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What Do Escort Rates Depend On?

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I briefly worked as an escort in my early 20`s for 6 months while I was at university and thinking of going back to it to pay my way through my Masters degree.  Thing is, when I previously worked as an escort I worked through an agency and I didn`t get any say in the rates I charged, it was 160 an hour of which the agency owner got 60 pounds. 

 

If I go back to escorting I would definitely work independently.  However, there`s something I`m slightly confused about.  What do the rates an escort charges depend on? The services offered or how high class and attractive she is? 

 

Though I say so myself, I`m an exceptionally good looking girl, I`m often compared to Angelina Jolie and have a super curvy fit size 10 figure and 34DD natural breasts.  I`d like to charge about 200 pounds an hour when I go back to escorting but would I get any customers at this rate considering most escorts charge around 150?  Plus, I`m quite open to any sexual experiences but not fond of anal sex, would this have to definitely be on the menu if I was to charge 200 pounds?

 

All feedback and advice would be much appreciated.

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Oh this should be fun ** opens jumbo bag of popcorn**

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All feedback and advice would be much appreciated.

I'll try and get in a serious answer before the usual nonsense starts.

Estella, the rates you should charge will be a reflection of how much you feel you are worth and how much gents in your locale are willing to pay. Other factors like services come into it, but in my experience aren't major influences. If you don't like anal, don't offer it. It's as simple as that. There is no set formula for mixing looks, services, attitude, location and surroundings to come up with a price.

The bad news is whatever you set your rate at, someone will be throwing mud at you for it being wrong. Either too high or too low.

For what it is worth, I choose girls, usually independent, in the £100 to £150 per hour bracket. If you set your rate at £200, you would most likely be pricing me out as a customer. That said and done, you may be OK with that. If all you are looking for is a couple of bookings a week at that sort of rate, it may be an option. However, if you want to be busy, a lower rate might work better.

Basically, only you can decide. I'd set a rate and go for it. See how much work you generate at that rate and flex your rates according to how busy you want to be.

Remember reputation counts a lot in this game. Gaining a rep may take a while if you set your prices too high to start off with.

I expect you'll get lots of advice here. Best of luck with it. I am off to share Vin's bag of popcorn.

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Oh this should be fun ** opens jumbo bag of popcorn**

I prefer sweet, to salty.  :)

 

I shall make one reply and then sit out this one and enjoy comments from the usual suspects!  :D

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Like petrol prices isn't it... all fairly similar in a local area?

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DON'T go for a set rate that then includes lots of extras. For example, if your 30 min rate is £60, don't add £20 for owo, £20 for cim, etc. I for one, wouldn't be interested as I'm not sure if the 30 min would cost £60, £80 or £100.

 

DO list you likes and dislikes. These are what you are offering, anything else is off the radar.

 

Pitch your prices at what you think you are worth. If you are happy to negotiate, you might say 'regulars may be able to negotiate a special deal with me'.

 

Think carefully about your rates for you private galleries/movies.

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What do the rates an escort charges depend on? The services offered or how high class and attractive she is? 

 

'High class' is a marketing term and completely meaningless - most people just read it as 'expensive' and/or pretentious. There is nothing 'high class' about sucking off strangers in a Travellodge, no matter how much you decide to charge them.

 

In addition to the above, I would say location plays a large part - £200 per hour won't fly in many UK places outside London, but it's not particularly out of the ordinary there (and neither are £80 or £300 per hour, purely because the place is so huge it can cater for a very diverse array of both punters and sex workers, despite the relatively small numbers here who mostly fall into a similar demographic). If you have less free time in which to work, seeing few punters at a higher rate is likely to work better for you although obviously you have more to lose from cancellations than somebody seeing more at a lower rate.

 

The main thing to ask yourself is what you have to offer which will make punters want to book when there are plenty of lovely ladies, who are also very pretty, charging half that or thereabouts? You need a USP, and it'll need to include a nice website with clear, good quality photos and possibly a video (a blog is good too and I get a lot of work from mine) rather than a thrown together Adultwork profile with some blurry fanny pictures on it.

 

Basically, you need to find a way to stand out, but it's not compulsory to get it right first time and a bit of trial and error doesn't hurt. And if you don't get enough work, you might find you're able to live with £180 or something instead rather than nothing :).

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The thing is I don`t want to work on a daily basis, or see a lot of punters,  maybe see about 4 clients a week max.  Plus, I don`t want to work in the city I live in as its not that big a place and don`t want to constantly be bumping into punters while in town, so I have to factor in travel costs.  I`ve looked at other independent escort websites and in Edinburgh and Glasgow there`s a lot of girls charging 200 pounds and even 250 pounds an hour. 

 

 As for humility, its an overrated trait, I don`t walk around thinking I`m the hottest thing that ever lived,  but you see what you see when you look in the mirror, no need for false modesty.

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As for the rest of you, thanks for your feedback and advice.

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I'll try and get in a serious answer before the usual nonsense starts.

Estella, the rates you should charge will be a reflection of how much you feel you are worth and how much gents in your locale are willing to pay. Other factors like services come into it, but in my experience aren't major influences. If you don't like anal, don't offer it. It's as simple as that. There is no set formula for mixing looks, services, attitude, location and surroundings to come up with a price.

The bad news is whatever you set your rate at, someone will be throwing mud at you for it being wrong. Either too high or too low.

For what it is worth, I choose girls, usually independent, in the £100 to £150 per hour bracket. If you set your rate at £200, you would most likely be pricing me out as a customer. That said and done, you may be OK with that. If all you are looking for is a couple of bookings a week at that sort of rate, it may be an option. However, if you want to be busy, a lower rate might work better.

Basically, only you can decide. I'd set a rate and go for it. See how much work you generate at that rate and flex your rates according to how busy you want to be.

Remember reputation counts a lot in this game. Gaining a rep may take a while if you set your prices too high to start off with.

I expect you'll get lots of advice here. Best of luck with it. I am off to share Vin's bag of popcorn.

 

thats all good.

 

I would say you need to check out the girls local to you.  I would use adultwork for your research.  There is local variation in rates.  They are high in London, and some places they are lower. Hull is known for low rates.

 

Think how you will market yourself.  Will you rely on Adultwork or will you make your own website.  I dont know how techy you are, but there are site builder sites.  But if you want your own url (estellafrost.com) then if you get someone else to do your website, buy the url yourself. I buy them from lcn.com. other sellers of urls, exist.  Then if you fall out with your web man you still have your url

 

Play with Adultowrk and see how the searches work.  Think how punters will filter and sort the results.  You need to attempt to make yours come out as near the top as possible.  Change your adultwork profile a lot cos one of the orderings is by last changed date.  Just removeing a full stop and adding it back will make you come out as changed most recent, bringing you to the coveted top of list.

Write the text for your site in woprd to use the spell and grammar checks.  If you can get someone else to proof read it for you.

 

If you are not full time have a schedule section so punters know when you are working and when not.  If a punter calls you 4 or 5 times and your phone is off he will think you are not real and ignore you in future.  If you say you are only available to take calls and see puntrers on monday afternoons, thursday mornings and saturdays then he knows and will organise himself accordingly. 

 

Get some decent pix.  they dont have to be professional ones. but get someone to take them (or use a tripod and timer) with a decent camera, make sure they are adequately lit. If you dare do some outside cos the lighting is done for your there!

 

put a phone number on when you are working.  Most punters reckon no phone number -don't bother.  But try and get punters to book on AW then leave feedback -that enhances your chances.

 

setting your rates at £200 may get you 1 or 2 guys a week.  £150 you will get quite a lot more punters so make more money.  That will depend on the elasticity of demand -how many more punters do you get for each £10 you reduce your fees by.

but you will also have to think do you want days of 4 or 5 blokes. depends on what you get off on!

 

be flexible.  you may set your price too high or too low. feel free to change them

 

one thing that puzzles me is why ladies dont vary their rates by time of day.  If you are busy from 12 till 2 quite till 5 then busy till 8, why not offer a lower price between 2 and 5?

 

lastly think about taper.  some charge half their hourly rate for half hour bookings, other charge a little more than half.  And how much for 2 hours.  I haven't managed to find rhyme or reason why this differs between ladies.

 

Think about extras.  I hate extras.  but for some special services it may be worth considering.

 

Good luck.

 

One last bit of advice.  Tour Birmingham.  But thats cos I am biased :)

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With regards to pricing, best to test the waters with something you're happy with and tweak it where necessary...price is price and has no bearing on service whatsoever...ultimately I'd do the research and take the plunge so to speak...

 

Good luck eitherway and welcome to the forum!!!

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The thing is I don`t want to work on a daily basis, or see a lot of punters,  maybe see about 4 clients a week max.  Plus, I don`t want to work in the city I live in as its not that big a place and don`t want to constantly be bumping into punters while in town, so I have to factor in travel costs.  I`ve looked at other independent escort websites and in Edinburgh and Glasgow there`s a lot of girls charging 200 pounds and even 250 pounds an hour. 

 

 As for humility, its an overrated trait, I don`t walk around thinking I`m the hottest thing that ever lived,  but you see what you see when you look in the mirror, no need for false modesty.

 

ah. so will you be outcall only or will you get a hotel room for the day you work?  You will have to think how your costs work.

if you pay £50 for a hotel and have to travel etc, then you may find your profit only comes out at under £150. 

mebbe a day in a parlour may be more lucrative. 

But that depends on what you want.  make most money, see a few for pocket money or get lots of shags.

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'High class' is a marketing term and completely meaningless - most people just read it as 'expensive' and/or pretentious. There is nothing 'high class' about sucking off strangers in a Travellodge, no matter how much you decide to charge them.

 

AdorableAmy, you`re completely right but there always seems to be a certain air of difference, however fake and pretentious,  between sucking of a builder in a Travel Lodge and sucking off the CEO of a company in a Malmaison hotel ;) x

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I don`t want to slave away in a minimum wage job while I`m studying CoventryPunter.  I`m not looking to make a lot of money out of escorting nor do I see it as a long term thing, but basically I`d like to make between 1000-1200 pounds a month to make ends meet and also afford a few luxuries while I`m living the student life.  And yes, I`d only be doing outcalls.  And no, I wouldn`t shag more than 1 guy a day.  Don`t know, I completely lack morals when it comes to sex and making money out of sex but the thought of shagging countless guys in 1 day makes me feel kind of icky.  Don`t know why but it does.

 

As for websites, photos etc, I`d bulid my own website  as I`m quite techy but get professional photos....oh also, about that, there`s countless escorts with perfect bodies and I think my real selling point would be to have photos where my face is visible on my website...is this a very very bad idea?  I don`t really give a crap about people I know coming across it but is it still a very bad idea to have photos with your face visible on escorting websites???

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One thing to bear in mind is that the market has changed in the last few years- more women, less money and starting or starting anew is much harder than it once was. Many clients are less willing to take a risk on a new escort and stick to tried and tested regulars.

 

However, you may get an initial rush as a 'new girl' but you need to work hard to get them to come back. That means being excellent at what you do. Just being attractive isn't enough- being professional, polite, reliable, doing the services you say you offer and with enthusiasm. 

 

You may be good looking but good looking women are ten a penny and you need something to stand out. As someone else has said, a USP or something that will appeal to men in your area- that could be as simple as English being your first language or a particular service.

 

Also, bear in mind that just being hot will attract men, but not always the kind of men you want to meet. I think that often very attractive women get the clients  whose only aim is to fuck a fit bird which is fine if you want to be treated like that, but you need more about you to get *nice* men you enjoy spending time with.

 

You're obviously articulate so I'm sure your profile will be well written which is important, but I agree with other comments, being too confident in your looks can come across as arrogant and put people off. 

 

Finally, it make take some trial and error pricing wise. No harm in starting at £200 and seeing how it goes. If you're not getting the bookings you want you can always try a 'special offer' to see how that works, rather than simply knocking down your prices. 

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One thing to bear in mind is that the market has changed in the last few years- more women, less money and starting or starting anew is much harder than it once was. Many clients are less willing to take a risk on a new escort and stick to tried and tested regulars.

 

However, you may get an initial rush as a 'new girl' but you need to work hard to get them to come back. That means being excellent at what you do. Just being attractive isn't enough- being professional, polite, reliable, doing the services you say you offer and with enthusiasm. 

 

You may be good looking but good looking women are ten a penny and you need something to stand out. As someone else has said, a USP or something that will appeal to men in your area- that could be as simple as English being your first language or a particular service.

 

Also, bear in mind that just being hot will attract men, but not always the kind of men you want to meet. I think that often very attractive women get the clients  whose only aim is to fuck a fit bird which is fine if you want to be treated like that, but you need more about you to get *nice* men you enjoy spending time with.

 

You're obviously articulate so I'm sure your profile will be well written which is important, but I agree with other comments, being too confident in your looks can come across as arrogant and put people off. 

 

Finally, it make take some trial and error pricing wise. No harm in starting at £200 and seeing how it goes. If you're not getting the bookings you want you can always try a 'special offer' to see how that works, rather than simply knocking down your prices. 

 

lydia is right but i would add.

the admin has to work.  If making a booking is a trial punters will go elsewhere. Make sure your diary system works. 

be reliable.  If you get a reputation for letting punters down that will make it hard for you.

and if English is your first language, make sure you fill in the adultwork interview and put 'English' as your first language.  Many punters will seek out British girls.  (Dont put Scottish in - people wont search on that, tho you could put it in as secondary)language if you want, unless you are not Scottish)

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Oh dear the moment I read your opening post I thought...'here we go'.

 

It doesn't matter whether you post here or Saafe you will get the same reaction.  Some of the guys here feel that it's a buyers market and because they are the ones putting their hand's in their pocket they pretty much call the shot's with regards to pricing and will encourage you to price down.  Some will see your confidence as being up yourself, others will be put out if you really are that attractive and you put yourself out of their price range, others will say that they can see lots of stunners for next to nothing. 

 

If you go over to Saafe and ask the same question there you will be flamed down for entirely different reasons.  If you genuinely are that attractive (and remember that beauty has to come from inside as well as out), then the competition alone will put some *not all* backs up and the advice will not be as it should be.

 

Only you really know the answer to that question sweetheart.  Your the one looking in the mirror, your the one that knows whether you can provide an experience that's worth £200 for an hour, and again I stress its not all about looks.

 

My advice is simply to charge what YOU think your worth, you don't have to get doing Anal or any other service you don't want to do either.   Not so long back there was a very popular escort (now retired) who pretty much everybody loved that charged around the £120/150 mark and didn't even offer penetrative sex (she danced for her men), she was a very cute girl and had an amazing personality so could easily command that sort of money.

 

If you really do have those looks (and I don't doubt you) then it's doubtful that the sort of men you would market yourself to would even be here in the first place.  You don't find men that consider £500 pin money posting here that's for sure. 

 

The only bit of advice I can really give you is to know your market, do your research, if your going down the exclusive route then try to be creative with your website and understand that like all things the more you put in the more you get out.

 

Good luck with it.

 

Holly x

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 A lot of questions from someone who already has 6 months experience in the game . Are you sure you are a woman and not a man winding people up ? 

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LOL, Its not like I`m going to walk into a hotel room swishing my hair about and going on about how gorgeous I think I am ;)  I am actually quite down to earth in my general attitude, I was just going on about my looks on here because I wanted to know if it could have anything to do with the rates I charge.  I had a lot of regular clients when I worked for an escorting agency in my early 20`s, I wasn`t particularly sexually experienced back then, quite vanilla when it came to sex, but I was a good conversationalist and managed to put men at ease as a lot of them seemed very nervous initially and a lot of them always wanted to see me again, not sure why but maybe it was because I didn`t act like the stereotype of a hooker, just acted like friends meeting up for a shag or something even though they were complete strangers.  Also, I have no idea why but I tended to attract quite posh and successful men, maybe because I went to private school, don`t really know why.   But that was back in 2004 and like you said, the market has probably changed a lot since then and people have a lot less money to spend on the extravaganza of an hour with a call girl.

 

English is my first language but I speak with a posh and slightly foreign accent....

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'High class' is a marketing term and completely meaningless - most people just read it as 'expensive' and/or pretentious. There is nothing 'high class' about sucking off strangers in a Travellodge, no matter how much you decide to charge them.

 

AdorableAmy, you`re completely right but there always seems to be a certain air of difference, however fake and pretentious,  between sucking of a builder in a Travel Lodge and sucking off the CEO of a company in a Malmaison hotel ;) x

 

After being a perfectly ordinary bog standard prostitute for better than ten years, I can categorically assure you that there is not - one person's money is no different than another's and the banks certainly don't discriminate. The main difference in my experience at least is that the builder is likely to be a far more pleasant punter to deal with.

 

As for the dreadfully overpriced and often distinctly tatty Malmaisons, I can't think of a better example of a marketing campaign (along with some odd-coloured paint and enough cheap satin to dress a provincial pantomine's chorus line) triumphing over actual quality.

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I think my real selling point would be to have photos where my face is visible on my website...is this a very very bad idea?  I don`t really give a crap about people I know coming across it but is it still a very bad idea to have photos with your face visible on escorting websites???

 

This is another 'how long is a piece of string question' really - it depends entirely on your future plans and your personal circumstances. If it would be a disaster either personally or professionally at some stage if you were outed then yes. If not, then no.

 

One thing you can't do is make face pics disappear once they've been on the internet, so I'd err on the side of caution to start with. You can change your mind easily enough when you've thought about it a bit more and gained some experience, but you can't unchange it again :).

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 A lot of questions from someone who already has 6 months experience in the game . Are you sure you are a woman and not a man winding people up ? 

I was very young at the time, it was years and years ago and basically because I worked through an agency, I didn`t have to do anything apart from turn up, have a little chitchat  and then have sex.  There`s a lot more issues and problems to deal with if you`re going to work independently.  Basically if you work for an agency they do all the marketing etc, if you`re going to work independently there`s a gazillion things to think about.  Also, like I said before it was years ago when I last worked as an escort, things have completely changed now.

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It doesn't matter if you look like Angelina Jolie with big breasts, looks mean different to everyone. Its about how good the service you provide is.

You start at a reasonable price, I'd say £120 in London which will draw clients to you and assuming you're doing a good job and the word spreads, your popularity increases your prices can as well.

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I don`t want to slave away in a minimum wage job while I`m studying CoventryPunter.  I`m not looking to make a lot of money out of escorting nor do I see it as a long term thing, but basically I`d like to make between 1000-1200 pounds a month to make ends meet and also afford a few luxuries while I`m living the student life.  And yes, I`d only be doing outcalls.  And no, I wouldn`t shag more than 1 guy a day.  Don`t know, I completely lack morals when it comes to sex and making money out of sex but the thought of shagging countless guys in 1 day makes me feel kind of icky.  Don`t know why but it does.

 

As for websites, photos etc, I`d bulid my own website  as I`m quite techy but get professional photos....oh also, about that, there`s countless escorts with perfect bodies and I think my real selling point would be to have photos where my face is visible on my website...is this a very very bad idea?  I don`t really give a crap about people I know coming across it but is it still a very bad idea to have photos with your face visible on escorting websites???

 

In my experience (from myself and my escorting friends) is that limiting to outcalls will seriously lower the number of bookings you will get. Most men don't have a hotel room to invite an escort to, and if you're going to do outcalls to private homes you have the extra worry of security or an irate wife coming home early! 

 

That fact you think shagging more man a day as icky also makes me think you're probably not quite cut out for this game and that attitude won't win you any friends in the whoring world! 

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