly I gave him such a kicking he thought he was going to die... 

Atta girl !!

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There's a slight problem with the scenario the OP was in, if you use excessive force you may well find yourself on charges yourself. The advice I've received, and the advice I give is only resort to violent physical force in the last instance, the first is do enough to get away and get help - and that's also been the advice from people trained to fight. Obviously in the heat of the moment it is going to be something very difficult to control.

 

Sorry you've been in such a situation Inna, but I don't think beating someone up is anything to be encouraged.

I just can't see most people contemplating foolish laws while being choked.

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you seem more than a bit mental Inna - you can be sure I wont be coming to see you at any point in the future  :ph34r: ever.....

 

and BTW I dont condone violence of any sort

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Good on you.To quote Geoff Thompson.Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six

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No I have never beaten up a client but I did have a tussle with one particularly ridiculous man who demanded I do the outcall for half price because he "knew my boss" once I was installed behind his locked front door. I tussled with him, he tussled with driver, police tussled with him in the end. No one was hurt.

 

There is a little toad who frequents the mk parlours occasionally, too infrequently for anyone to remember his face unfortunately but he has a penchant for biting girls, he's mentioned in the dangerous punters threads. He bit my nipple so hard there were  4 perfect teeth marks and lots and lots and lots of blood.  He decided that it was probably best he try to rush out of the door once he realise that I didnt find this personally acceptable and whilst I was mopping up the blood  but I managed to shove him down on the bed, get his trousers and pants off and give him a full teeth blow job. I think this was rather generous of me especially when I almost let him cum by finishing off with a deathgrib hand job. Horseriding hands, strong grip!. He looked like he wanted to cry, this cheered me up a lot. Then he left. 

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When your in the position where somebody has their hands around your throat and you fear for your life, then as much as it's easy for others to say 'you should abide by the law'  it's easier said than done.   It's a natural reaction to kick out and kick out bloody hard. The law won't always come down hard on you either.

 

That's exactly what my abuser did, he had a heart problem too, had a box in his chest and was on blood thinners but I kicked out like you wouldn't believe.  I could have killed him, but then he could have killed me.  He used the extensive bruising on his chest as part of his defence (it was worse because of the warfarin) but he was the one that got a lengthy prison sentence not me.

 

Since then I have had self defence lessons and wish with all my heart I'd done it before I started working (it always happens to everyone else not you right).

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With all these threads about "respect" this and that... 

 

Have any of you given a punter a good hiding ?

 

Because I have... some "****" tried to beat me up and had his hands around my neck and frankly I gave him such a kicking he thought he was going to die... 

 

I understand what everyone says about using "minimum force necessary", but if someone's trying to beat you up and has their hands round your neck then you don't stop to think "oh, what's the appropriate level of force needed here?". You just do everything you can to defend yourself. If that means giving him a kicking then to me that's absolutely fine.

 

Well done Inna! Hope you were ok afterwards.

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There's a slight problem with the scenario the OP was in, if you use excessive force you may well find yourself on charges yourself. The advice I've received, and the advice I give is only resort to violent physical force in the last instance, the first is do enough to get away and get help - and that's also been the advice from people trained to fight. Obviously in the heat of the moment it is going to be something very difficult to control. Sorry you've been in such a situation Inna, but I don't think beating someone up is anything to be encouraged.

The Dutch police is very strict about physical self-defense when you have been attacked. There is "gepast geweld" (appropriate or adjusted violence) and that is to disable the attacker and put yourself in an advantage. When he/she is disabled more violence is cald "excessief geweld" (you use more violence than necessary) and that is a crime. A shop owner got in problems when - according to the police - he used more violence against the thieves than was appropriate.

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When your in the position where somebody has their hands around your throat and you fear for your life, then as much as it's easy for others to say 'you should abide by the law'  it's easier said than done.   It's a natural reaction to kick out and kick out bloody hard. The law won't always come down hard on you either.

 

That's exactly what my abuser did, he had a heart problem too, had a box in his chest and was on blood thinners but I kicked out like you wouldn't believe.  I could have killed him, but then he could have killed me.  He used the extensive bruising on his chest as part of his defence (it was worse because of the warfarin) but he was the one that got a lengthy prison sentence not me.

 

Since then I have had self defence lessons and wish with all my heart I'd done it before I started working (it always happens to everyone else not you right).

Did you not post recently that your partner was always within 5 metres of you?

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The Dutch police is very strict about physical self-defense when you have been attacked. There is "gepast geweld" (appropriate or adjusted violence) and that is to disable the attacker and put yourself in an advantage. When he/she is disabled more violence is cald "excessief geweld" (you use more violence than necessary) and that is a crime. A shop owner got in problems when - according to the police - he used more violence against the thieves than was appropriate.

A woman when faced with a hulking great man is unlikely to be able to get the better of him using restraint. She would probably have to result to clumping him with something to knock him out or disable him to be in the position of advantage and in no further danger and able to even get to her phone. What would they do if a tiny 5ft woman was attacked by a 6ft brick shithouse of a man. Would stabbing him in the stomach be classed as excessive force when she was scared for her life and being beaten and thats the only bit she could reach. Lets face it, stab in in the arm or leg and he can still kick the crap out of you ...the Dutch police can suck my non existent balls as its easy to say "oo thats excessive when you were not there at the time" .

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Did you not post recently that your partner was always within 5 metres of you?

 

When I worked as Heather and Hannah I was married and during that time my husband was never very far away 'that was for well over 14 years with no real problems'.  We split and I came back as Holly after the split and a large weight loss (only for a couple of months as it worked out before this happened) those two months were the only time I worked without having someone close. 

 

You know what happened to me, its common knowledge now, he's in prison and I've been vocal about it so that others don't fall foul of what I did.  I did kick hell out of him, it's not something I'm proud of and to be honest my use of force was as upsetting to me as what he did in the first place.

 

Would I do it again?  Yes I probably would, because in reflection it was a knee jerk reaction to what was being done to me and doubt I could stop myself.  I'd defy anyone not to do what Inna and I have done when put in that position and can guarantee many others will have done it too.

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Me being a cabbie,had a punter giving it large one night,being aggressive and like,so I pulled over and told him I wasn't taking him any further ,he smacked me in the side of the head. I got out and confronted him.he took another pop at me,which I ducked out of way,and landed a right hook,and left him flat out on the pavement.Well he wasn't to know I did a bit of boxing in my youth

 

I hope he does not remember your cabbie number................

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With all these threads about "respect" this and that... 

 

Have any of you given a punter a good hiding ?

 

Because I have... some "****" tried to beat me up and had his hands around my neck and frankly I gave him such a kicking he thought he was going to die... 

 

Hi Inna,

 

Good thread. Sorry for your experience- did you get the police/anyone else involved with altercation ?

 

 

 Imo I do not condone violence in any way, shape or form, during time as escort I have never been in a position where I could not get out of- but have been in some scary instances at times, but not life threatening.

 

I do know of woman that have beaten to a pulp- mainly from a pimp and one woman who was murdered from her boyfriend/pimp approx 6 years ago-

who was a very lovely, beautiful EE girl, but was in a violent relationship with a gym addicted steroid freak, - which was very sad.   

 

Yes there is the other side, flip side to everything- the side that is very ugly. Not much is spoken about this as usually gloss over.

You raise a good point, and yes, there are people with violent tendency on both side of fence, although most and majority of clients I found/find are just looking for a nice enjoyable and relaxing time, so not in a 'hostile' mode/mood- but as with everything there are the odd few clients that are unsavoury characters

and looking to take their anger out on someone.

 

It is good for a person to have and keep their wits about them, if anything turns dodgy. Being safe, feeling secure is the upmost importance in this business.

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According to the USA laws it seems you have the right to shoot someone in self defense even if they are totally unaramed - of course we are in the UK which does protect the rights of violent criminals - but I don't really see any problem with what Inna did - she would have to knock him out for fear that he could recover and throttle her.

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With all these threads about "respect" this and that... 

 

Have any of you given a punter a good hiding ?

 

Because I have... some "****" tried to beat me up and had his hands around my neck and frankly I gave him such a kicking he thought he was going to die... 

 

 

Beating somebody up "till he thought he was going to die",will get you in a legal situation that wont be as straightforward as you may think...

 

If he decided to go to the Police with  serious visible physical injuries (while you have none),guess who would be in the brown stuff..

 

It may be down to his word against yours as to whether he had his hands around your neck or not,but with the injuries you have inflicted upon him the concept of "minimum force" would come into play... 

 

Do you make a habit of it...??

 

You certainly have a penchant for starting shall we say "provocative" threads...

 

Flame away......

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With all these threads about "respect" this and that... 

 

Have any of you given a punter a good hiding ?

 

Because I have... some "****" tried to beat me up and had his hands around my neck and frankly I gave him such a kicking he thought he was going to die... 

 

Before checking your site I was expecting someone who would not look out of place on Prisoner Cell Block H.

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Before checking your site I was expecting someone who would not look out of place on Prisoner Cell Block H.

I'm looking forward to that episode! ;)

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I think if Inna had worded her opening question differently then HungDong and one or two others may have had more sympathy.

 

Maybe asking "have any of you been in such a position with a client that you had to use force to escape harm or injury" .... something more along those lines.

 

Thankfully I have never felt threatened or in danger and long may that continue. I know a very few ladies have been confronted with nutcases and abusive guys and to have to think in a split second how to deal with it must be awful.

 

If I was being throttled or beaten and I could escape in any way then of course I would do it.... whether that was using my teeth/nails.... picking up anything to hand to disable him............. whatever it would take to stay conscious and unharmed. The thinking (did I just break the law?) would come later!

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