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I read a review for mixed race indian serena, she seemed above board and independent.

Gave her a call and made a booking.

When I got there she was working out of a shared flat, and contrary to the review was not the girl in the picture.however, the girl was attractive so I thought why not.

After sex for about 20 minutes she was begging me to come, and was clearly in discomfort. Naturally I stopped, and we began to talk.

The girl spoke limited english, but we chatted. She was very sweet. She explained that she works from miday to 6am everyday. She had 2 children back in brazil, and that she was looking forward to going back to brazil in december, when she gets there she won't have to work anymore.

By this time it became apparent she was tired, and needed sleep. I toldthe girl to sleep, and she cat napped in my arms while I stroked her to sleep.

Someone knocked on the door and she explained that my time was up. She seemed irritated by the people who had interrupted her sleep, and displayed affection to me.i got dressed and she kissed me goodbye.

The girls world was not mine, or a place that I inhabit. It was dark and somewhat sinister. from what she told, me I dont think there was anyone forcing her to work, bu rathert it was a rational economic decision on her part.

From a situational perspective this is a world I dont ever want to visit again.

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well, speak for yourself, as I wont be giving up any time soon

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I read a review for mixed race indian serena, she seemed above board and independent.

Gave her a call and made a booking.

When I got there she was working out of a shared flat, and contrary to the review was not the girl in the picture.however, the girl was attractive so I thought why not.

After sex for about 20 minutes she was begging me to come, and was clearly in discomfort. Naturally I stopped, and we began to talk.

The girl spoke limited english, but we chatted. She was very sweet. She explained that she works from miday to 6am everyday. She had 2 children back in brazil, and that she was looking forward to going back to brazil in december, when she gets there she won't have to work anymore.

By this time it became apparent she was tired, and needed sleep. I toldthe girl to sleep, and she cat napped in my arms while I stroked her to sleep.

Someone knocked on the door and she explained that my time was up. She seemed irritated by the people who had interrupted her sleep, and displayed affection to me.i got dressed and she kissed me goodbye.

The girls world was not mine, or a place that I inhabit. It was dark and somewhat sinister. from what she told, me I dont think there was anyone forcing her to work, bu rathert it was a rational economic decision on her part.

From a situational perspective this is a world I dont ever want to visit again.

A rational economic choice'?

I'm not sure that the picture you paint gives me that impression.

An economic choice as opposed to being trafficked: but 'rational'?

Forcex by virtue of her personal circumstances would seem a more fitting description - which is where that ridiculous piece of unworkable legislation rears its well-meaning head.

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well, speak for yourself, as I wont be giving up any time soon

I didn't get the impression from reading the post that the OP was speaking for anyone other than himself?

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I don't like my bosses, I have to work longer hours than I am really comfortable with, and I would be happier if I could find something else, but that doesn't mean I am coerced; it is just the world we live in, particularly with the current economic climate.

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I don't like my bosses, I have to work longer hours than I am really comfortable with, and I would be happier if I could find something else, but that doesn't mean I am coerced; it is just the world we live in, particularly with the current economic climate.

And you don't think that there might be a difference between the work you do and the discomfort it causes and sex work?

I'm certainly no fluffy, not by any means - but the op's vivid picture sounds pretty extreme and it doesn't sound like someone just having a bad day in the office to me.

Your analogy is unhelpful.

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And you don't think that there might be a difference between the work you do and the discomfort it causes and sex work?

I'm certainly no fluffy, not by any means - but the op's vivid picture sounds pretty extreme and it doesn't sound like someone just having a bad day in the office to me.

Your analogy is unhelpful.

The OP has what is called a conscience, remember that word? He worries that the lady is deeply unhappy in her work, so why not accept his decision instead of making light of the lady's discomfort by drawing up stupid analogies?

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The OP has what is called a conscience, remember that word? He worries that the lady is deeply unhappy in her work, so why not accept his decision instead of making light of the lady's discomfort by drawing up stupid analogies?

Errr?

I haven't made up any analogies.

I have accepted his decision.

I share his concern but mine goes much deeper and further?

I know the majority of Punternet has decided to attack every word that I type - but at least make sure your attack is logically correct.

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Sorry DW, I didn't mean to quote you and you made a very fair point. I either don't quote (the repeated post can get veeery long) or quote the wrong person!

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I've been visiting escorts for a decade now, and I have never had an experience like this one.

 

My advice to anyone who is troubled by this, would be this- only visit the most reputable agencies who look after their girls, who don't over-work them and who can vouch for them. That's what good agencies do. I constantly see people here complaining about the prices at the top London agencies, but I happily pay for that quality and peace of mind regarding the escort and her personal situation, and her personal choices (it's when you start looking for the "cheaper punts" or the "amateur girls" that you find yourself heading down these dark paths, and situations where girls have dodgy pimps or have been trafficked by criminal gangs.) I have also only ever seen Independents with quality websites/feedback, or girls that I already knew from agencies who decided to go down that route.

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For the sake of clarity I was not intending to preach.

also, having spoken, with the girl at some length she did not present as trafficked, or pimped. She just saw working in the uk as way to make alot of money.

I was really just articulating my thoughts, but hoped they might be of interest to others.

finally, although not top dollar, £140 ph was not in my view cheep punt.

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Sorry DW, I didn't mean to quote you and you made a very fair point. I either don't quote (the repeated post can get veeery long) or quote the wrong person!

Apology accepted.

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 Your first mistake was staying when she was not the girl in the pics .  If you feel sorry for her book her again for an all day punt and take her out and get her some fresh air . She is one of many in the punting world  . 

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I read a review for mixed race indian serena, she seemed above board and independent.

Gave her a call and made a booking.

When I got there she was working out of a shared flat, and contrary to the review was not the girl in the picture.however, the girl was attractive so I thought why not.

After sex for about 20 minutes she was begging me to come, and was clearly in discomfort. Naturally I stopped, and we began to talk.

The girl spoke limited english, but we chatted. She was very sweet. She explained that she works from miday to 6am everyday. She had 2 children back in brazil, and that she was looking forward to going back to brazil in december, when she gets there she won't have to work anymore.

By this time it became apparent she was tired, and needed sleep. I toldthe girl to sleep, and she cat napped in my arms while I stroked her to sleep.

Someone knocked on the door and she explained that my time was up. She seemed irritated by the people who had interrupted her sleep, and displayed affection to me.i got dressed and she kissed me goodbye.

The girls world was not mine, or a place that I inhabit. It was dark and somewhat sinister. from what she told, me I dont think there was anyone forcing her to work, bu rathert it was a rational economic decision on her part.

From a situational perspective this is a world I dont ever want to visit again.

It depends on how you look at it. If she hasn't been coerced then she is there purely of her own free will. Yes circumstances do play a part but they affect many in the same way, and the majority do not succumb because they know themselves enough to know this work is not easy. Prostitution seems to offer an easy way out but those who do it have the mettle to deal with it or they get out. quick. In the above instance the girl is either playing on your sympathy or she is genuinely not cut out for the job. Either way, she is not your responsibility unless you know she is in some sort of danger which she isn't.

 

Why it should make you want give up punting is beyond me.

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For the sake of clarity I was not intending to preach.

also, having spoken, with the girl at some length she did not present as trafficked, or pimped. She just saw working in the uk as way to make alot of money.

I was really just articulating my thoughts, but hoped they might be of interest to others.

finally, although not top dollar, £140 ph was not in my view cheep punt.

 

Hello Pastime, I'm sorry - my comment was not a coded criticism of you personally or an assumption about why you booked that specific girl and had that experience- I was speaking in a general sense. I can understand now why it may have come across that way but want to clear that up. All I was trying to say is that if anyone wants to avoid booking girls who might be in unpleasant situations, my advice is to book through reputable agencies, even if they are expensive. It was a general bit of advice and not a dig at you, it was more in response to the issues (trafficking, overworking) your thoughts brought up.

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i'm surprised that somebody would think that ANY girl would voluntarily prostitiute herself...

 

of course she doesnt want to do this... who would... none of them really want to do this... ok there are girls out there buying prada and LV handbags but the vast majority do it out of utter desperation... often because they have kids...

 

you are quite right to jack it in if it bothers you... good for you.

 

it bothers me too that women have to wrench themselves away from their kids and suck and fuck to make money, especially when i get to know them... but not enough to give up... i choose my women carefully, build a (punting) relationship with them and become part of their income until they have made enough to move on... i treat them with respect, pay well, make every experience as pleasent as possible and wish them the best when they go...

 

unless she has been trafficked or forced, i dont really see why you should feel guilty... she put herself here to make money... her situation may well be sad and unfair... but it's not your fault.

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I notice no one has picked up on the rather obvious. The lady said that when she gets back to Brazil she will not have to work anymore. Anyone who knows people from Brazil will be aware that its not a cheap life over there, things that are cheap here are expensive there. The lady quite likely has a fortune stashed away so that she can spend the next 6 months in Brazil NOT working. 

 

She is working these hours from choice so that she can reap the benefits later not because she has too. If it was a case of she has too then how is she going to be able to NOT work anymore when she gets back to Brazil.

 

I met a girl who worked day and night taking either a day shift or a night shift off every 3 days or so, never both day and night shift. She spent the entire day or night sleeping then went back to round the clock working again. The only time she had off other than the sleep shift was whilst she was travelling to and fro between her places of work when she would catch 40 winks on the train. This was her choice. She goes to a country, works for 6 months then goes back to Brazil and doesnt work for 6 months, she enjoys her life there. 

 

I saw pictures of the stuff she buys herself when she goes back home, she has a lovely house which she paid for herself, last time she went back she treated herself to a huge brand new land rover. The time she was about to go back home when I had met her she was paying for a nose job as she had  rather nasal voice due to sinus problems, she was getting a bigger boob job and she was buying herself a brand spanking new harley davidson.

 

Just because someone is working long hours, is knackered, has a sore fanny from fucking so much doesnt mean she lives in a dark place in  a dark world,  it could mean she just wants to be able to NOT work for half the year when she is back home so works twice as hard the other half a year. 

 

OP just carry on punting and concentrate on the fact that she has enough money stashed away to be able to not work when she goes home, she has probably already paid for the house, her mothers house, her kids private school and her 4 x 4 and possibly even has a business back home where she employs someone to run it for her. Dont make assumptions

 

Will you feel sorry for her when you are having your 7 days off over christmas knowing she is partying it up on the beaches of Brazil and looking forward to NOT having to slog her guts our all year round like you do?

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When you assume you make an ass out of you and me.

Some of us enjoy doing what we do.

And Chloe is spot on.

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My feeling were more nuisanced than pity/sympathy.

I thought I made clear that I recognised her decision to work as a rational on, for the financial benefit it yielded. In my work my physical and psychological health suffer from time to time. I personally see no significant distinction there. for example, a fireman might suffer serious physical injury in the course of his work, see horrendous traumatic things. Sex work can I logically ass assume have its own job specific challenges.

What was uncomfortable about this experience was that the nature of the exploitation was laid bare. And I don't just mean exploitation of her.

I suppose sometimes it's did difficult to articulate a feeling.

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What was uncomfortable about this experience was that the nature of the exploitation was laid bare. And I don't just mean exploitation of her.

I suppose sometimes it's did difficult to articulate a feeling.

 

So, you mean YOU were feeling exploited? Because you paid £140, and the WG goes to sleep on you after 20 minutes, after you already compromised and didn't get the girl you wanted? I can understand that.

 

Or you were disappointed because she didn't hide the fact that it's a job, not a hobby? Did you feel you were using her? My first reaction to your post was: OMG, was he shtupping her for a solid 20 minutes (you do say: after sex for about 20 minutes)? I'd have slipped into a coma, too - my lady garden can't take that kind of pounding.

 

All I can make out is that you had a less than satisfactory experience - too much reality, maybe? I hope your next "date" is more fun for you...

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My feeling were more nuisanced than pity/sympathy.

I thought I made clear that I recognised her decision to work as a rational on, for the financial benefit it yielded. In my work my physical and psychological health suffer from time to time. I personally see no significant distinction there. for example, a fireman might suffer serious physical injury in the course of his work, see horrendous traumatic things. Sex work can I logically ass assume have its own job specific challenges.

What was uncomfortable about this experience was that the nature of the exploitation was laid bare. And I don't just mean exploitation of her.

I suppose sometimes it's did difficult to articulate a feeling.

So you wouldnt call the fire brigade if your house burnt down just incase they were extremely tired after a busy night or because you dont think they would put your fire out properly after a busy night?

 

The girl shouldnt have been working hours she couldnt cope with and expecting the guys to take the shit end of the shovel for it  x

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My feeling were more nuisanced than pity/sympathy.

I thought I made clear that I recognised her decision to work as a rational on, for the financial benefit it yielded. In my work my physical and psychological health suffer from time to time. I personally see no significant distinction there. for example, a fireman might suffer serious physical injury in the course of his work, see horrendous traumatic things. Sex work can I logically ass assume have its own job specific challenges.

What was uncomfortable about this experience was that the nature of the exploitation was laid bare. And I don't just mean exploitation of her.

I suppose sometimes it's did difficult to articulate a feeling.

I'd like to know just who you think is being exploited here, and how. It certainly isn't the girl in question if she is there of her own doing. Also, do you stop buying other commodities when you find out they have been made in some sweat-shop in a foreign country?  

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I don't understand the rationale here: shagging an escort who is not into it for whatever reason is not the same as calling out tired and overworked firemen in the event of a fire! You guys seem quite willing and able to shag a lady regardless of whether she is into it or not/acting or not, and men being men, that is the nature of the game, but the OP is saying that he personally has a problem with 'forcing' ladies who are obviously not having a good time. Even though the lady may be doing the job out of her own free will, the fact that she does not seem to like what she is doing/is not a very good actress who can fake enjoyment, makes him feel uneasy and surely he has every right to feel that way. Most decent guys would feel uncomfortable.

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I don't understand the rationale here: shagging an escort who is not into it for whatever reason is not the same as calling out tired and overworked firemen in the event of a fire! You guys seem quite willing and able to shag a lady regardless of whether she is into it or not/acting or not, and men being men, that is the nature of the game, but the OP is saying that he personally has a problem with 'forcing' ladies who are obviously not having a good time. Even though the lady may be doing the job out of her own free will, the fact that she does not seem to like what she is doing/is not a very good actress who can fake enjoyment, makes him feel uneasy and surely he has every right to feel that way. Most decent guys would feel uncomfortable.

 

'Forcing' ?

 

you really are full of it

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'Forcing' ?

 

you really are full of it

I wouldn't argue with you for a minute but I had Sereena's number in my mobile address book as a future 'possible' and have just deleted it.  Regardless her attitude or circumstances, there simply are too many appealing Indian WGs out there to tempt me if and when I tire of Thai and Ebony WGs.  I had exchanged e-mails with Sereena and re-read them before I deleted her, and they definitely were written by someone who was reasonably fluent in English, which raises doubt about their authorship.  That's AW for you. :ph34r:

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