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Online Porn Curb: Will It Affect Access To This, Escorts And Other Adult Sites?

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In which case we will all need to opt out in any case?

 

What would we tell the Wife/Partner?

 

 

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Another transparent early step of many towards the gradual erosion of civil liberties

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It might depend on how the new law is drafted and if it says "Porn" how that word is defined in law.

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I would think it wise for any escorts or agencys to remove any moving media or links to it from their websites if they crack down on online porn. 

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So Cameron is young, clean and inexperienced, also desperately naive. It upsets his tummy that the Judges in Strassburg think prisoners should be allowed to vote. He (along, to be fair, with Labour) thinks "life should mean life".

 

Give me back the grizzled, cynical politicians of my youth (who to be fair to young Cam & his best friend Clegg, had been through the educational experience of war).

 

I think that the "name & shame" brigade will require ISPs to produce lists of all the pervs in each district who have opted in to receive porn.

 

Next of course, while few among us really object to "extreme porn" being banned, we'll find that Hattie and gang point out that all paid sex is rape, and that rape is "extreme porn" (neither being true, but who ever let truth worry Hattie) so that Pnet is "extreme porn". Yippee!

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Affect.

Quite right, sorry.

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Will it actually happen? Cameron is full of hot air, see's himself as our moral leader, if he doesn't like it...neither can we.

We are supposed to be a democratic country, yet led by a dictator.

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I see no concern about an attempt to save youngsters from exposure to some form of extreme porn - was talking about it to an SP over the weekend.

 

But how to do it appropriately to draw the line between parents being able to protect their children from exposure (and children being able to avoid it) and over-restrictive repression of freedoms is surely beyond any current technology.

 

Everyone having to opt in at east gives a measure of control to those who run households so that principle seems fine but the practicality an impossibility.

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Won't work anyway. Especially if they block the sites the way they do now with torrent sites. It is easy to get round in seconds. 

 

Cameron should be more concerned with sorting the country out rather than online porn.

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There will be some direct effects for ladies to deal with, if they have hard core pictures or movies on their websites and/or on their AW profiles.

 

The management of AW will need to police their site, after considering the implications of allowing "porn" style media on individual profiles, the whole site might be blocked and that will hurt revenue streams for themselves and ladies with more moderate profile.

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Will it possible for the adult members of the household to opt to see sites such as this and AW whilst using parental controls to prevent the children from seeing "porn" ?

 

Will opting to see sites like this label the household as "pornographers", and therefore needing to be watched more closely, and if so, who exactly will be doing the watching ?

 

I'm very much against sites where "hard" ( i.e. violent or involving abuse, particularly of children ) porn can be found, but surely sites like PunterNet are way different from those ?

 

I see here and some other forums as being a harmless exchange of views and information among consenting adults, so not falling into the category of "porn" at all.

 

Am I just naive ?

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Affect.

 

Possibly the best thing about being a Moderator is being able to edit thread titles :D

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Removing adult images will not make a difference. The ISP's already have filters for adult content, which block punternet, porn sites, aw and most escort sites. By October the Gov wants the ISP's to make the default position of the filters "On" instead of "Off" So the plan is not to to use new filters, but the filters that all ISP have.

 

I assume you can find out what sites will be blocked now by changing your ISP settings to filter adult content. You will see it pretty much blanket filters everything.   

 

From Oct new connections  will have to call your ISP and Opt In to receiving adult content. Current subscribers will be sent notifications telling them the filter will be applied and they have to "opt in" if they want to revoke the filter.

 

As Irgendeiner says no doubt the ISP's will be required to list those who "Opt In" and this will be available to the government departments.

 

It's basically a shaming tactic, to conflate online porn/adult content with vile illegal content and abuse images. I see the purpose of this legislation is to get a "names/customer list" from the ISPs of who has opted in, which can later be used against you in whatever shape or form they choose. 

 

There could be consequences for opting in (in the future i'm willing to bet on it), e.g. If you appear on a list you may not be able to work at a school, social care etc due to  "guilt by association" 

 

In any case this is happening and there isn't much anyone can do about it.

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Next of course, while few among us really object to "extreme porn" being banned, we'll find that Hattie and gang point out that all paid sex is rape, and that rape is "extreme porn" (neither being true, but who ever let truth worry Hattie) so that Pnet is "extreme porn". Yippee!

I object to 'extreme' or any other porn made by and for the consumption of consenting adults being banned, provided that's all it is and not a depiction/record of sexual activity between non-consenting parties such as children or animals. My confusion with this news today is that I thought it already was banned five years ago?

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I object to 'extreme' or any other porn made by and for the consumption of consenting adults being banned, provided that's all it is and not a depiction/record of sexual activity between non-consenting parties such as children or animals. My confusion with this news today is that I thought it already was banned five years ago?

 

you really are confused

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you really are confused

Yes, I am. The law I was referring to (Section 63 of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008) was exacted in January 2009, so I'm puzzled as to what is being added here. I admit that I don't know what Cameron's contribution is, because I find it near-impossible to remain awake whenever he opens his mouth.

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Yes, I am. The law I was referring to (Section 63 of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008) was exacted in January 2009, so I'm puzzled as to what is being added here. I admit that I don't know what Cameron's contribution is, because I find it near-impossible to remain awake whenever he opens his mouth.

 

 

That is statute to do with UK Law, criminalising such images.  How they apply that, I have no idea, perhaps a group of judges sit round a table all day and watch weird porn and decide.

 

 ISP's already filter out such content and  quite rightly filter anything they think would fall foul of child abuse laws.   All major ISP's have a system to avoid falling foul of the law regarding this.

 

The system to be enacted is to set content filters by default to block adult websites, that's  "normal" adult content, these are two different issues.

 

However Cameron has successfully got his ISP block by conflating two issues in the name of "save the children"

 

However it's little concern to me personally as I don't advertise adult services on a website.

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I admit that I don't know what Cameron's contribution is, because I find it near-impossible to remain awake whenever he opens his mouth.

 

 

You too? I try to change channel before I doze off. I rather think that he doesn't actually know either, but is sure that he must make one.

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I fancied reading a bit of pulp fiction whilst sitting in the sun eating my lunch today...and, as usual, The Mail didn't disappoint.

 

So, to crack the disease which is child abuse, violence against women and related porn related thereto (which let me say right now, I find totally abhorrent), the caped crusader has issued a diktat that all on-line porn is to be in effect censored by the application of a filter that one has to opt out of.

 

I thought Blair's nanny state was pretty bad, but this leaves them standing.

 

How will this pan out in practice? I share our home PC with my missus ( no kids). After P-day, or whatever, if I want to view porn ( or access PN; AW, say for example?) I will have to give my consent and an email comes back which my wife sees...question time.

 

Am I worrying unnecessarily, or is it just an experienced punter's habit of covering every trace of this hobby of ours??

 

How do others see this shaping up? Back to ads in the paper/ cards ( no pictures, of course in phone boxes - whatever they were)

 

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I am really worried about this because websites will not be visible until you opt-out.  Surely this opt-out is there to provide evidence that you opted and create surveillance around it to see your activity.

 

This could then be used to track online "movements" of the website to as evidence that SPs are "running a brothel" as SPs will surely be tracked as well.  Futhermore, SPs will have to opt-out by default otherwise they could not see their own website.

 

Ironicly, it could block many innocent sites like twitter as there are raunchy pics from SPs there or facebook.

 

But what next? I am a member of the campaign Movement for a UK Republic, used to be in No2ID, etc so are these going to be tracked as potentially "revolutionary terrorist groups"?  Where does it end?

 

I personally believe that the two cases being used on a "save the children" slogan would have had the same outcome wether online porn was available or not.  Those are sick diseased minds and nothing could have stopped those issues until it was too late.  The campaigns should be to attack the creators and promoters of child/animal porn and put those in prison.  For the viewers I would advocate research and proper treatment to be done as a joint thing between court and mental health professionals.  It should not be prison and ruined life for a first instance, especially if it was somebody needing help or who had been a victim themselves.  It is well known that victims of abuse are more likely to be abusers themselves if not treated and supported properly.  And both of Cameron's have that in common.

 

It is not an apology for abusers, but I see the good in people and would prefer to be generous, rather than judgmental and nannying.

 

It just makes me angry that as we are now in the safest era ever for children, government is passing protective legislation that does not deal with the issue and based on very dodge information paid and sponsored for by certain interests which will provide the answers they want.

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Possibly the best thing about being a Moderator is being able to edit thread titles :D

Is that the affect or effect they have?

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It`s another Cameron headline seeker. When asked by Jeremy Vine on BBC Radio2 today what he considered was porn he replied "It`s different things to different people",thereby avoiding the issue and putting the responsibility on Internet Providers to impose a block. Another typical Cameron "I Promise" and passing the buck to someone else in case it backfires.

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I fancied reading a bit of pulp fiction whilst sitting in the sun eating my lunch today...and, as usual, The Mail didn't disappoint.

 

So, to crack the disease which is child abuse, violence against women and related porn related thereto (which let me say right now, I find totally abhorrent), the caped crusader has issued a diktat that all on-line porn is to be in effect censored by the application of a filter that one has to opt out of.

 

I thought Blair's nanny state was pretty bad, but this leaves them standing.

 

How will this pan out in practice? I share our home PC with my missus ( no kids). After P-day, or whatever, if I want to view porn ( or access PN; AW, say for example?) I will have to give my consent and an email comes back which my wife sees...question time.

 

Am I worrying unnecessarily, or is it just an experienced punter's habit of covering every trace of this hobby of ours??

 

How do others see this shaping up? Back to ads in the paper/ cards ( no pictures, of course in phone boxes - whatever they were)

 

 

The adult content filters are designed to block just that "adult content" that would include, pn/aw/porn sites/ etc...

 

From October new customers will have the filter set to on to block by default. Existing customers will get letters telling them that they must tell their ISP if they want to "Opt In" to adult website. For most single guys/gals this isn't really an issue.

 

As you have a family you might want the option of having the filter on as would many parents so it's a bit of an awkward situation.

 

Get a tablet/ and a PAYG/contract  3G connection and you should be able to look at what you want on that connection while keeping the adult content filter on for your family.

 

In the future, when Labour get into power I think aw/pn will just be filtered out by the ISP's so that there will be no option to access these sites adult content filter or not.

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