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I  often drive about 50 miles into central London for a booking, so I find a one hour booking is too short and so make a two hour booking, usually costing me £300 - £500  and usually book with the higher end agencies (Saucy london, agency touch of class, Bijoux, Blue Monday)

 

After I've handed over the envelope in the first five minutes, the lady sits on the bed, offers me a drink and chats....and chats.....more talk,  more questions....more talk, polite conversation yes, but it isn't what I have turned up for.  I try to answer quick one work answers to give her a hint, or look round the room pretending i'm bored, but the girl still doesn't get the hint that I want some action.

 

It seems that when she knows it's a two hour booking, the girl thinks that the first hour is just easy money just for talking and being sociable....   Overcharging me yet under-delivering on service.

 

If I complain then all the chemistry and friendliness is lost, her attitude goes bad and she gets pissed off with me.  Then there is no enthusiasm in the booking, I feel like getting dressed and leaving but of course she won't be refunding any money.  I accept that when a guy first arrives you might have a quick polite chat for a few minutes to break the ice, but when a girl talks for over 60 minutes into a two hour booking and makes no move to get undressed herself, undress or start kissing you, or offering you a shower, what would you guys do. ?    Please help.

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After the formalities and initial chat is over, just politely mention what you want the girl to do - ie come over by you on the bed, kiss her, and start from there. It's your time so it's not about spoiling the mood or complaining - just take the lead and start when you are ready and I'm sure she'll follow your lead. It's possible she is trying to run the clock down, but it's also possible she's waiting for you to make the first move. For all she knows, all you might want to do is talk - she's not to know if you don't tell her......

There's one wg I've seen a few times for 2 hour bookings, and I swear she'd just chatter away non stop for 2 hours if you'd let her! I don't even think it's a time wasting tactic with her, she regularly stays after the time has finished for a chit chat. When I want things to move along, I just do as above and we start from there. The talking soon stops - plenty of time for talking during any breaks in the action ;)

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You have to move in on her, in a non threatening way. Take her hand, kiss her and start to nibble her neck. She ought to get the message, unless she is in the wrong job!

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Exactly what Burty said. Also, If you are somebody that would prefer the girl to take the lead, there is nothing wrong with making that request to the agency beforehand. Good agencies at that level should pass the information on, and the girl will then "seduce" you. 

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I think you answered your own question in the first paragraph.  Why are you not booking Indies with good reviews rather than high end agency girls?

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I think you are too polite, take the initiative and see what comes out of it.

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Jump on her.

 

Without seeing what's going on I can't judge, some guys do sit across the room feeling nervous but it's also up to the woman to take charge of the situation.

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Why so passive? Just tell her what you want: i.e. "I'd like two (three?) orgasms, so can we please get on with it, so I have enough time to recover before the next round".....  It's not rude to tell the lady what your expectations are - you are paying good money, and she wants to see you again in the future. The person with the wallet is the person in control. Why not use it? I'm sure the ladies you choose have many talents, but mind reading probably isn't one of them, so clear communication is crucial.

 

I agree with Holly. Why not book independent ladies? You can have direct contact before the appointment, and if you don't want to be too pushy in person, maybe send her a brief email outlining how you'd like the session to go? Also, agency ladies by definition are a bit more passive, which is why they don't organise their own business, but pay somebody else to take care of the advertising, negotiating, setting up dates etc. It stands to reason that they then are also more likely to be the less active party during a date. We all pick a way of working to suit our personalities, and indie ladies tend to be a bit more confident (and maybe feel more sexy, since we get to keep the full fee, and don't have to give 30% - 40% to somebody for finding clients).

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It's quite simple, don't book 2 hours.

A lot of girls will try to do the bare minimum and spend as much time "getting connected", that actually performing. Especially the overpriced photoshopped girls you are punting with from those agencies.

As others have said, stick with independents who have good reviews and be more assertive.

 

This is however one of the reasons why I don't do more than 30 minutes.

 

Be a man, not a mouse.  :P

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Book 2 great indies for an hour each with a nice comfort break in between. Far better value ;-)

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Totally agree with Holly, I tend to stay away from "high end agencies" when there are loads of great independent ladies who you can converse with ( email, phone, txt ) beforehand & specify what type of service / how you would like the booking to go.

 

Cut out of the "middle man" & deal with the lady you wish to see directly.

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Just turn up naked under a flasher mac what else can you do after taking your coat off only get down to it, there is rally no where else to go with that. "oh what fantastic weather we are having today" don't think so xxx

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I have booked through all those agencies, often go for 2 hours bookings and haven't found this problem with them (though I did once have it with a well-reviewed indie!).  When I want the conversation to end I will usually just say something "OK, I'd like to have a quick shower", jump in the shower and when I come out the lady will usually be waiting for me on the bed.

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I love 2 hour bookings but usually only with ladies I've seen before, or those with whom I know the time will be filled inventively and fully (FRs and good prior communication are the keys here). Start with an hour and re-book for two with a lady with whom you hit it off

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Exactly what Burty said. Also, If you are somebody that would prefer the girl to take the lead, there is nothing wrong with making that request to the agency beforehand. Good agencies at that level should pass the information on, and the girl will then "seduce" you. 

Good SPs at any price charged should pass the information on to the WG and offer a good service of course. To the OP firstly i dont spend the same amount of money you do on 121 punts, if i have a bad punt i lose less money obviously. My advice is initiate sexual contact with the WG asap, if she is any good she will be all over you immediately. After all its not a vicars tea party, at least for some of us, good WGs offer a good service as they or in this case the Agency as well want your return custom.

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If I complain then all the chemistry and friendliness is lost, her attitude goes bad and she gets pissed off with me.  Then there is no enthusiasm in the booking, I feel like getting dressed and leaving but of course she won't be refunding any money.  I accept that when a guy first arrives you might have a quick polite chat for a few minutes to break the ice, but when a girl talks for over 60 minutes into a two hour booking and makes no move to get undressed herself, undress or start kissing you, or offering you a shower, what would you guys do. ?    Please help.

 When I started punting, I did see a few London agency girls on 2hr appts and like you often had same experience with talking going on far longer than I wanted. Not sure if you a relative newbie to scene but like me then could be down to nervousness and inexperience and you maybe just need to be more assertive .. found things improved once I became more assured and letting her know early on what I wanted. 

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when you say 'often', how many times has this happened?

 

you probably are not doing anything wrong, but my advice is to give up punting.

 

and don't try it again.

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  I was thinking exactly what Strawberry said  , Jump on her  .  You are confusing your meetings like they are a visit to the doctors or your dentist  . Make physical contact within the first 5 mins next time  . Also take the train up to London , the parking charges and congestion charge saved will go towards your next punt . Book one hour max with a lady you haven't seen before .   Go for it / her .

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Good advice already above.

 

But goodness, some of us will NEVER pay that much once in their lives let alone regularly and we expect and almost always get a good deal more action than you are getting for £250 in the first hour.

 

50 miles isn't all that far - I used to drive 40 miles each way extremely regularly in the old days and think nothing of it and often the punts resulting were shorter than 30 mins even.

 

Man up, lad, and take the advice above which amounts to shortening your appts, going for well reviewed and if necessary pushy ladies and say what you want or take up fishing.

 

And if you must make the journey worthwhile, that suggestion of two girls for 1 hour each sounds good to me - although for me four for 30 min each sounds even better...I'm only 62 so need to make the most of myself while everything is in peak condition.

 

All said in the most helpful possible spirit.

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  I was thinking exactly what Strawberry said  , Jump on her  .  You are confusing your meetings like they are a visit to the doctors or your dentist  . Make physical contact within the first 5 mins next time  . Also take the train up to London , the parking charges and congestion charge saved will go towards your next punt . Book one hour max with a lady you haven't seen before .   Go for it / her .

 

 

Good advice already above.

 

But goodness, some of us will NEVER pay that much once in their lives let alone regularly and we expect and almost always get a good deal more action than you are getting for £250 in the first hour.

 

50 miles isn't all that far - I used to drive 40 miles each way extremely regularly in the old days and think nothing of it and often the punts resulting were shorter than 30 mins even.

 

Man up, lad, and take the advice above which amounts to shortening your appts, going for well reviewed and if necessary pushy ladies and say what you want or take up fishing.

 

And if you must make the journey worthwhile, that suggestion of two girls for 1 hour each sounds good to me - although for me four for 30 min each sounds even better...I'm only 62 so need to make the most of myself while everything is in peak condition.

 

All said in the most helpful possible spirit.

Take her in your arms as she opens the door and give her a smacker of a kiss. That should set the tone.

 

Back in the day it was not unusual for me to drive 120 miles each way for a good punt.There are more opportunities now so I drive a good deal less.

 

Good luck.

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I also use Bijoux Escorts. The girl should only have a 'very short' friendly chat with you to break the ice. I start things off with a quick (no more than a few minutes) chat. Then I tell her exactly what I want her to do to me (this has already been agreed at the time of booking) and what I want to do to her. While I'm explaining to her I'm also touching her at the same time to start things off.

From what you've said, it sounds like you are being ripped off with lots of cheap talk. I've never heard of this happening at the 'big' agencies before. Only you can put this right! The girls are there to take care of your wants, not to play fucking questions and answers with you!

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...... or offering you a shower........

just a thought, if you've been driving for 50miles, make sure you mention that about 5-10mins in while you're chatting and then you can say 'had long drive ...ok if I take quick shower before we start ?' ... so 15mins in to appt you're undressed fresh and ready to go. If she still isnt getting message after that then need to find another lady/agency or try well reviewed indie as has been advised.

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You have to move in on her, in a non threatening way. Take her hand, kiss her and start to nibble her neck. She ought to get the message, unless she is in the wrong job!

Good advice PP. If he just sits there, nodding ever so politely, whilst getting more frustrated, she'll simply talk the clock down. The punter often has to make the first move. 

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When you call the agency to arrange an appointment with an escort explain to them that you are a bit nervous and would like to see someone who is confident enough to take the lead. I know when I was new I was rubbish at initiating the action and waited for the client to start, which resulted in some meetings where we didn't get around to doing much. If you only give one word/short answers to questions the escort won't necessarily translate that to 'he'd like to get it on', I'd read that more as an awkward conversation or that he doesn't like me.

Sometimes clients book for 2 hours as they like to spend the first hour talking, but everyone is different. The escorts you've seen probably have assumed this when you haven't moved on to action. As we are being paid we like to take your lead so you get what you want from your time. It could happen the other way around where a client arranges a 2 hour appointment, escort pounces on him straight away, then he isn't happy as she seems to 'mechanical'. Just let the escort know what you want, and so speak to the agency and ask if they feel your chosen escort is suited to your needs before the meeting. I can vouch for Saucy and Bijoux for being good at their recommendations and for knowing their escorts as I work for them, and they are more than happy to pass on any client requests.

It's a shame some derogatory comments have been made towards agency escorts. Completely unfair and irrelevant. I work both independently and with agencies, and give clients the same level of service however they choose to see me. If I didn't feel my agencies worked for their 30% then I simply wouldn't work with them, but they do a great job at working around my higgledy piggledy schedule finding me lovely clients, and bearing with me when I'm hardly ever available! I work very long hours in my demanding day job so am unable to answer my Jasmine phone a lot of the time, so if it wasn't for the agencies I'd miss out on many appointments.

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