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How To Tell If The Sex Worker Is Doing It Agasint Her Own Will?

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I accept that lot of sex workers on here is doing it with her own will. But I'm sure there lot of them doing it agasint their own will, so when you see a sex worker, what sign to look out for that she being forced to do it?

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You're certainly going to make a name for yourself here.  You've been a member just over a week.  You've started one controversial thread about why don't WGs just get themselves a rich boyfriend so they don't have to work.  Now you've started this one, which is probably going to provoke quite a response too.

 

Why don't you just take a bit of time to read back through old threads, maybe use the search function too.  You could learn a lot just from doing that

 

PS: Have you even actually visited an escort yet? 

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I accept that lot of sex workers on here is doing it with her own will. But I'm sure there lot of them doing it agasint their own will, so when you see a sex worker, what sign to look out for that she being forced to do it?

 

Perhaps it would make a better topic if you listed what criteria you use to filter out those who do not work of their own choice?

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I accept that lot of sex workers on here is doing it with her own will. But I'm sure there lot of them doing it agasint their own will, so when you see a sex worker, what sign to look out for that she being forced to do it?

I have no idea how many women are being forced against their wills to be WGs, and neither do the authorities, they use guesses. Evidence by convictions doesnt show its a lot, but that its some. Now even one forced woman is one too many and i very much welcome the governments decision to increase sentences to traffickers to life which in my view all traffickers should get.

 

Unless a woman tells me she is being forced which thankfully has never happened to me or i feel she is by her negative body language or perhaps she is crying all i have is my best judgement to go on. There might not be any outward sign, that will of course depend on the individual woman.

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Never met a WG who was remotely doing it against her free-will.

 

BUT

 

I dont use "agencies", "parlours" or other situations where you may find this.

 

Just stick to latel twenties or above indies and you will have not need to consider this.

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As has been mentioned, unless you are actually told - which is highly unlikely to happen - it is impossible to know for certain. However I feel there are some things a punter can do to be as certain as possible they aren't visiting a wg forced into working.

What I try to do is - Check profiles carefully, are there several from the same area which look like they've been written by the same person? When communicating by email and then telephone call, how is the response of the wg? If you speak on the phone beforehand, does it sound like the same person when you actually meet? Check reviews on sites such as this, check feedback both of the wg, and the feedback she leaves people, not only for how good she is, but does the syntax in her replies seem similar to that in your communication with her?

Before I meet a wg for the first time there are generally at least a couple of emails back and forth and usually a phone call. If I detect something doesn't seem right then I wouldn't go ahead with the booking (not happened yet...). Same when we meet up - If I detected even a hint in a wg's attitudue or body language that she was anything less than 100% happy to be spending time in my company then it would be punt over before it even began. If I was genuinely concerned something really sinister was going on I think, no I'm sure - I'd report it - but like I said it hasn't happened so far.

It's all down to personal judgement / opinion, and even if the profiles were written by someone else it doesn't necessarily mean foul play - and we can all have an off day when we appear down in the dumps and would rather be elsewhere.

In all honesty I'd bet my life savings (all £1.73 of them) that all of the wg's I've seen are working not only of their own free will, but for themselves and themselves alone. In fact with 3 of them I'm 100% certain that is the case.

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   Things to look out for ,

 

   If the girl is locked into the flat / room while a pimp brings clients in off the street .

 

   If you pay the pimp not the girl and you don't get to see the girl before payment .

 

   She doesn't / can't speak much .

 

   Enough said . 

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As has been mentioned, unless you are actually told - which is highly unlikely to happen - it is impossible to know for certain. However I feel there are some things a punter can do to be as certain as possible they aren't visiting a wg forced into working.

What I try to do is - Check profiles carefully, are there several from the same area which look like they've been written by the same person? When communicating by email and then telephone call, how is the response of the wg? If you speak on the phone beforehand, does it sound like the same person when you actually meet? Check reviews on sites such as this, check feedback both of the wg, and the feedback she leaves people, not only for how good she is, but does the syntax in her replies seem similar to that in your communication with her?

Before I meet a wg for the first time there are generally at least a couple of emails back and forth and usually a phone call. If I detect something doesn't seem right then I wouldn't go ahead with the booking (not happened yet...). Same when we meet up - If I detected even a hint in a wg's attitudue or body language that she was anything less than 100% happy to be spending time in my company then it would be punt over before it even began. If I was genuinely concerned something really sinister was going on I think, no I'm sure - I'd report it - but like I said it hasn't happened so far.

It's all down to personal judgement / opinion, and even if the profiles were written by someone else it doesn't necessarily mean foul play - and we can all have an off day when we appear down in the dumps and would rather be elsewhere.

In all honesty I'd bet my life savings (all £1.73 of them) that all of the wg's I've seen are working not only of their own free will, but for themselves and themselves alone. In fact with 3 of them I'm 100% certain that is the case.

Very good balanced post. IMO you make a crucial point about things not necassarily meaning foul play. The fact is most punters couldnt know if most WGs were being coerced as they simply havent the insight to know. As you say and i also said it comes down to personal judgement.

 

Some WGs choose to give a pimp an agreed cut of their fees usually in exchange for them providing the premises and/or getting them the punters in through advertising them. I am convinced now that this is the case as well with some EE WG profiles on A/W where the WGs are advertising as Indies. Thats not to say they are being forced though although i imagine some are sadly.

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Can't believe I am reading this. Girl locked in flat?  Pay a pimp!

 

Where are you going to punt? How are you choosing?

 

There are plenty of classy women round here, in swanky flats, that can't be messed about by any pimp.

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Can't believe I am reading this. Girl locked in flat?  Pay a pimp!

 

Where are you going to punt? How are you choosing?

 

There are plenty of classy women round here, in swanky flats, that can't be messed about by any pimp.

Worldpunter, who made the comment, is an experienced man of the world, with, I suspect, his tongue firmly in his cheek when writing this post.

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You're certainly going to make a name for yourself here.  You've been a member just over a week.  You've started one controversial thread about why don't WGs just get themselves a rich boyfriend so they don't have to work.  Now you've started this one, which is probably going to provoke quite a response too.

 

Why don't you just take a bit of time to read back through old threads, maybe use the search function too.  You could learn a lot just from doing that

 

PS: Have you even actually visited an escort yet? 

 

There used to be a poster here way back that always jumped on Newbies this way Bean, his name escapes me now but I know it started with a K and he drove me nuts with it, mainly because he scared lot's of new posters off with it.  It's a viable question and one I hope that all punters are asking themselves at least at the beginning of their punting.

 

There are things you can look for.  On AW if there are lots of profiles with the same spelling mistakes and similar profiles chances are the same person is putting those profiles up. 

 

Punters have to do the same thing as a girl does and that is to go with their gut feeling, if something doesn't feel right then is probably isn't so use the big brain not the little one and walk.

 

Check the forums thoroughly, often there are warning out there about girls that could be being pimped/coerced  or scamming.

 

As for the girl themselves I have to say unless she actually comes out with it and tells you it's happening 'which is unlikely', you probably won't be able to tell.  I met two beautiful Russian women once that had been rescued from a dreadful pimp ring.  Both when in the room with just women looked really downtrodden, but the moment a man walked into the room they instantly had dazzling smiles, almost like they were conditioned to do it.

 

Do your research and look for women that have their own well designed websites and women that are advertising here as well as AW, that might help.

 

Welcome by the way.

 

H x

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Worldpunter, who made the comment, is an experienced man of the world, with, I suspect, his tongue firmly in his cheek when writing this post.

 

I will say that good ol' Dude not only crawled out of the woodwork but he also seems to draw out others with his bizarre thread topics.  Smiths is a good guy and actually takes his queries seriously, as though they deserve serious answers, but WP brings sense and sensibility to every thread on which he posts.  Unclefoxpeter has me worried but I am really dreading the reemergence of BadMaash (I assume BadBangers is a mate of his) here.  It may be time to start selling popcorn!  :lol:

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There used to be a poster here way back that always jumped on Newbies this way Bean, his name escapes me now but I know it started with a K and he drove me nuts with it, mainly because he scared lot's of new posters off with it.  It's a viable question and one I hope that all punters are asking themselves at least at the beginning of their punting.

 

There are things you can look for.  On AW if there are lots of profiles with the same spelling mistakes and similar profiles chances are the same person is putting those profiles up. 

 

Punters have to do the same thing as a girl does and that is to go with their gut feeling, if something doesn't feel right then is probably isn't so use the big brain not the little one and walk.

 

Check the forums thoroughly, often there are warning out there about girls that could be being pimped/coerced  or scamming.

 

As for the girl themselves I have to say unless she actually comes out with it and tells you it's happening 'which is unlikely', you probably won't be able to tell.  I met two beautiful Russian women once that had been rescued from a dreadful pimp ring.  Both when in the room with just women looked really downtrodden, but the moment a man walked into the room they instantly had dazzling smiles, almost like they were conditioned to do it.

 

Do your research and look for women that have their own well designed websites and women that are advertising here as well as AW, that might help.

 

Welcome by the way.

 

H x

 

Hannah, tell me it ain't so!  This is light entertainment - I'll bet you voted for Susannah and helped get Patrick booted off Strictly last week! :P

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Thank u for anwsers and I have seen some wg in soho and clearly it seem to me that tey are working in their own will. But the problem is I keep hearing from the media, government and other people saying there load of women that are force into it and yet I not seen it. That why I'm trying to be careful not to bump into one.

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You're certainly going to make a name for yourself here.  You've been a member just over a week.  You've started one controversial thread about why don't WGs just get themselves a rich boyfriend so they don't have to work.  Now you've started this one, which is probably going to provoke quite a response too.

 

Why don't you just take a bit of time to read back through old threads, maybe use the search function too.  You could learn a lot just from doing that

 

PS: Have you even actually visited an escort yet? 

I see nothing at all wrong with this thread, the OPs question is a very valid one and subsequent replies might help us all and especially newbie punters who may read the thread, on the other hand it might not, who knows.

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You can pick up on the Tells that people give off. Learn about Tells then you will be able to notice them because they cannot be hidden.

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I see nothing at all wrong with this thread, the OPs question is a very valid one and subsequent replies might help us all and especially newbie punters who may read the thread, on the other hand it might not, who knows.

Threads started by new posters might be trolling or mischief making, or they might not. If it's a subject worth discussing I don't really think it matters anyway. Sometimes information might be posted which others find useful (or entertaining!) even if the op is on the wind-up...

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There used to be a poster here way back that always jumped on Newbies this way Bean

 

Sorry Holly but I don't know what you mean by "jumping on"?  The guy came in for quite a bit of flak in the other thread he started.  Given that he's so new here I was trying to be helpful as he's only just starting out.  Personally I also think it's useful advice to any new member to read back through old threads.  I did both here and on another forum and I learnt a lot from it.

 

That said OP, you're getting some useful advice here and I hope you find it helpful

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I'm glad that I didnt decide to see an Escort and jump in my Car straight away like a plonker. I actually sat and thought about it for over a month. I read loads of bloggs written by Escorts and read stuff they've written on here. You can tell by the Women that post on here that it is true and that they are in control of their lives and are happy well balanced people and hard Grafters!

 

I can do without short sharp stabbs of reality thankyou very much.I've had too many of those! 

 

If I just went and seen one on the spurr of the moment I would probably have come away from the experience feeling like a scummy Man and would probably have felt compelled to confess to my Mrs. It's always best to do your Homework and research the scene instead of just Diving in. It is an Underworld of sorts after all and as the old adage goes Research yeilds Results.

 

Funny thing I did before my first punt and that was I went and had a Tarot reading. The jist of the reading was this There has been something on your mind for some time dont hesitate as you will be rewarded from another direction! So I went to the punt got my Jollies off and as I left and was walking down the street my Mobile Phone rang and guess what ? The long dreamed of Job that I applied for four weeks previously were on the line asking me when I could start. I couldnt believe it and had to sit down for a minute. Probably coincidence I know.

 

I think that I when the need arises I will only see an Independant Lady thats in her prime who knows who she is and knows what she wants then there is little risk of finding myself in a scenario where the woman is doing it against her will.

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If they are anything less than happy and enthusiastic, ask. Particularly if you haven't booked with a reputable agency.

 

If you have sex with a woman who is forced, you're pretty much a rapist. Maybe not in the eyes of the law, but, at least in my eyes you are. Do you want to take the risk? I don't.

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Punters have to do the same thing as a girl does and that is to go with their gut feeling, if something doesn't feel right then is probably isn't so use the big brain not the little one and walk.

 

Welcome by the way.

 

H x

 

Sorry Holly can't resist it. I'm utterly convinced the penis has a bigger brain than the personality ie the person. The penis is connected to all the senses, even the subconcious and it decides when to become erect, the personality has no say in the matter so effectively it decides who to fuck and when. So guys try to use that little part of you brain where you sit in partial control of your body and brain. I think you can tell a lot from the smile you get from an escort and from her eyes. Does she look pleased to see you? Is she proactive or do you have to initiate everything? 

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If they are anything less than happy and enthusiastic, ask. Particularly if you haven't booked with a reputable agency.

 

If you have sex with a woman who is forced, you're pretty much a rapist. Maybe not in the eyes of the law, but, at least in my eyes you are. Do you want to take the risk? I don't.

 

In the eyes of the law it is a crime.  Section 53A of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 creates the offence of "paying for sexual services of a prostitute subjected to force etc".  This is a strict liability offence, which means punters can be prosecuted even if they didn’t know the prostitute was forced.

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Agree - I think you can probably tell if she is enjoying her job relatively easy (i.e. it's not very easy to fake this for long if you're being forced to work).  If she comes across as happy, welcoming, enthusiastic, etc. - I would think the likelihood of her being forced to work is pretty low.  I also agree the probability is likely much lower with indies (and ladies who have a track record).

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Sorry Holly but I don't know what you mean by "jumping on"?  The guy came in for quite a bit of flak in the other thread he started.  Given that he's so new here I was trying to be helpful as he's only just starting out.  Personally I also think it's useful advice to any new member to read back through old threads.  I did both here and on another forum and I learnt a lot from it.

 

That said OP, you're getting some useful advice here and I hope you find it helpful

 

Sorry Bean didn't mean to infer it's something that's the norm for you like it was for the other guy.  Often newbies don't even realise they can use the search facility.  The other guy used to greet all newcomers with things like.... "lazy ****** use the search" or "here we go again boring questions".  Many guys mailed me and said they weren't posting because of it, also if they stay it puts them on the back foot and defensive when they do post.

 

Hannah, tell me it ain't so!  This is light entertainment - I'll bet you voted for Susannah and helped get Patrick booted off Strictly last week! :P

 

Now Tigs my lovely can you really see me watching Strictly??????? :P

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Sorry Bean didn't mean to infer it's something that's the norm for you like it was for the other guy.  Often newbies don't even realise they can use the search facility.  The other guy used to greet all newcomers with things like.... "lazy ****** use the search" or "here we go again boring questions".  Many guys mailed me and said they weren't posting because of it, also if they stay it puts them on the back foot and defensive when they do post.

 

 

Now Tigs my lovely can you really see me watching Strictly??????? :P

 

:D   ABS (anyone but Susannah).

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