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Hand Job Vs Penis Getting Massaged

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Okay so, if a massage therapist offers a HJ then that place is deemed a brothel, but what if she does not offer a hand job but just as in the same way she massaged your body she also massaged your penis?  So now, not a brothel right?

 

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its a brothel

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Okay so, if a massage therapist offers a HJ then that place is deemed a brothel, but what if she does not offer a hand job but just as in the same way she massaged your body she also massaged your penis?  So now, not a brothel right?

 

 

No.  It is deemed a brothel if two or more women offer sexual services.

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No.  It is deemed a brothel if two or more women offer sexual services.

 

Now that is a good point that you made here..............

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No.  It is deemed a brothel if two or more women offer sexual services.

Its also a brothel if only 1 WG offers a sexual service but another woman or women work from the same premises at any other time.

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HigH!

 

Okay so, if a massage therapist offers a HJ then that place is deemed a brothel, but what if she does not offer a hand job but just as in the same way she massaged your body she also massaged your penis?  So now, not a brothel right?

 

Thanks

 

B

 

Why do you ask?

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Why do you ask?

 

Maybe because he is thinking of having the op and then offering this service himself :rolleyes:

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Its also a brothel if only 1 WG offers a sexual service but another woman or women work from the same premises at any other time.

 

WTF!!!!!

 

The law really has tied up almost every single loose end............

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I thought the law was gender neutral? I know it's not the most important factor here, but it could mean curtains for our BM if he's planning to get hands on (rather than just posting threads about it for another five years or so) :rolleyes:.

 

Either way, I suspect if somebody was massaging a penis in such a dull and non specific way that it could not possibly be construed as a sexual service, they wouldn't be in business for long. Many crap FRs would surely result?

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WTF!!!!!

 

The law really has tied up almost every single loose end............

one girl, working from the flat with no other girls working there even on different days...not a brothel

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one girl, working from the flat with no other girls working there even on different days...not a brothel

 

Actually, that's not always true.

 

If there are multiple flats in a single building where the girls are "effectively working together", then that too is a brothel.

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Actually, that's not always true.

 

If there are multiple flats in a single building where the girls are "effectively working together", then that too is a brothel.

No, if there are multipile rooms in a hotel booked and being used by escorts technically it is a brothel. In the case of the apartment building each apartment is classed as an individual dwelling so they are not linked. If they are independents then there is no law being broken and if they are an agency they must be linked in some way to be recognised as relevent to each other, swapping girls or run by the same person even under different agency names. If they are completely independent of each other a raid on one will not lead to a raid on the other.  

 

Even if there are multiple apartments in the same building then they will have the numbers of all associated dwellings and they will abe covered by a search warrent but all apartments being rented out by individuals not involved in any way in prostitution in that building will not be covered by a search warrant as they are  not associated dwellings, saying that though associated dwellings can be in completely different parts of town and be covered by the warrent. The building itself cannot be classed as a brothel unless all the dwellings within are for the purposes of prostitution.

 

In the case of one apartment even. If one girl rents one room and has the sole use of that room and a contract to rent that room with a key and no other person can gain access to that room ever and another girl rents a separate room in that dwelling with a contract and sole use of that room no one else has a key or uses it ever then even then its not  brothel even if one of them or both happens to be independents and on the game, so long as they never work together, do not take bookings for each other and never use each others rooms, also of course so long as no outside source is controlling their bookings, as each room is classed as a separate dwelling.

 

At least thats what I read when I was reading up on it last year. Of course I could be wrong, there was a list of ammendments and addidums as long as my arm that I ran out of energy to read to be honest.

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In the case of one apartment even. If one girl rents one room and has the sole use of that room and a contract to rent that room with a key and no other person can gain access to that room ever and another girl rents a separate room in that dwelling with a contract and sole use of that room no one else has a key or uses it ever then even then its not  brothel even if one of them or both happens to be independents and on the game, so long as they never work together, do not take bookings for each other and never use each others rooms, also of course so long as no outside source is controlling their bookings, as each room is classed as a separate dwelling.

 

At least thats what I read when I was reading up on it last year. Of course I could be wrong, there was a list of ammendments and addidums as long as my arm that I ran out of energy to read to be honest.

 

You are (as usual) correct, but that doesn't contradict what I said.  The case law requires that the girls are working together.  All the caveats you put in your example are to avoid that situation.  I specifically included that the girls needed to be effectively working together in my comment.

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You are (as usual) correct, but that doesn't contradict what I said.  The case law requires that the girls are working together.  All the caveats you put in your example are to avoid that situation.  I specifically included that the girls needed to be effectively working together in my comment.

Yes but even if the girls are all in different apartments and working together, for the same agency the building itself is still not a brothel. You said the building would be a brothel..it isnt unless the girls working together take up all the apartments, not sure if it would be classed as that even then but...Im sure you can find out 

 

by the way, the mentioning that I am as usual correct was a needless dig, getting rather sick of you and other members on here taking cheap shots at me, dont any of you have the strengh of character to rise above that sort of childish quip? I have never said anywhere that I think i am right all the time. I argue my point and thats all, no more severely than I have seen you yourself do many a time x

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Yes but even if the girls are all in different apartments and working together, for the same agency the building itself is still not a brothel. You said the building would be a brothel..it isnt unless the girls working together take up all the apartments, not sure if it would be classed as that even then but...Im sure you can find out 

 

Okay - that's splitting hairs.  The set of apartments within that building containing girls working together would constitute a brothel, not the whole building.

 

 

 

by the way, the mentioning that I am as usual correct was a needless dig, getting rather sick of you and other members on here taking cheap shots at me, dont any of you have the strengh of character to rise above that sort of childish quip? I have never said anywhere that I think i am right all the time. I argue my point and thats all, no more severely than I have seen you yourself do many a time x

 

That wasn't a dig - just a statement.

 

Although there are many areas of opinion where we disagree, whenever you state something which is factual (e.g. like these legal points) you are usually right.

 

That's all I was meaning here - no cheap shots.

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No, if there are multipile rooms in a hotel booked and being used by escorts technically it is a brothel.  

 

 

That wouldn't make the hotel a brothel.

 

If escort A works out of a room on one floor of the hotel and escort B works in another room on a different floor, then the hotel wouldn't technically be a brothel even if they're working together.

 

If they have inter-connecting rooms and work out of those rooms together then those rooms would be a brothel for the period of their stay.

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Okay - that's splitting hairs.  The set of apartments within that building containing girls working together would constitute a brothel, not the whole building.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Unfortunatley the law splits the hairs and being the wrong slice of hair can make the difference between court and not. Seems like I am not always right, as Silverado has pointed out below x

 

That wouldn't make the hotel a brothel.

 

If escort A works out of a room on one floor of the hotel and escort B works in another room on a different floor, then the hotel wouldn't technically be a brothel even if they're working together.

 

If they have inter-connecting rooms and work out of those rooms together then those rooms would be a brothel for the period of their stay.

Wish I had known that years ago when my friend and I did two girl together, we still booked separate rooms just in case lol

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Seems like I am not always right

Whoever said you were?! Finally, an admission!

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