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Punting Phone Problems

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For reasons too complicated to explain I no longer have a punting phone and it is too dangerous to even consider getting another one under any circumstances.   Trying to hide the existence of another punting phone is not an option.

 

I've thought of a possible answer but, as I have said on here before I am a dummy when it comes to technology, don't know whether it's a feasible solution.    

 

I have an iPhone 4s on contract.   Is it possible to remove the sim; insert a pay-as-you-go sim; use it for punting calls; and then put the original sim back in and use it as normal until the next time?    Hiding a micro-sim would be much easier than trying to hide a phone. 

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Yes you could that as long as your phone is not locked to a particular network.  If so you can only use sims from that network HOWEVER your phone will probably still have your dialing history.

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The call log can be deleted. So take care to erase evidence.

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I've used my personal iPhone a couple of times since losing the use of my punting phone and on each occasion have deleted calls and texts.

I should have said that one of the things that I want to avoid (and that's why I don't want to continue using my personal phone) is because then the wg has information that I really don't want her to have. There is always the possibility that she might call me forgetting, or not realising, that she is not calling a dedicated punting phone.

A few months ago a lady that I have become friendly with sent me a text asking "can I call you?" She got the two numbers mixed up and accidentally sent it to the wrong phone. Not as bad as if she had actually called but my wife was with me at the time and it did require some quick thinking.

I would think that, unless you are not in a relationship, it is best to have a different number for punting.

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If you're on an O2 contract, get yourself a spare micro sim from GiffGaff. They use the O2 network backbone.

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You could also look at a VOIP application (e.g. sipgate) so you don't even have a sim to worry about.

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Thank you Infinit. I've just checked out Sipgate and unfortunately they are shutting down as from tomorrow but thank you for taking the time to reply.

Thanks Nero. I am on O2 so I've downloaded the GiffGaff app and am sending of for my free sim. It looks as though that's the way for me to go.

Any other suggestions would be welcome not just for me but for others in the same boat. I could be wrong but I would have thought that what would suit one person might not be the solution for another. I know we get some aggro on here but it's things like this, when someone us prepared to help another, that show the milk of human kindness does flow and punters aren't pathetic selfish bastards.

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Ask O2 to unlock the phone then you can use any SIM you want.

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Tesco pay as you go sims will work as well as they use the o2 network. Plus they triple your credit so if you top uo £10 you actually get £30 credit to use in a month. You lose any unused free credit after a month but you don't lose the credit you pay for.

I'm not certain this offer applies to smartphone sims so best double check if you are interested.

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But how many calls do you make on your punting phone in a month for this to be an issue?

 

If you buy a normal PAYG, which doesn't write-off credit, and you don't register it (OK you miss out on the triple, but so what) then you have total anonymity - pay cash for it as well if you want to be extra sure.

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If you buy a normal PAYG, which doesn't write-off credit, and you don't register it (OK you miss out on the triple, but so what) then you have total anonymity - pay cash for it as well if you want to be extra sure.

 

Reasonable anonymity rather than total anonymity (depending on who is trying to identify you).

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But how many calls do you make on your punting phone in a month for this to be an issue?

If you buy a normal PAYG, which doesn't write-off credit, and you don't register it (OK you miss out on the triple, but so what) then you have total anonymity - pay cash for it as well if you want to be extra sure.

Not sure what your point is here...

You don't lose the credit you pay for so if you lose the free credit what does it matter? Last December I got a tesco pay and go sim for 99p, put £10 on it and stuck it in an old mobile phone. I paid cash so it's not registered, and I can just go in a shop with the top up card and pay cash to top it up again. Tesco topped it up my £10 to £30 and yes I lost some of the free credit after the month ran out but it didn't cost me anything anyway. Any calls you make comes off the free credit first so you don't start using your paid for credit until you've used or lost the free stuff. I've still got about £1.50 of the original credit left.

If the same offer is available for a smartphone sim then presumably you'd still have internet access which would obviously use the free credit up more quickly.

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  Not sure that using a iPhone for punting is a good move as far too much info is saved on them , bit like have a tag on you .God help you if wifey gets her hands on it and knows were to look gone be off with your balls ! :eek:

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Not sure that using a iPhone for punting is a good move as far too much info is saved on them , bit like have a tag on you .God help you if wifey gets her hands on it and knows were to look gone be off with your balls ! :eek:

It's actually quite easy to keep it clean if you know where to look, and you can always use one of the 'secret' apps to keep information in. If you know how to cover your tracks it's no more difficult than trying to explain your punting phone if she finds it!

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I agree with others about a punting sim. Just get any brand. All of them will be cheap.

 

I have 1Password for my phone. You can check emails (browse the web) and store information in it. The app is naturally locked. Easy to explain a password app away.

 

I assume your punting email is by Gmail. I just store all escorts info in Gmail Contacts. I only use the web-app and not the iPhone app but I'm sure that can also be doable just don't forget to log out! It's there whenever you need it and you don't have to save it to your phone. Gmail app is also easy to explain assuming your personal email is also from Gmail. Use private browsing to assure that no data is kept on Safari. But there are alternatives browser where you can lock it. Maybe you should look into those.

 

I'm sure there are other apps as well. Never install "Find my iPhone" app, if your wife knows your Apple ID you're doomed. Make sure she doesn't install it either!

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Than you slowhand. Interesting site mobilefun.co.uk and not just for what I'm looking for. Wish there was an app for it but then I'm lazy. Going to definitely order this sim adapter. This plus another sim should be the answer to my problem.

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Ask O2 to unlock the phone then you can use any SIM you want.

I've checked, with someone who unlocks phones as part of his business, and apparently if I have a sim that uses the O2 network I don't even have to get the phone unlocked.

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I've checked, with someone who unlocks phones as part of his business, and apparently if I have a sim that uses the O2 network I don't even have to get the phone unlocked.

That's correct, so as well as o2 you have options with Tesco mobile & Giff gaff. There may be others but I'm not too sure. Or did you mean it will work with any network?

Would the second sim adapter thingy you have to attach to your phone not raise suspicion if it was seen though?

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That's correct, so as well as o2 you have options with Tesco mobile & Giff gaff. There may be others but I'm not too sure. Or did you mean it will work with any network?

Would the second sim adapter thingy you have to attach to your phone not raise suspicion if it was seen though?

I'm not sure whethet the adapter will work with different sim card suppliers. I think I've read "not" but I'm not sure.

One of the reviews says that you can get it in the slot but that it's "a squeeze but managed eventually". So presumably it's not visible. I intend to find out.

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I'm not sure how well organised you would need to be, what security you can implement, if you can switch off one SIM when not required but if you research the techie side;

 

A dual SIM phone may work, some are cheap as well.

 

http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/samsung-e1202-dual-sim-mobile-phone-sim-free-unlocked-grey.html?utm_source=banner&utm_medium=home-left-banner-1&utm_campaign=Samsung-E1202-sim-free

 

http://nokia.indiatimes.com/nokia/nokia-dual-sim-phones/

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I'm not sure how well organised you would need to be, what security you can implement, if you can switch off one SIM when not required but if you research the techie side;

 

A dual SIM phone may work, some are cheap as well.

 

My dual SIM phone (a Samsung) lets me switch off either SIM (or both SIMs, I guess).  I don't use it as a punting phone (I use it for cheap international calls), so don't need to be secretive about it, but there may be a couple of giveaways if that's what you want to use it for.

 

When both SIMs are active, you get a signal strength in the status bar for each one - but if you turn off a SIM then you only have one signal strength displayed.

 

However, there is an "active SIM" indicator in the status bar too (this is an android phone btw) which is a little SIM shaped icon with a 1 or 2 in it - not even really sure what it is meant to indicate (since I can receive calls on either SIM whichever is marked as active).  That is always there - so may create some suspicion.

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