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What Happens To The Clients When A Place Gets Raided?

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I was just wondering what happens to clients who are at a massage parlour (or visiting a incall location) when it gets raided by the police?

 

 

for instance

-what do they do to the client?

-do they let him/her go ?

-are they charged?

-are they taken to jail?

 

 

This is UK and England question its my first time posting but I have been to various locations before.

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I was just wondering what happens to clients who are at a massage parlour (or visiting a incall location) when it gets raided by the police?

 

 

for instance

-what do they do to the client?

-do they let him/her go ?

-are they charged?

-are they taken to jail?

 

 

This is UK and England question its my first time posting but I have been to various locations before.

If the coppers are bent, then you get taking to a room, the door closed and done up the ass

 

They then take pictures of the act so that you will not tell anyone.

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I was just wondering what happens to clients who are at a massage parlour (or visiting a incall location) when it gets raided by the police?

 

 

for instance

-what do they do to the client?

-do they let him/her go ?

-are they charged?

-are they taken to jail?

 

 

This is UK and England question its my first time posting but I have been to various locations before.

 

I assume you know that kerb crawling and seeing a coerced prostitute is illegal, so if you do those things you will get your collar felt.

 

If the escort is working alone all is quite legal.  So unless she is doing something else illegal then plod wont be interested in you.

 

If you are in a parlour neither you nor the girl are breaking the law. The management of the brothel are tho.  Most likely you will just be told to get your kit on and leave.  A brothel is a place where 2 or more girls work, even if they do not work at the same time.

 

as you are not committing an offence you cannot be charged or taken to jail.

 

http://oldestprof.com/index.php/sexlaws

 

but if there is anything else going on (drugs for example) then the rules change.

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I was just wondering what happens to clients who are at a massage parlour (or visiting a incall location) when it gets raided by the police?

 

 

for instance

-what do they do to the client?

-do they let him/her go ?

-are they charged?

-are they taken to jail?

 

 

This is UK and England question its my first time posting but I have been to various locations before.

 

They put slivers of bamboo under your nails and light them... then they take you to Harriet Harman for re-education 

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I assume you know that kerb crawling and seeing a coerced prostitute is illegal, so if you do those things you will get your collar felt.

 

If the escort is working alone all is quite legal.  So unless she is doing something else illegal then plod wont be interested in you.

 

If you are in a parlour neither you nor the girl are breaking the law. The management of the brothel are tho.  Most likely you will just be told to get your kit on and leave.  A brothel is a place where 2 or more girls work, even if they do not work at the same time.

 

as you are not committing an offence you cannot be charged or taken to jail.

 

http://oldestprof.com/index.php/sexlaws

 

but if there is anything else going on (drugs for example) then the rules change.

Indeed, i also add punting with an underage girl which of course is a crime, with coercion the punter has no way of knowing unless the woman tells him she is being coerced obviously, still an offence though in theory with not being aware not a defence as its a strict liability offence thanks to Harriet Harridan.

 

Going on posts i have read the police usually ask for the punters name and address, whatever you do dont give false details as that can land a person in police bother. My advice is to only give these details and refuse to say anything else until you have spoken to a Solicitor. The reason for this is say you admit you had paid the WG for sex but it turned out she had been coerced or was underage  that wouldnt necessarily be revealed on the day of the raid, far better to seek legal advice in my view just in case.

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I was just wondering what happens to clients who are at a massage parlour (or visiting a incall location) when it gets raided by the police?

 

 

for instance

-what do they do to the client?

-do they let him/her go ?

-are they charged?

-are they taken to jail?

 

 

This is UK and England question its my first time posting but I have been to various locations before.

 

It's not illegal to visit a brothel or a prostitute. In the rare event that a client is caught up in a raid then they'll usually be asked to get dressed and leave. Occasionally they might be asked to give their name and address in case the police want to contact them at a later stage.

 

In 2010 a new offence was introduced making it a criminal offence to pay for the sexual offences of a prostitute subjected to force. I haven't come across a single case reported in the media of anyone actually having been convicted of the offence.

 

There are several similar threads in the "Legalities and Legislation" section, including these:

 

http://www.punternet.com/forum/index.php/topic/27620-what-actually-happens-to-a-punter-when-plod-shows-up/#entry459102

 

http://www.punternet.com/forum/index.php/topic/24079-police-raid-what-happens/

 

http://www.punternet.com/forum/index.php/topic/16545-brothel-parlour-raided-by-police-whilst-your-inside-it/

 

http://www.punternet.com/forum/index.php/topic/12788-what-happens-if-there-is-a-raid/

 

http://www.punternet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/6317-legal-advice-request/

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Punters commit no offence so long as the women are 18 or over, and are not forced coerced or trafficked. Unless there's some kerfuffle or they do something daft, there should be no reason for them to be arrested or put in jail.

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From experience, albeit in a flat, you first of all nearly shit yourself then hopefully you show yourself to be completely calm and not wanting to rile the police.

 

I was asked if I was there for prostitution and I said i was not going to lie to them. They were satisfied with that wording. One ot the two police, who was assuming I was undressing to start the punt said he hoped I didn't pay till the end whereas i was dressing to finish the punt and now get out asap and of course I paid upfront but didn't bother explaining how it works the same way in all the hundreds of times I had done it...

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Indeed, i also add punting with an underage girl which of course is a crime, with coercion the punter has no way of knowing unless the woman tells him she is being coerced obviously, still an offence though in theory with not being aware not a defence as its a strict liability offence thanks to Harriet Harridan.

 

Going on posts i have read the police usually ask for the punters name and address, whatever you do dont give false details as that can land a person in police bother. My advice is to only give these details and refuse to say anything else until you have spoken to a Solicitor. The reason for this is say you admit you had paid the WG for sex but it turned out she had been coerced or was underage  that wouldnt necessarily be revealed on the day of the raid, far better to seek legal advice in my view just in case.

I agree that lying to the police isn't going to be a good idea. My understanding though is that the police can ony require you to identify yourself if they reasonably suspect you of a crime. They can hardly expect you to "account for your actions" which might be another reason to identify yourself. As you haven't committed a crime do you really have to identify yourself?

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I agree that lying to the police isn't going to be a good idea. My understanding though is that the police can ony require you to identify yourself if they reasonably suspect you of a crime. They can hardly expect you to "account for your actions" which might be another reason to identify yourself. As you haven't committed a crime do you really have to identify yourself?

According to posts i have read some punters have been asked for their personal details following a raid. With the shock and/or embarrassment some would undoubtedly feel they just wanted to get out asap of course, so if giving their personal details ensures they get out asap they might decide to give them if asked.

 

I am not a legal expert but at the time of the raid the police wouldnt necessarily know if a crime has been committed, it might take a while to establish a WG was say 15 but advertised as 18 for example. The norm is certainly for the police to be raiding to get the owner and any staff that actively help run the brothel, excluding the WGs obviously, not to nick punters, i was just saying in my view its best to say nothing more than give your details just in case until you get legal advice.

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I was just wondering what happens to clients who are at a massage parlour (or visiting a incall location) when it gets raided by the police?

 

 

for instance

-what do they do to the client?

-do they let him/her go ?

-are they charged?

-are they taken to jail?

 

 

This is UK and England question its my first time posting but I have been to various locations before.

 

In my case... Absolutely nothing... I was at Guildford Gold in November last year, was in the room with Kimberley (Honey from Annabellas...and aka Tiffany Kingston - Porn Star), We were interrupted by 'Georgia' who just burst in the room and shouted 'Police are here' . Kimberley jumped up and tried to hide in the small wardrobe , (She didn't fit... boobs too big and we couldn't stop laughing after that.)

 

The Police were professional and were making sure none of the girls were being made to work and were there willingly... "Oh yes", said Kimberley (still stark naked) "willingly with him he's amazing"..... I just went Scarlet and said She was "too kind".., I'd got my trousers back on by then.. I did try and nick Kimberleys bra as a souvenir but she saw it sticking out of my pocket

 

Joking apart, It was no big deal, no drugs, no owner to bust (She was there but said she was 'the maid' and just worked a few hours).. I answered truthfully my name and why I was there. Police said thanks and left soon after.

 

Only down side was they asked GG to stop there and then due to neighbour complaints,  and I was unable to continue/finish.. GG moved to Sandhurst Road a couple days later and off again, I watched the post carefully for a couple of weeks, but nothing..

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In my case... Absolutely nothing... I was at Guildford Gold in November last year, was in the room with Kimberley (Honey from Annabellas...and aka Tiffany Kingston - Porn Star), We were interrupted by 'Georgia' who just burst in the room and shouted 'Police are here' . Kimberley jumped up and tried to hide in the small wardrobe , (She didn't fit... boobs too big and we couldn't stop laughing after that.)

 

The Police were professional and were making sure none of the girls were being made to work and were there willingly... "Oh yes", said Kimberley (still stark naked) "willingly with him he's amazing"..... I just went Scarlet and said She was "too kind".., I'd got my trousers back on by then.. I did try and nick Kimberleys bra as a souvenir but she saw it sticking out of my pocket

 

Joking apart, It was no big deal, no drugs, no owner to bust (She was there but said she was 'the maid' and just worked a few hours).. I answered truthfully my name and why I was there. Police said thanks and left soon after.

 

Only down side was they asked GG to stop there and then due to neighbour complaints,  and I was unable to continue/finish.. GG moved to Sandhurst Road a couple days later and off again, I watched the post carefully for a couple of weeks, but nothing..

Why did she try to hide, she wasnt doing anything wrong at all. The police presumably would of known who the owner was from intelligence gathering, mind you perhaps they didnt have anyone intelligent enough to gather it. Glad to hear nothing came of it apart from the raid itself.

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If the coppers are bent, then you get taking to a room, the door closed and done up the ass

 

They then take pictures of the act so that you will not tell anyone.

You can safely ignore this blokes posts.

 

Just follow what others have said. And bear in mind that being caught "on the job" in such circumstances is extremely rare.

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I agree that lying to the police isn't going to be a good idea. My understanding though is that the police can ony require you to identify yourself if they reasonably suspect you of a crime. They can hardly expect you to "account for your actions" which might be another reason to identify yourself. As you haven't committed a crime do you really have to identify yourself?

 

There are very few circumstances where it's a criminal offence not to give name, address etc. to the police. Being in a brothel isn't one of them, even if the police say that they have reasonable grounds of suspicion that you've committed a crime. You don't have to give them your name even if you're arrested or charged. It's probably not a good idea though.

 

So you don't have to identify yourself. If at the pre-raid briefing the police have been instructed to get names and addresses then they're not going to be too happy about your refusing. They'll just use the appropriately named "Ways and Means Act".

 

In 1998 Joe Ashton MP was caught up in a brothel raid with a 21 year old Thai prostitute. He refused to identify himself. After much frustration the police let him go but followed him to his car and got his vehicle registration number. These days they'd probably just threaten to arrest him under section 53A and say that they have reasonable grounds of suspicion that the Thai prostitute was coerced. Another one that I've heard is the police saying that the punter sitting in reception matched the description of the owner (ie. male, middle-aged, medium height etc) and would he mind coming down to the station to be eliminated from their enquiries, with the threat of arrest under section 33A SOA 1956 (brothel keeping) if he refuses. 

 

Personally, I'd give my name and address if asked. Nothing will come of it. It's not illegal to visit a prostitute or brothel, and punters make terrible witnesses in brothel-keeping cases as they have their own interests to look after.

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I am not being partisan... but this is a good reason to use a slightly older independent WG with some decent FRs .. so she is not underage and obviously works for herself out of her own apartment. 

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If the coppers are bent, then you get taking to a room, the door closed and done up the ass

 

They then take pictures of the act so that you will not tell anyone.

 

I'm not surprised you get a hard time of others on the forum.  This is a new poster asking a perfectly reasonably question (unlike most of yours).  If you have nothing supportive to add then why bother adding anything at all?

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If the coppers are bent, then you get taking to a room, the door closed and done up the ass

 

They then take pictures of the act so that you will not tell anyone.

Holly is far too harsh brother. The experience must've been pretty traumatic for you. And now having to wear adult diapers....  :eek:

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I'm not surprised you get a hard time of others on the forum.  This is a new poster asking a perfectly reasonably question (unlike most of yours).  If you have nothing supportive to add then why bother adding anything at all?

 

Badmaash is a very unsophisticated troll in that his interventions usually only represent rhetoric fallacy as such I am amazed that his threads are allow to remain on the main board because they are not "discussion" there is no dialectic convention just mindless provocation...  a message board like PN deserves a much better class of troll...  

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I'm not surprised you get a hard time of others on the forum.  This is a new poster asking a perfectly reasonably question (unlike most of yours).  If you have nothing supportive to add then why bother adding anything at all?

Youre not actually taking him seriously are you?

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Holly is far too harsh brother. The experience must've been pretty traumatic for you. And now having to wear adult diapers....  :eek:

 

After reading that I need diapers.... :D

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Youre not actually taking him seriously are you?

 

Of course not Mark. But Interested used to do that with new posters and many stayed away as a result....   In an ideal world I'd be the one with the camera while he would be the one doing the bending :cool:

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Youre not actually taking him seriously are you?

No more than she takes you!  :lol:

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After reading that I need diapers.... :D

Perhaps Badmaash has been on the wrong end of many a wg's strap on?! I'm sure that you'd happily come out of retirement to administer the necessaries?  :D 

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the name is a true reflection of him just google it. well of course he deserves it.

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I hope this thread has a bit more mileage. There are several confusing aspects which I hope will be covered at some point.

For example:

1. Can an EU citizen be trafficked to another EU country? In my mind "trafficked" involves smuggling across borders. No need to smuggle an EE WG any more so does that remove the risk that our delectable Romanian WGs could be trafficked?

2. The crime is "for sex". I think that "sex" is defined as penetration. If I have this right then a massage with happy ending is not sex because there is no penetration. So uncle plod has to prove that there was an intention to pentratrate.

3. Was the wierdo who accosted me on the walkup stair saying that he wanted to watch in fact uncle plod?

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