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Jodie Marsh 'on The Game'

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Just came across this - looks like it is going to be quite a biased programme!

 

http://tv.uk.msn.com/features/jodie-marsh-on-the-game-jodie-marsh-on-prostitution-pimps-and-pretty-woman

 

One of them I felt a bit sorry for, because he's the sort of bloke who probably has to pay for sex because there is no way he'd get it otherwise. He didn't really have anything going for him, so there's no way he'd get sex on his own.

 

It appears she visited both the street scene and brothels but I cannot see this one showing more than a very one sided view.

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So, it is fine for her to strip and sell images of her body for loads of lads to toss over in lads mags? That's not exploitation?

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Oh don't get me started on her... I wrote about her in my blog a couple of weeks ago when she was doing the rounds in the press. The Sun's headline was 'Filming Show About Hookers Has Put me Off Sex For Life' other quotes include  ‘Mostly the thing they had in common was they’d all been forced into it by a man. And their lives were shit', and the obligitary "they were just all off their heads on drugs."  

 

So, you can see why I didn't think it looked very balanced and asked her on twitter why she didn't think to meet with sex workers happy in their work. She said she did and had a bit of a go at me for judging the programme before I had seen it. Fair enough, but really, those quotes don't bode well. 

 

Brooke Magnanti wrote about Marsh today and also mentions twitter interactions where was was rude to Madame Becky who appears in the show http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/10389222/Jodie-Marsh-the-UKs-sex-workers-are-watching-you.html

 

It would be lovely if one day someone could make a programme about prostitution that didn't talk about 'harsh realities', desperate women, dirty old men and shots of red lights, dark alleyways and all the usual cliches. 

 

I don't have access to TLC, the tin potty little channel it is showing on so I won't be able to watch it, but am pretty sure my sex worker colleagues will be watching and reporting back.

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There are things you are not allowed to say as they upset conventional wisdom. The modern take on prostitutes are they are exploited. End of. Any evidence or comments to the contrary are not allowed. We punters are all pathetic, or sexist bastards so do not expect any witty charming guys to appear

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Jodie Marsh looks like an extra from the Munsters.  I can't take her seriously and I expect the show will be the usual cliche-ridden guff that gets aired for the prurient delight of those who think all paid sex is seedy.  I'm sure she can be relied upon to trot out a few agreeable soundbytes along these lines:  "There's nothing empowering about it - it's demoralising, degrading, dirty, and loveless."  

 

I'll read this thread, after the programme airs, for a more accurate analysis.  That'll save 30 minutes of my life.  

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Whilst my expectations are low, the preview blurb from TLC sounds almost balanced

In ‘Jodie Marsh On…The Game’, Jodie turns her attention from push-ups to prostitution.  Having spent a large part of her life monetising her image as a glamour model and bodybuilder, Jodie has a real sense of what it's like to sell your body. Having also worked as a pole-dancer, she will be using her own personal experience of the potential pitfalls that tempt women in the trade.  She will be finding out where she, and the wider public, draws the line when it comes to people selling their bodies, and how attitudes have changed to the world’s oldest profession.   To do that, she will put herself into the shoes of a working girl and really get under the skin of the vice industry.  She will also be meeting people involved in the escorting and prostitution industry - female and male escorts, prostitutes, madams and punters - and revealing their stories. 

Lets see shall we ?

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Yes Becky Adams was unsurprisingly upset at the rudeness of Jodie's twitter comments. The show's staff, I understand, contacted Becky to apologise and they got some tweets removed.

 

I cannot recall what I was told about how Jodie behaved in and around the show with Becky but it takes something to upset her, I can tell you.

 

Is there a way for non-Sky bods to see the channel it's on?

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It would be lovely if one day someone could make a programme about prostitution that didn't talk about 'harsh realities', desperate women, dirty old men and shots of red lights, dark alleyways and all the usual cliches.

There will be one coming up soon done by Rupert Everett. He has done documentaries before.

 

Jodie Marsh said that 70% of the lap dancers she worked with were lesbians, they had been turned off sex with men because of their work. This is obvious rubbish, women don't become lesbians because they are put off having sex with men. That's a very old-fashioned idea. I would think most lesbians would object to her statement (70% of them I should think).

 

She also said 70% of the WGs she saw in Amsterdam were trafficked. I think she has taken a leaf out of the Radical Feminists book and decided that it makes her sound clever if she gives these precise but spurious statistics. When she says that 70% of a certain group of people are something, what she means is that she's decided that most are.

 

The other thing that annoyed me about her newspaper article is that she said that young women must hate having to have sex with older men, who she describes as perverts. What is perverted about a man, even if he is older, wanting to have sex with a beautiful young woman? At what age does a man's sexual feelings, which aren't going to change much throughout his lifetime, change from being normal to perverted? When I turned 40 did my sexual feelings become a perversion?

 

Some women like older men, and some WGs prefer an older more considerate man than a rowdy youth.

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Is there a way for non-Sky bods to see the channel it's on?

I have done some checking and apparently TLC is available on Sky (125), Virgin (167), BT (875) and Youview via the TalkTalk Player. If, like me, you have none of those options available, sometimes these things appear on Youtube after the event. i will check tomorrow.

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Would be grateful if anyone has a way to let me watch given that all the research Kantos has done (thanks) leaves me still unable to watch - as far as I know.

 

A few weeks ago I wouldn't have thought I could watch Sky Sports but now can so maybe there are legal workarounds for this too.

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Here is the email I got from the producers just about a year ago:

 

Hi Amy,

Sorry to bother you. I am working on a TV programme for Discovery - on the glamour industry with Jodie Marsh.

I thought your website looked very professional (and upmarket), so I thought I'd start at the top and work my way slowly down!

The reason for the programme, is as a former stripper Jodie is keen to challenge the nations preconceptions of the sex industry.

With that in mind we are looking to capture a flavour of the high-end escort industry - and are looking to chat to a female escort/entrepreneur, who is proud of what she does and lives for the most part an aspirational lifestyle.

It's a non judgemental programme, this is an adult discussion about the adult industry, part of the line of the argument is that in Europe adult workers in the sex industry are accepted, even regulated and we are looking at the UK possibly getting with that trend.

Jumping the gun, we are aware that for some revealing their identity on camera may be a problem and we would respect that in some cases by obscuring the identity (although would rather not if possible).

If you would like to discuss further, let me know and I'll drop you a line.

Many thanks for your time.

Ben

 

I get a lot of this trite, poorly thought out crap and so do other people I know, which I daresay is the main reason that there are no realistic portrayals of comfy indoor workers plodding along handwashing endless stockings, refilling the condom boxes and poring over the special offers on the laundry stuff in Wilko. We've got better things to do with our time, and because our day-to-day business is so incredibly mundane and there isn't much crowd-pleasing stuff for the production team, there's the constant concern about efforts to jazz things up a bit :rolleyes:.

 

The various Z-listers are hired to front these things on the basis that their presence will attract more viewers and beyond being paid to be told to 'stand there and say this' I doubt very much whether poor old Jodie had any more input into the content than I did. Thank God I don't have these crappy minority channels and can watch a music documentary on BBC4 or something instead.

 

" it's demoralising, degrading, dirty, and loveless."  

 

Yeah, that's the part I like.

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Why does anybody bother what a loser like Jodie Marsh thinks or says? Ive a helluva lot more time for escorts then that woman. Sounds to me she is a bit jealous of escorts?

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Seemed a bit of a one dimensional take on the subject lazy journalism if you ask me.

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Just one more way for the dozy woman to chase her five min's of fame.  Her agents and managers must be having a hard time finding stuff for her now after they have exhausted most other avenues.

 

I think this woman has a problem with her own sexuality to start with, why else would she be trying to make herself look like a man with all those tats and the body building stuff?  I watched an interview she did following the ganging she attended, would have made a good comedy sketch, she was going on about these women having no respect for themselves.....  This from the woman that got splashed all over the papers for going out in public wearing nothing but a belt.  At least our ladies keep it behind closed doors so I would say they are showing for more restraint and respect for themselves and the men they meet.

 

This program will be just as boring as everything else she has done.

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Forgot to watch it, the excellent Elementary clashed I think.

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Last week's "Jodie Marsh ... On Steroids" is currently available on Youtube. I reckon if we give it a few days (allowing TLC the chance to repeat the programme a few times), it will be similarly available.

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Why does anybody bother what a loser like Jodie Marsh thinks or says?

 

Just one more way for the dozy woman to chase her five min's of fame. 

 

Jodie Marsh looks like an extra from the Munsters.   

 

All three comments being true.    It's a pity that there are people out there who do actually watch self obsessed fame seeking twits like her when they appear on television (or newspapers etc) but that's life.

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There are things you are not allowed to say as they upset conventional wisdom. The modern take on prostitutes are they are exploited. End of. Any evidence or comments to the contrary are not allowed. We punters are all pathetic, or sexist bastards so do not expect any witty charming guys to appear

 

I don't think that prostitutes are exploited by punters.   I think it's the other way round.   All the ladies that I've seen have exploited my weakness for wanting to have an enjoyable time with an attractive lady who, if I wasn't paying her, probably wouldn't consider having sex with me.    I've enjoyed being exploited (most of the time) and don't mind ill informed and ignorant bigots saying that I am "pathetic" because they don't know who I am.  

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Why does anybody bother what a loser like Jodie Marsh thinks or says? Ive a helluva lot more time for escorts then that woman. Sounds to me she is a bit jealous of escorts?

 

On what basis is Jodie Marsh a 'loser', exactly? I don't have any particular opinion about her one way or the other, but her 'crime' seems to be that she's been hired to do a job which is present and promote a TV programme for a tinpot company which has put together what is doubtless tawdry, salacious content and a crap and disingenuous script to try and make the slack jawed blancmanges who watch this rubbish pick their TV channel above somebody else's.

 

Whilst it's possibly fair to say that she ought to have found out a bit more about the cobblers she was being asked to say if she wanted to at least feign a bit of integrity, I don't see how making cheap shots about her perceived intelligence, education (which she has far more of than I have) or being rude about her personal appearance adds anything to the discussion? The people ultimately responsible for this sort of vapid shite seem to be getting off pretty lightly.

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Yes Becky Adams was unsurprisingly upset at the rudeness of Jodie's twitter comments. The show's staff, I understand, contacted Becky to apologise and they got some tweets removed.

 

I cannot recall what I was told about how Jodie behaved in and around the show with Becky but it takes something to upset her, I can tell you.

 

Is there a way for non-Sky bods to see the channel it's on?

 

 

Marsh is a hideous creature, ugly on the inside too, and absolutely the worst kind of bullying monster you could ever expect to find. Given her massive ego and past record of appalling bitchiness on her blog and malevolent Twittering (as archived here) I am not in the least surprised that she managed to say something rude enough that the producers had to clear up after her.

 

Nothing fronted by Jodie Marsh is going to be a reasoned, intelligent or illuminating experience. She is that most unwelcome and worthless kind of whore - the kind with the word fame in front

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There will be one coming up soon done by Rupert Everett. He has done documentaries before.

 

Jodie Marsh said that 70% of the lap dancers she worked with were lesbians, they had been turned off sex with men because of their work. This is obvious rubbish, women don't become lesbians because they are put off having sex with men. That's a very old-fashioned idea. I would think most lesbians would object to her statement (70% of them I should think).

 

This is a woman who went on a UK-wide search for a husband as part of a reality TV show (classy! but then it was MTV!), with the channel picking up the tab for a TV wedding. Producers weren't best pleased to discover that the chosen groom was a bloke Jodie had been secretly dating all along from before the show had even gone into production. Not long after the pair of them were 'outed' for this particular con they inevitably went their separate ways and Jodie subsequently did the lesbian thing for a few months chiefly to keep her name in the tabloids and gossip magazines :wacko:

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On what basis is Jodie Marsh a 'loser', exactly? I don't have any particular opinion about her one way or the other, but her 'crime' seems to be that she's been hired to do a job which is present and promote a TV programme for a tinpot company which has put together what is doubtless tawdry, salacious content and a crap and disingenuous script to try and make the slack jawed blancmanges who watch this rubbish pick their TV channel above somebody else's.

 

 

Her crime is being a self righteous phony and being Judgmental to boot. If she is so righteous why does she have boob jobs and make herself a sex object ? Shes as much a prostitute as the ones she purports to depict though not worthy as the same respect.

 

Anyhow I know its impolite to remark negatively on a persons facial features but you know when you are looking at something and your brain is not too sure what it is so it just makes something up ? Well that's the Vibe i'm  getting when I look at her nose. :unsure:

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A sad thing is if you allow yourself to follow Jodie's twitter account for a short time you can see all the many women plus men praising her programme and the stance she took...

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I just finished watching the program, at the beginning Jodie seamed to be more open minded, but got quite prudish and judgemental, just because she wouldn't choose the job. She swallowed all the propaganda, 70% of hookers In Amsterdam are traffiked, did she ask every hooker In the city this?

I notice she visited Totalclub Osnabrueck, the manager Jessica was a nice bird, might have to go visit.

She must know her self many glamour models and porn actresses escort, these will be the same people she might bump Into at clubs and parties In London, just because they might keep It discreet doesn't mean It don't happen.

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It appears she visited both the street scene and brothels but I cannot see this one showing more than a very one sided view.

 

Well it was very one sided but not as bad as I thought it might be.

The street scene in Manchester highlighted how bad we are at caring for people with drug/alcohol problems. Quite who would want to pay for sex with these women is beyond me.

I've wandered around the RLD in Belgium cities of Brussels and Gent with their shop windows as Amsterdam has. Not for me either. I did speak to one girl, she was from France just over the border and worked there once a week for cash as it is legal there, not in France and required no costs from her apart from renting the 'window'. 70% trafficed women in Amsterdam? Who was the man who said that I didn't catch his involvment, did he have actual evidence? I'm not saying it doesnt go on, but that seems high. Maybe it is there.

I think the place in Osnabruck Germany was chosen just because it had a gang bang on, just for affect. Normally its just a flat rate club. I dont like those places either. GFE? No way. That seemed to be a place shown in a more positive light, better for the ladies, but still with a '€90 all you can fuck' slant. They should have tried a FKK/Sauna club type of place for a better German 'role model' place. But that wouldn't have fitted their brief it seems.

At least one of the ladies in the escort agency types they interviewed said some punters just want to 'make love'. The part with the 2 who set up their own agency gave an indication of the least seedy goings on with them being in control.

No interviews with the type of ladies I've visited regularly in the past who make a decent living from 'the game'.

There are different 'levels' of prostitution and different 'levels' of punters. All tarred with the same brush is a phrase which springs to mind.

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