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The Times Today - More Generalisations

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  Janice Turner writes in The Times today

 

"Prostitution is a profession overwhelmingly pursued by former care home children, the homeless, addicted, trafficked and sexually abused. Ditto the porn industry"

 

I nearly choked on my cornflakes

 

Uncle Pokey

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I met two girls who were ex-city bankers, an ex solicitor of the legal kind and about 20%

either have had, or still were, health serrvice professionals.

 

The bankers especially were much happier as hookers.

Nobody bossed them about they said.

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The Times journos are really The Sun scribes writing under a fancy title. They know nothing ( as Murdoch would say).

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It troubles me less that Glenda Slagg bashes out some crap to meet her deadline than that this sort of bilge is believed in by people who are in one way or another working in the anti-trafficking sector.

A few years back I found myself at a dinner party with a woman who worked for some sort of save-the-children from trafficking charity. She hadn't a clue. She had swallowed every idiotic idea that had ever been pushed around. I actually took her up on her conviction that the World Cup and the Olympics automatically led to a huge increase of trafficked prostitutes (mostly underage, of course), and took the trouble, afterwards, to send her a link to a research piece from a serious trafficking organization that rubbished the whole idea. But it made no difference. She was absolutely unmoveable.

In some ways she was very nice - and a transparently decent person, wanting to do good by her lights. But deary me, the road to hell and all that...

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the solution to this is quite simple.  Dont buy the bloody rag.  And write and tell them why you are stopping buying it.

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  Janice Turner writes in The Times today

 

"Prostitution is a profession overwhelmingly pursued by former care home children, the homeless, addicted, trafficked and sexually abused. Ditto the porn industry"

 

I nearly choked on my cornflakes

 

Uncle Pokey

Yes some of these groups can be found in prostitution

I bet she lives in Notting Hill.

They can also be found in that location.

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It troubles me less that Glenda Slagg bashes out some crap to meet her deadline than that this sort of bilge is believed in by people who are in one way or another working in the anti-trafficking sector.

A few years back I found myself at a dinner party with a woman who worked for some sort of save-the-children from trafficking charity. She hadn't a clue. She had swallowed every idiotic idea that had ever been pushed around. I actually took her up on her conviction that the World Cup and the Olympics automatically led to a huge increase of trafficked prostitutes (mostly underage, of course), and took the trouble, afterwards, to send her a link to a research piece from a serious trafficking organization that rubbished the whole idea. But it made no difference. She was absolutely unmoveable.

In some ways she was very nice - and a transparently decent person, wanting to do good by her lights. But deary me, the road to hell and all that...

Great post, Mr. B. Mirrors my experiences too. Spot-on.

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  Janice Turner writes in The Times today

 

"Prostitution is a profession overwhelmingly pursued by former care home children, the homeless, addicted, trafficked and sexually abused. Ditto the porn industry"

 

I nearly choked on my cornflakes

 

Uncle Pokey

I'll join you in choking on my coco pops.

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  Janice Turner writes in The Times today

 

"Prostitution is a profession overwhelmingly pursued by former care home children, the homeless, addicted, trafficked and sexually abused. Ditto the porn industry"

 

I nearly choked on my cornflakes

 

Uncle Pokey

 

  Janice Turner writes in The Times today

 

"Prostitution is a profession overwhelmingly pursued by former care home children, the homeless, addicted, trafficked and sexually abused. Ditto the porn industry"

 

I nearly choked on my cornflakes

 

Uncle Pokey

But not exclusively

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The Times journos are really The Sun scribes writing under a fancy title. They know nothing ( as Murdoch would say).

Its worse than that in my view, they do know the truth but that doesnt equate with their anti-prostitution agendas so they forget the truth to further those agendas.

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They write what they believe will appeal to their readership, or attract new readers (buyers).  The nobility of the press is long gone to be replaced by cynical market manipulation.  After all, who would be interested in an article that says " hey guess what, most prostitutes are independent business women doing it of their own choice and free will and are happy with their way of life".  Doesn't sell papers.

 

The fact is that most journalists can trot out whatever crap they like on subjects like prostitution because they know they'll never be challenged or called to account on it.  Same as the Mail's vilification of single mothers over the past years.  Picking on easy targets that can't hit back and which appeal to their readerships appetite for sanctimonious holier than thou disapproval of anyone that doesn't live the same buttoned up middle class lifestyle as them - whether by choice or by force of circumstance 

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I think that it would be lovely to have some good comparison statistics so we could get a true picture. For example on violence. Are prostitutes attacked more than say policewomen or female train staff? I am not being flippant but there must be a comparable table of job related violence.

Then we need a look at being forced into prostitution. It seems that modern analysis decides that no good girl would be a prostitute so all prostitutes must be forced into the role and therefore it must be defined in. Doing it for the money is a woman being forced by economic misery and so on.

Drugs? Are there more drug addled prostitutes than say bankers? Or media people?

And that lovely modern obsession trafficking. What are the true numbers? Does anyone really know?

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At the end of the day, the press is there for one thing and one thing only - to make money. And to do that they will trot out any old bollocks which they think will cause the increasingly gullible Great British Public to buy their paper and bugger the truth.

 

My granddad had the best use for the newspaper - he cut it into squares and used it instead of bog roll. mind you that was donkeys years ago when they were printed on decent paper!  

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In my experience in London I've come across a few escorts with 'party girl/socialite' pretensions. Though mainly I have met women who in their day job are fitness instructors, accountants, nurses or ex-nurses, and secretaries doing it as a side-line; lots of foreign women who are doing it to get by, exist in London and send money back to their families in their homelands (rather than being victims of 'trafficking'). Also lots of students escorting to pay their way through university or college courses. Via the higher end agencies, those were the overwhelming majority rather than the 'victim' segment referred to by Ms Turner.

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I notice how they always fail to differentiate between different types of sex workers.

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  Janice Turner writes in The Times today

 

"Prostitution is a profession overwhelmingly pursued by former care home children, the homeless, addicted, trafficked and sexually abused. Ditto the porn industry"

 

I nearly choked on my cornflakes

 

Uncle Pokey

Try more milk next time :)

Personally i believe only one good things ever come out of the papers and thats fish and chips

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I think that it would be lovely to have some good comparison statistics so we could get a true picture. For example on violence. Are prostitutes attacked more than say policewomen or female train staff? I am not being flippant but there must be a comparable table of job related violence.

Then we need a look at being forced into prostitution. It seems that modern analysis decides that no good girl would be a prostitute so all prostitutes must be forced into the role and therefore it must be defined in. Doing it for the money is a woman being forced by economic misery and so on.

Drugs? Are there more drug addled prostitutes than say bankers? Or media people?

And that lovely modern obsession trafficking. What are the true numbers? Does anyone really know?

This isnt brilliant,but its a starting point http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/causinj/violence/violence-at-work.pdf  

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Janice Turner writes in The Times today

"Prostitution is a profession overwhelmingly pursued by former care home children, the homeless, addicted, trafficked and sexually abused. Ditto the porn industry"

I nearly choked on my cornflakes

Uncle Pokey

It feels like a wildly broad brushed statement but I don't really have a view on whether it's correct or not. Put aside the homeless, abused, care home categories etc as they are more difficult to decipher. But my own experiences tend not to be with 'trafficked' escorts as I vet profiles which clearly have signs of eg multiple occupancy flats, similarly written profiles, cheap rates, no feedback etc.There typically are a lot of those whenever I conduct a search on AW. Now clearly that's not a definition of trafficked but does make me wonder what the proportion of these ladies are?

I do not believe it is an overwhelming proportion as they are sensationalist comments, but would be good to know if someone has trawled through profiles on AW to get some empirical evidence? Or do trafficked ladies appear on AW at all or are they typically found within agencies?

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There was something in the Times about Victoria Wood not being able to get a man - did anyone read it?

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