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Punters - Never Reveal Your Personal Details

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This thread will serve as a timely reminder. Never reveal your personal details during a punt. I‘ve mentioned the danger of this previously, but predictably it was dismissed by some as 'paranoia'. 

 

So now two punters have again been exposed by a WG on her Adultwork blog, where she has listed their real names and occupations.

 

This, after both gave her a positive, yes, you read it correctly, positive FR on another forum?!

 

She appears to have taken ‘revenge’ because she was booked at a reduced rate, via a reverse booking and was embarrassed that the reduced rate was published, alongside the report, on that forum. Of course, she had no problems with the Adultwork feedback, because they didn't detail any reduced rates. 

 

God knows what she would've done had they given her negative reviews. 

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And she charges £200 per hour. So much for those who believe that paying more buys you a 'better quality girl'.  :rolleyes:

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If there is an absolute golden rule it is that you NEVER break the confidentiality of client in any public domain. 

 

I can only consider that it is correct to report a dangerous punter to the police or ugly mug board with the usual discretion. 

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This thread will serve as a timely reminder. Never reveal your personal details during a punt. I‘ve mentioned the danger of this previously, but predictably it was dismissed by some as 'paranoia'. 

 

So now two punters have again been exposed by a WG on her Adultwork blog, where she has listed their real names and occupations.

 

This, after both gave her a positive, yes, you read it correctly, positive FR on another forum?!

 

She appears to have taken ‘revenge’ because she was booked at a reduced rate, via a reverse booking and was embarrassed that the reduced rate was published, alongside the report, on that forum. Of course, she had no problems with the Adultwork feedback, because they didn't detail any reduced rates. 

 

God knows what she would've done had they given her negative reviews.

Always sound advice....

Is it allowed to name this little bundle of professionalism on here, or if not could you pm a link?

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Always sound advice....

Is it allowed to name this little bundle of professionalism on here, or if not could you pm a link?

PM sent.  :)

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That's clearly out of order, but have to say all my regulars know my personal details and I have no cause for concern.

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Lost number of the times I have received an email with a number asking to call when I can talk only to get a voicemail stating the guys name and the company he works for. When I got through to a guy who requested a ring back at the parlour once he picked up on the 3rd attempt and I just said "hello johny bloggs of mkc international, how is it being the accounts manager these days". Then i explained that perhaps it wasnt in his best interests to have his vm going to so much information as he may come up against someone inscrutable. He chose not to visit the parlour which was probably my fault but I hope he learned a lesson from it and didnt make the same mistake again.

 

Number of times I have also received a booking and the guy gave his full name, asked if that was his real name and the reply is yes. I used to go to the trouble of explaining that its better to use a false name but I dont really bother anymore. 

 

p.s using a work email isnt always the best choice either now is it. Hello philbiggins_bigtrucksRus@gmail.com

 

 

fabrications used as examples x

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Ummm..so what she's actually done is name one guy by first name and profession (covering thousands of people) and another one by his punting username? Not great behaviour, but not the fully blown reveal either as suggested. Unless there's something I'm not seeing in her blog.

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Regardless of the ins and outs of this particular example, it's good advice from the OP. I have a couple of regulars who I have been seeing for 4 or 5 years now and I wouldn't be surprised if they have gleaned my last name, even though I have never offered it, as I have been fairly relaxed with them for a long time now. Both have let slip their real names yet I still call them by their working names, which they prefer. They trust me with small RL details and I reciprocate.

However, that is unusual. With people you don't know well (and bonking someone for 3x30 minute sessions does not equal knowing well), be very, very careful with that identity. Most WGs are perfectly trustworthy. A few aren't. Keeping your RL identity secret does not preclude having an enjoyable booking.

You know it makes sense.

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Regardless of the ins and outs of this particular example, it's good advice from the OP. I have a couple of regulars who I have been seeing for 4 or 5 years now and I wouldn't be surprised if they have gleaned my last name, even though I have never offered it, as I have been fairly relaxed with them for a long time now. Both have let slip their real names yet I still call them by their working names, which they prefer. They trust me with small RL details and I reciprocate.

However, that is unusual. With people you don't know well (and bonking someone for 3x30 minute sessions does not equal knowing well), be very, very careful with that identity. Most WGs are perfectly trustworthy. A few aren't. Keeping your RL identity secret does not preclude having an enjoyable booking.

You know it makes sense.

 

Absolutely.

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How utterly stupid - of her, not him.

 

Kiss and tell is not cool.

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Ummm..so what she's actually done is name one guy by first name and profession (covering thousands of people) and another one by his punting username? Not great behaviour, but not the fully blown reveal either as suggested. Unless there's something I'm not seeing in her blog.

 

"not great" eh?

 

It's likely that the bloke didn't tell her his second name (as most don't, perhaps you do)  and she revealed the personal information on him which she had, so it was a  "fully blown reveal". Considering the profession, it's disgraceful.

 

I would say "not a fully blown reveal" would be just writing his first name, why drag his profession into it? More worrying, was that it was done out of spite due to some information he presented in a +ve review. 

 

It's good to know that you give away your personal details and hopefully none of your regulars will have a disagreement with you (ever!) or a fall out, have their laptop/smartphone stolen/e-mail hacked, or even dislike some information you present in a positive review. 

 

Considering your personal details are known I consider your reviews and advice as useful as a chocolate teapot.

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"not great" eh?

 

It's likely that the bloke didn't tell her his second name (as most don't, perhaps you do)  and she revealed the personal information on him which she had, so it was a  "fully blown reveal". Considering the profession, it's disgraceful.

 

I would say "not a fully blown reveal" would be just writing his first name, why drag his profession into it? More worrying, was that it was done out of spite due to some information he presented in a +ve review. 

 

It's good to know that you give away your personal details and hopefully none of your regulars will have a disagreement with you (ever!) or a fall out, have their laptop/smartphone stolen/e-mail hacked, or even dislike some information you present in a positive review. 

 

Considering your personal details are known I consider your reviews and advice as useful as a chocolate teapot.

 

Yeah, maybe. Considering your lack of skill with using a chocolate teapot, I think I can rule your reviews and advice out too :)

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Yeah, maybe. Considering your lack of skill with using a chocolate teapot, I think I can rule your reviews and advice out too :)

 

This isn't paranoia, these things happen all the time so sorry to be blunt with you. Mostly when information is compromised it is not usually the fault of the lady or something she has done deliberately, however the circumstances of how your information gets "revealed" becomes irrelevant.

 

Just examples I've heard are leaving a smart phone on a train by accident with client details. Another was a lady who was burgled and had her laptop stolen, she kept details on a spreadsheet so now those details are with. criminals....

 

Considering you can't really control for bad luck, criminal behaviour , hackers etc,cock ups it just seems smart to keep things to yourself, unless of course you have nothing to lose like Charlie Sheen but not everyone can pull that off.

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This isn't paranoia, these things happen all the time so sorry to be blunt with you. Mostly when information is compromised it is not usually the fault of the lady or something she has done deliberately, however the circumstances of how your information gets "revealed" becomes irrelevant.

 

Just examples I've heard are leaving a smart phone on a train by accident with client details. Another was a lady who was burgled and had her laptop stolen, she kept details on a spreadsheet so now those details are with. criminals....

 

Considering you can't really control for bad luck, criminal behaviour , hackers etc,cock ups it just seems smart to keep things to yourself, unless of course you have nothing to lose like Charlie Sheen but not everyone can pull that off.

 

Understood, and apologies if my response came off as "So what?"..it's clearly a serious issue. My perspective comes from the way I punt, which includes travel abroad with regulars and there is a huge amount of trust involved there as passport details etc are inevitably known. I'll happily rescind "not great" to "disgraceful" as that's what the ladies behaviour in this case clearly is. 

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"not great" eh?

 

It's likely that the bloke didn't tell her his second name (as most don't, perhaps you do)  and she revealed the personal information on him which she had, so it was a  "fully blown reveal". Considering the profession, it's disgraceful.

 

I would say "not a fully blown reveal" would be just writing his first name, why drag his profession into it? More worrying, was that it was done out of spite due to some information he presented in a +ve review. 

 

It's good to know that you give away your personal details and hopefully none of your regulars will have a disagreement with you (ever!) or a fall out, have their laptop/smartphone stolen/e-mail hacked, or even dislike some information you present in a positive review. 

 

Considering your personal details are known I consider your reviews and advice as useful as a chocolate teapot.

a revealing is ony a revealing if someone can actually be identified by the information revealed otherwise all that is revealed are a few random and useless details that actually reveal...no one at all . The case of the username reveals more as it reveals and actual identity albeit an anonymous online one. The user can of course change all his usernames everywhere but thats just not feasible if you have a good reputation amongst the escorts because of feedback and word of mouth etc, its unfair for a guy to have to start again as an unknown user. 

 

The fact is that both escorts and punters have a small core of utter idiots who go around throwing usernames about on their profiles, crap blogs etc in the vague hope that someone somewhere is going to value their opinion enough to give an actual shit let alone  truely be influenced  by how others see that person. They are best ignored a bit like that turd you see on the path in front of you, do you stop, examine and discuss that turd..no, you look up, step around it and leave it behind on the pavement where it belongs. 

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Wow, scary stuff.

 

I'm new to all this and about to go out to my first ever punt so the advice above is priceless.

 

Nath

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This thread will serve as a timely reminder. Never reveal your personal details during a punt. I‘ve mentioned the danger of this previously, but predictably it was dismissed by some as 'paranoia'. 

 

So now two punters have again been exposed by a WG on her Adultwork blog, where she has listed their real names and occupations.

 

This, after both gave her a positive, yes, you read it correctly, positive FR on another forum?!

 

She appears to have taken ‘revenge’ because she was booked at a reduced rate, via a reverse booking and was embarrassed that the reduced rate was published, alongside the report, on that forum. Of course, she had no problems with the Adultwork feedback, because they didn't detail any reduced rates. 

 

God knows what she would've done had they given her negative reviews. 

Indeed, as i have always said you cant be too careful, this includes using phones and the net. My advice to punters is it may be the case now that you arent bothered about this, but you may become bothered in the future and the net could leave a trace behind causing you problems at some future time. That applies to some WGs as well of course.

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a revealing is ony a revealing if someone can actually be identified by the information revealed otherwise all that is revealed are a few random and useless details that actually reveal...no one at all . The case of the username reveals more as it reveals and actual identity albeit an anonymous online one. The user can of course change all his usernames everywhere but thats just not feasible if you have a good reputation amongst the escorts because of feedback and word of mouth etc, its unfair for a guy to have to start again as an unknown user. 

 

The fact is that both escorts and punters have a small core of utter idiots who go around throwing usernames about on their profiles, crap blogs etc in the vague hope that someone somewhere is going to value their opinion enough to give an actual shit let alone  truely be influenced  by how others see that person. They are best ignored a bit like that turd you see on the path in front of you, do you stop, examine and discuss that turd..no, you look up, step around it and leave it behind on the pavement where it belongs. 

 

 

I'm saying that she revealed the information that she had on him out of spite, it was intentional on her part to reveal this and that's what counts. If she had his second name and revealed that would that fit the criteria for a reveal in your book?

 

You say " a few random and useless details" - So you consider his real profession and real first name  useless details? - How so?

 

Everyone whether it be punter, escort,  who reads her blog and now knows the real name (first) and profession of the person associated with that username.

 

Now, for example if he told someone else where he works in confidence and they read that blog, they also know his first name, where he works and his profession - it adds up to a full real life ID, your logic is seriously flawed.

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I'm saying that she revealed the information that she had on him out of spite, it was intentional on her part to reveal this and that's what counts. If she had his second name and revealed that would that fit the criteria for a reveal in your book?

 

You say " a few random and useless details" - So you consider his real profession and real first name  useless details? - How so?

 

Everyone whether it be punter, escort,  who reads her blog and now knows the real name (first) and profession of the person associated with that username.

 

Now, for example if he told someone else where he works in confidence and they read that blog, they also know his first name, where he works and his profession - it adds up to a full real life ID, your logic is seriously flawed.

I have not read the post but for an example if you say "this guy is an arsehole, his name is kevin and he is a solicitor" what exactly is that giving away..zero. It has no reference to who the guy actually is and it doesnt even prove that its his real name. Just because one girl knows a guy who punts with her called kevin who is a solicitor and knows where he works then it still doesnt prove that its the same guy, there is nothing to link the two other than what could be a made up name and a made up profession. 

 

Your paranio is seriously getting the better of you. Unless of course you think that someone is then going to try to blackmail every solicitor called kevin in the uk. 

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 If she had his second name and revealed that would that fit the criteria for a reveal in your book?

 

 

Yes it would. In fact if she only had his real surname and his profession then it would be more serious in my book. We recognise each other by surname when we dont know each other. Google solicitors called brown for example and you will get more information than if you google solicitors by the first name kevin. 

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I use various names when punting.

 

On only one occasion when arranging an outcall - the girl wanted my name for the hotel booking - which was my realy name. I was really nervous about this because no other outcall girl had asked for this before. However the girl was lovely - and she said she asked for the name just so if she get's stopped by Hotel security she can say, "I'm here for a meeting with my boss Edited Smith in room 450".

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I have not read the post but for an example if you say "this guy is an arsehole, his name is kevin and he is a solicitor" what exactly is that giving away..zero. It has no reference to who the guy actually is and it doesnt even prove that its his real name. Just because one girl knows a guy who punts with her called kevin who is a solicitor and knows where he works then it still doesnt prove that its the same guy, there is nothing to link the two other than what could be a made up name and a made up profession. 

 

Your paranio is seriously getting the better of you. Unless of course you think that someone is then going to try to blackmail every solicitor called kevin in the uk. 

 

Are you being serious Chloe? Just read what you wrote.

 

You are saying that she is giving away his name (Kevin) his profession (Solicitor) and this amounts to "Zero". No it doesn't, it amounts to two components of a person's real world identity as you wrote. 

 

Just because you don't have the other components to connect his real life ID, that does not mean other people do not have this information e.g. those who have seen him on aw before, or read his posts on a forum , may have been told other details and those 2 large components would easily be enough to figure out who he was. Not hard in this case. 

 

A real name, a job are components of a real ID, it was done out of spite with an intention to reveal and I think that's the worst aspect of it.  

 

With regard to paranoia, I'm sorry but this incident actually happened and you are even prepared to accept that his real details were revealed - So this is clearly false.

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To me it makes no difference if the details she revealed were false or not, or whether they were the only details she had.

The very fact she would divulge ANY information in the manner she did is totally wrong, and would certainly prevent me from ever making a booking with her in the future.

She has done herself no favours at all IMO.

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To me it makes no difference if the details she revealed were false or not, or whether they were the only details she had.

The very fact she would divulge ANY information in the manner she did is totally wrong, and would certainly prevent me from ever making a booking with her in the future.

She has done herself no favours at all IMO.

They werent false apparently, which is why you cant be too careful in punting, the reality is being found out could ruin a punters life, and as such this WG was well out of order in my view. She now says reviews shouldnt be done on her at all. Well if a WG advertises in the public arena and on here isnt on the no reports list a punter can do a review if he so wishes, he might wish to share his information about the WG good or bad with other punters, which obviously is a major function of punting forums.

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