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The Introduction Of The Gfe Experience

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When punting in the past I found I was limited in what I could do.  Kissing and hugging were strictly off limits.  The GFE was introduced into the industry and punters can do things like kissing and hugging and have the same kind of sex they would have with a partner hence the term GFE.  I am curious as to when did the GFE become commonplace in the industry?  Why did service providers decide to allow things such as kissing which had previously not been allowed?  Was the GFE introduced gradually throughout the industry or was it quickly taken by service providers throughout the country? 

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When punting in the past I found I was limited in what I could do.  Kissing and hugging were strictly off limits.  The GFE was introduced into the industry and punters can do things like kissing and hugging and have the same kind of sex they would have with a partner hence the term GFE.  I am curious as to when did the GFE become commonplace in the industry?  Why did service providers decide to allow things such as kissing which had previously not been allowed?  Was the GFE introduced gradually throughout the industry or was it quickly taken by service providers throughout the country? 

In my experiences it was introduced by many EE WGs from the mid 90s, previously most Brit WGs didnt offer any kissing as that was for their partners as they used to tell me. Along with this offering of more extensive services they also charged lower rates in general. It wasnt long before Brit WGs in my area followed suit.

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   The internet opened the window to punting like nothing else as ever done before or since . As the competition grew among wg , services had to improve to stay in business .  The GFE  started to become available along with A  around the time smiths has stated . Guys starting on their punting adventures today have never had it so good with choice and security .

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I knew nothing of any difference between what Eastern european's and the british born ladies offered. As far as I was concerned I was going to be offering the same things I did in my personal life, just with a bit more oommpf I'm being paid for this so will be on best behaviour/performance. It never occured to me that I'd not kiss, quite the contrary it seemed to be the most natural thing to do.

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I knew nothing of any difference between what Eastern european's and the british born ladies offered. As far as I was concerned I was going to be offering the same things I did in my personal life, just with a bit more oommpf I'm being paid for this so will be on best behaviour/performance. It never occured to me that I'd not kiss, quite the contrary it seemed to be the most natural thing to do.

Strawberry, I am sure that you do what comes natural and as a result provide a good service. But I think Smiths is right on this occasion.

 

When my opportunities for affairs came to an end about 10 years ago, my first punts were with British ladies and while some were passionate,  Scottish and Irish girls  come to mind, most were cold and mechanical.

 

As time went on there was more choice available through certain sites  and there was an influx of passionate Polish, Hungarian and other EE girls and the GFE became more widely available. Although I personally prefer the PSE.

 

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davidgood

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I knew nothing of any difference between what Eastern european's and the british born ladies offered. As far as I was concerned I was going to be offering the same things I did in my personal life, just with a bit more oommpf I'm being paid for this so will be on best behaviour/performance. It never occured to me that I'd not kiss, quite the contrary it seemed to be the most natural thing to do.

Same here strawberry. I remember sitting in the parlour on my first ever working day before it opened and the lady going through a checklist of sexual stuff and asking do you kiss…err yes, do you do oral..err yes, without a condom..err yes, do you do anal..err yes, you can charge extra..oh cool, do you like them to lick your fanny…err yes and so on. Never even occurred to me that some girls withhold certain stuff when its being paid for. It was all just normal to me and as I did it in my personal life it didn't cross my mind not to offer it when I started working. 

 

When I moved from that agency onto an outcall agency I went through the same old checklist of services. I remember when certain guys phoned asking for a lady who offered anal the manager asked us who offered it and I put my hand up and said me. I was sitting in a room with around 15 other girls and the filthy looks I received from them were unbelievable. I couldn't understand it. Later the manageress told me to ignore them and that  a few other girls do offer that service but it was kept secret from the majority of the girls as it was seen as being slutty. So…they didn't put their hand up and I did..every time, so I got the booking every time lol. 

 

I think a lot of that went on back then, girls wouldn't admit in front of others that they did certain stuff but once in the bedroom with a regular then it was on offer. 

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As said above did the internet help make a difference - previous to this when it classified in local newspapers, magazines, post card on newsagents there was limited space to state what was on offer...

 

With the internet it allowed space what to offer...so if it became clear who was offering more than others did those advertising less catch up....who knows

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I knew nothing of any difference between what Eastern european's and the british born ladies offered. As far as I was concerned I was going to be offering the same things I did in my personal life, just with a bit more oommpf I'm being paid for this so will be on best behaviour/performance. It never occured to me that I'd not kiss, quite the contrary it seemed to be the most natural thing to do.

A shame Brit WGs of the 80s into the mid-90s didnt think the same in my experiences.

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Strawberry, I am sure that you do what comes natural and as a result provide a good service. But I think Smiths is right on this occasion.

 

When my opportunities for affairs came to an end about 10 years ago, my first punts were with British ladies and while some were passionate,  Scottish and Irish girls  come to mind, most were cold and mechanical.

 

As time went on there was more choice available through certain sites  and there was an influx of passionate Polish, Hungarian and other EE girls and the GFE became more widely available. Although I personally prefer the PSE.

 

Regards,

 

davidgood

 

I'm not going to doubt you lovely because I know you, but my experience of particularly Irish ladies are that they can be extremely passionate.  Perhaps you just haven't met the right ones... 

 

Hugs H x

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   The internet opened the window to punting like nothing else as ever done before or since . As the competition grew among wg , services had to improve to stay in business .  The GFE  started to become available along with A  around the time smiths has stated . Guys starting on their punting adventures today have never had it so good with choice and security .

 

I started my punting adventures only a few years ago, very much within the timeframe of the internet, so have only engaged with the whole experience in that way. Seems like a good point that the GFE has developed through the market competition that the internet has provided. To expand the point a bit, this has gone hand in hand with a kind of globalisation within the sex industry ( so now you get girls from literally every part of the planet offering their services in London), but also with a much more open attitude to sex in general (which can be attributed at least in part to the free accessibility of porn online), maybe particularly among young women. If an academic / researcher was brave enough to take it on without bias they could have a field day : everything is changing so fast.  

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Although i had the cold experiences described above, i also had great ones too and it would seem from reading this and previous threads that this was exception to the norm.

I shall still maintain that the golden age of punting (for me anyway) was from the mid nineties to the mid naughties :-P

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I'm not going to doubt you lovely because I know you, but my experience of particularly Irish ladies are that they can be extremely passionate.  Perhaps you just haven't met the right ones... 

 

Hugs H x

Hi Holly,

 

I maybe did make things as clear as they should be. What I was trying to saying was that it was a Scottish lady and an Irish lady who I found more passionate than other British or maybe I should have said English girls. 

 

Of course that was a few years ago and I had not met someone like you. :)

 

Have a good Christmas and New Year.

 

Regards,

 

David x

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Hi Holly,

 

I maybe did make things as clear as they should be. What I was trying to saying was that it was a Scottish lady and an Irish lady who I found more passionate than other British or maybe I should have said English girls. 

 

Of course that was a few years ago and I had not met someone like you. :)

 

Have a good Christmas and New Year.

 

Regards,

 

David x

 

Awwwe thank you.  Have a super Christmas xxx

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because a woman can earn more money on top of the ordinary service :)

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This may annoy the local ladies, but in my opinion, it was the Eastern European ladies that introduced the GFE concept to the industry.

From 97 to 2000 I saw local ladies. No GFE or whatsoever. Don't touch me, lie down, what?, no kissing, are you done yet ?

 

Then, from 2000s I saw EE ladies only. It was only 5 years ago I started seeing local ladies. 

 

When it comes to GFE, my best experiences are still with EE ladies. 

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My first encounter of the GFE was a Las Vegas escort @ $400 for 2 hours around the year 2001, pre-booked before I left the UK on the internet. It wouldn't surprise me if other WG's followed the business model around that time. I'm sure the EE's WG's would have impacted the price more than the services provided as even today, there a SP's that are clear on their do's and don'ts despite the competition out there.

 

My own experience is to find a service that I like and I feel offers VFM. The GFE isn't for everyone, so this is why I advocate establishing a regular WG where possible.

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This may annoy the local ladies, but in my opinion, it was the Eastern European ladies that introduced the GFE concept to the industry.

From 97 to 2000 I saw local ladies. No GFE or whatsoever. Don't touch me, lie down, what?, no kissing, are you done yet ?

 

Then, from 2000s I saw EE ladies only. It was only 5 years ago I started seeing local ladies. 

 

When it comes to GFE, my best experiences are still with EE ladies. 

Indeed, thats what i posted in post 2 above. Its a fact that it was EE WGs that first started to offer kissing in my experiences.

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This may annoy the local ladies, but in my opinion, it was the Eastern European ladies that introduced the GFE concept to the industry.

From 97 to 2000 I saw local ladies. No GFE or whatsoever. Don't touch me, lie down, what?, no kissing, are you done yet ?

 

Then, from 2000s I saw EE ladies only. It was only 5 years ago I started seeing local ladies. 

 

When it comes to GFE, my best experiences are still with EE ladies. 

 

Best and worst. Don't know why.

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I knew nothing of any difference between what Eastern european's and the british born ladies offered. As far as I was concerned I was going to be offering the same things I did in my personal life, just with a bit more oommpf I'm being paid for this so will be on best behaviour/performance. It never occured to me that I'd not kiss, quite the contrary it seemed to be the most natural thing to do.

 

Thanks, Strawberry. What we need, though, from you and Chloe is acually a very precise indication of when you started.

I returned to punting in the UK bigtime about twelve years ago, after a gap (more or less) of fifteen years. I was astonished at the change that had taken place (for the better). I'd be curious to know exactly when it started - and how.

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Thanks, Strawberry. What we need, though, from you and Chloe is acually a very precise indication of when you started.

I returned to punting in the UK bigtime about twelve years ago, after a gap (more or less) of fifteen years. I was astonished at the change that had taken place (for the better). I'd be curious to know exactly when it started - and how.

Definitely from the mid-90s onwards Mr Bloom in London at least by many EE WGs offering kissing and also undercutting Brit WGs.

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When I started punting (approx. 20 years ago) kissing, as well as OWO was strictly off limits unless the girl knew you well, after say at least 10 visits. I noticed a change in the past 12 years or so when attitudes seemed to change. Now, when seeing a girl for the first time, I always ask if kissing and OWO are available and have never been refused. I have noticed however that, on some girls' profiles, they do state that kissing and OWO are not available. I think that they are in the minority and wonder if they get much business. I can understand why some girls do not like to give OWO but, to my mind, kissing is absolutely essential.

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I dont know what the catalyst was or the exact time period, but with the comments regarding the evolution of the gfe. I remember kissing was such a sacrosanct activity. Either wg's would not do it and those who did, did so unintentionally i.e. Usually with a regular and it wasnt part of the service, guess she was under my spell???? I remember on enounter years and years ago where a wg kissed me, and you could see her visably feeling guilty that she cheated on her boyfriend, sounds strange but thats what she told me. Roll on a few years and its all change, theyre snogging your face off as you walk through the door!

Its the same thing with owo.....evolution hey

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I don't think EE girls can be the entire reason, as the same thing started to happen in the US. I think it's down to the Internet and reviews.

 

I think the GFE can be a bit confusing for some punters, though. There are blurred lines where there didn't used to be. And some punters, when they run into the boundaries of what is real, get their feelings hurt.

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I don't think EE girls can be the entire reason, as the same thing started to happen in the US. I think it's down to the Internet and reviews.

 

I think the GFE can be a bit confusing for some punters, though. There are blurred lines where there didn't used to be. And some punters, when they run into the boundaries of what is real, get their feelings hurt.

No idea about the US but kissing only became a service offered by most WGs with the arrival of EE WGs in London from the mid-90s onwards, i recall it vividly. Some Brit WGs that had previously told me kissing was strictly for their partners and not on offer started to offer it. Prices also went down with many of these EE WGs also offering more extensive services than i had ever experienced before, rimming on ocassion for example. It was a great time for me punting wise.

 

I agree about the GFE, it can be confusing as i have read on here over the years for some punters to get thats its all part of a WGs service, some are so good at it that some punters thought it was real. In my early punting days in the 80s up to the mid-90s my punting was a generally colder experience, AIDS was going to wipe us all out was the backdrop to my early days though so people were seriously panicking which was understandable of course.

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No idea about the US but kissing only became a service offered by most WGs with the arrival of EE WGs in London from the mid-90s onwards, i recall it vividly. Some Brit WGs that had previously told me kissing was strictly for their partners and not on offer started to offer it. Prices also went down with many of these EE WGs also offering more extensive services than i had ever experienced before, rimming on ocassion for example. It was a great time for me punting wise.

 

I agree about the GFE, it can be confusing as i have read on here over the years for some punters to get thats its all part of a WGs service, some are so good at it that some punters thought it was real. In my early punting days in the 80s up to the mid-90s my punting was a generally colder experience, AIDS was going to wipe us all out was the backdrop to my early days though so people were seriously panicking which was understandable of course.

 

Up until my first EE experience, I had already tried more than 20 local ladies. Even hugging was not allowed. Only one English lady said she would kiss "A FEW TIMES" if I paid £90 on top of the £70 for 30 minutes. I just walked away as it was outright insane. 

 

I still remember my first EE experience. That was at good old Viva. She simply ate me for 40 minutes for £70.

 

I cannot seem to understand how a punter can mix the game with reality. Any decent GFE punt costs >£100/hr these days. Even if one is rich, this is hardly pocket change for anyone. 

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