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A few social history questions for the older members, I know punting has changed because of the NET, including services offered.

   For the record, was BB common in the prior to the emergence of HIV? I find it hard to believe it was, as apparently DFK and OWO were not! How common were A levels and RO? I'm sure the regular favourite today of the 2 girl show was as popular then! When did baby wipes make an appearance? When did Tantric and NURU emerge? What was the prevalence of foreign women working in the trade? Did massage parlours outnumber indies? Were there clubs at the level of La Maison/Sandys/London Street Sauna? How regular if at all were parties and when did they become popular?

As there is much more travel now and no currency restrictions, I would say unless you lived abroad, your punting would be much more geographically restricted in the past. What was the attitude of the Plod?

My understanding is South American ladies were benefitting from the prevailing zeitgeist in Amsterdam windows in the 70s. 

I think it's fair to say every country has its own particular type of sex industry and the past is a foreign country!

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A levels were restricted to the homosexual community.

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A few social history questions for the older members, I know punting has changed because of the NET, including services offered.

   For the record, was BB common in the prior to the emergence of HIV? I find it hard to believe it was, as apparently DFK and OWO were not! How common were A levels and RO? I'm sure the regular favourite today of the 2 girl show was as popular then! When did baby wipes make an appearance? When did Tantric and NURU emerge? What was the prevalence of foreign women working in the trade? Did massage parlours outnumber indies? Were there clubs at the level of La Maison/Sandys/London Street Sauna? How regular if at all were parties and when did they become popular?

As there is much more travel now and no currency restrictions, I would say unless you lived abroad, your punting would be much more geographically restricted in the past. What was the attitude of the Plod?

My understanding is South American ladies were benefitting from the prevailing zeitgeist in Amsterdam windows in the 70s. 

I think it's fair to say every country has its own particular type of sex industry and the past is a foreign country!

I started punting in the 80s in London just as AIDS was thought to be going to destroy us all, so most WGs were very paranoid in my experiences and going on the info then coming out i didnt blame them. Kissing was very rare, it was for WGs partners only was the usual reason, OWO was a bit more common but nowhere near like as common as nowadays. RO was often on offer, i had and have no interest in Anal penetration. Cant recall regarding baby wipes. Many WGs offered a massage at the start of a booking as some still do, always a timewasting tactic in my experiences, no idea about Tantric or NURU. There were relatively few foreign WGs that i punted with, most were Brits including many Irish WGs who in the main were filthy, much missed by me nowadays.

 

There were many massage parlours and saunas, the term Indie wasnt in use, i usually located lone WGs through my local paper, in newsagent shop windows and through direct and indirect contact mags using an accomadation address, that was a slow process. I once had a WG mention a sex party to me but i didnt fancy the idea of it at the time, that was in the late 80s, i didnt get into them until the noughties. Never had any problem with the police.

 

THE most crucial step forward in my punting came in the mid to late 90s with the EE WG invasion, they completwly shook punting up in my area, they offered far more extensive services like Kissing and OWO as standard at a generally cheaper price, many Brit WGs followed suit. God bless those early EE WGs. Sadly it also led to less Brit WGs, the Irish WGs virtually disappeared from my area for example. To sum up my punting at the start was a generally much colder experience than nowadays, i say generally as i did punt with some very amateur WGs who were very warm which was very nice.

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A levels were restricted to the homosexual community.

 

One of my all-time worst experiences was in a massage parlour in Chalk Farm. When I expressed an interest in examining the girl's botty, I was told, "This isn't a gay place, you know." Period? Doubt it was earlier than 1980.

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When I started in the mid - 80s:

* Every girl's number was a landline

* Every lady had a muff...as did every bloke

* BB was non - existent. As Smiths said we were all going to hell with Aids! Condom's stank the room out in a burnt rubbery smell!

* In Brum, 1 girl did OWO & About 2 offered A.

* DFK was virtually taboo.

* £40 could get you an hour with a decent girl

* I was earning less than £10k

 

* I'm sure I was a sex machine...but time dims the truth!! :)  :)

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When did baby wipes make an appearance? 

 

Basic baby wipes were introduced around 30 years ago which must have been a boon to the wg.............. think how much she would save on tea towels!

 

Imagine a punting world with no mobile phones or the internet.... yet it was as thriving as ever.... with "madams" arranging rings of girls and the clients....equivalent to today's agency owners I suppose.

 

I think A was there for the men too but perhaps not so widely offered.

 

£30-40 per hour would have been perfectly acceptable back then but remember what rents and house prices were in the late 70's or 80's!

 

 

* I'm sure I was a sex machine...but time dims the truth!! :)  :)

Time dims many things but why should we doubt your fannymagnetism ..... I bet you were a right goer!  ;)

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I did not punt in the 70's but the paid sex scene had a terrible reputation. It seemed to be you paid your money, you came and you went. No hanging about or attempts to prolong the session allowed. When I was in Soho the working girls on the street were aggressive. But this is all hearsay as I was too broke and nervous to try

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   and round two   only happened in saturday afternoon wrestling on TV   :(

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   and round two   only happened in saturday afternoon wrestling on TV   :(

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One of my all-time worst experiences was in a massage parlour in Chalk Farm. When I expressed an interest in examining the girl's botty, I was told, "This isn't a gay place, you know." Period? Doubt it was earlier than 1980.

 

And, now I come to think of it, in those days it wasn't just anal, but bum-play generally that was hard to find. One of the relatively few occasions when I walked was when I turned up at some flat (in the rather random way one tended to do in those days) and the lady told me that no, she wasn't willing to be rimmed. Can't quite remember the details of how I was that day, as I'm not an anal-obsessive in my punting, but that day I'd got it into my little head that I just had to have a lick and sniff round a botty. No doing. Here, too, we're talking about over thirty years ago.

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I started punting in the late 1980's and used to frequent a massage parlour on Summer Row in Birmingham, Gemini Suite. It's log since closed down as the area was "gentrified". The reputation of the industry and my own naivety made me turn down the offer of a drink! I'd read horror stories of guys being charged £500 for a bottle of fizzy wine in some unscrupulous joint.

 

I knew the parlour was these as they advertised in the local paper. I also used to buy the Sunday/Daily Sport for their small ads. Nowadays I would never even think about finding a SP anywhere other than on-line.

 

The girls all wore what can only be described as a beautician's uniform which buttoned up the front with press studs. The massage was pretty crap and the sex not much better. I always had a feeling of being ripped off. These days I think the internet and forums like this have driven through a better punting experience.

 

 

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I believe Vauxhall Gardens was the place to go. Back in the 1710s:

 

"We went to Spring Gardens where we picked up two women and carried them into the arbour and ate some cold veal and about 10 o’clock we carried them to the bagnio, where we bathed and lay with them all night and I roger’d mine twice and slept pretty well, but neglected my prayers"

 

I started punting in parlours the early 1990s - pre the first EE invasion, generally a lot of places were really tacky and cold. My first experience - with a very attractive and well dressed black girl in her early 30s, in a warm and clean house, was very much the exception for all those things - even if the service itself was mediocre. A couple of years I visited my first EE parlour - natalies/natalys in east london - while the venue varied in quality as it moved around, the girls were generally a lot more attractive, younger, and wonder of wonders actually kissed - and having sex felt more like having sex with a girlfriend.  In general - aside from standouts like Aussie Sandy and Sunni Tara - very few of the places made an effort to keep the parlour comfortable, if they lucked out in renting a reasonable house it was okay, but there were also plenty of places that were very run down.

 

The late 90s was a kind of heydey, as the first EE wave kicked in - and the then affordability - by todays standards - of London's rents meaning that most of the flats they were renting were actually pretty decent, plus punternet had kicked off, so it was much easier to find good girls/agencies (I remember standouts like Yana of FdlC, and the family run Academy Girls).

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I remember when the girls no longer accepted groats. It was farthings or sling your hook!

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I go back before the advent of AIDs (to mid 70s) and BB was a pretty normal service - I recall a lovely blonde Scottish girl in Soho who apologised for stopping BB now that she had had a baby (off work while pregnant) whom she brought to show me.

 

Anal was around - I recall in Brum being offered sex, oral and anal for £20 before I had ever experienced it before.

 

I found ladies who were as friendly and as accommodating as now although somehow drop-dead gorgeous women were rather rarer to say the least.

 

Rare to meet a foreign lady other than those who had immigrated from the West Indies.

 

Oh those contact magazines - takes me back. The first one I ever saw was in the hand of a 13 year old boy ...

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First lady I saw was in Earls Court in 1979 having plucked up courage after seeing phone numbers in a telephone box.

I took a have it a way day from Kent with the aim of visiting a lady. Had been in London the week before and phoned a few numbers for research purposes.

After that I noticed adverts in shop windows,particularly in Soho and soon found the walk ups I that area.

Then the best way I found was ads in newspapers especially when visiting cities around the country.

Then it was The Sports small ads,Punternet I discovered about 1999,websites like wysg and thedonkeywork and more recently AW and Google to find escorts own websites.

Everything moves on but used to like researching ads in local papers the best.the first thing I would do in visiting a new town would be to buy the local evening paper.I used to keep these in garage with old newspapers to go out with the rubbish but somehow these survived for some time!All good fun!

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When did the explosion of Chinese women happen, I am very it did but not sure when it did

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So the influx of foreign ladies, the Internet and in particular its reviewing forums and mobile phones have made this a golden era for punters! I wonder did porn have an effect also, with more services being expected and offered and the GFE is one hell of a fantastic concept!

Punting might have been a whiffier experience in the past also with no baby wipes! <_<

Also the lack of anal providers may have been down to much poorer quality lubricants!

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The main changes since I first indulged in the early 1990s are, are 'shaven havens' (muffs were normal), kissing being standard (almost never then), owo (sometimes available then), and the nationalities of the WGs.  And it was pre internet so you relied on walking past a parlour, the yellow pages in some places, or the local papers.

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